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=Additional Screenshots=
[[Image:......reid.jpg|thumb|left|400px|Reid with his [[Smith & Wesson Model 65|S&W Model 65]] holstered strangely.]]
[[Image:.....screencap.jpg|thumb|none|200px|Production image of Morgan ([[Shemar Moore]]) with his Glock ]]
[[Image:Agent_morgan.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Morgan with his Glock 17 while talking to a suspect.]]
[[Image:Hotchner.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Hotchner engages a murder suspect.]]
[[Image:CM-Reid-G17.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Spencer Reid wields a Glock 17 while protecting Lila Archer ([[Amber Heard]]) in Season 1's  "Somebody's Watching".]]
[[Image:Bank_guard.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A bank guard enters a brief standoff with a bank robber before surrendering weapon.]]
=Discussion=
==Joe Mantegna==
==Joe Mantegna==
He is a gunsite graduate and pro gun actor. Hell of a shooter too.--[[User:James3|James3]] 21:11, 7 April 2011 (CDT)
He is a gunsite graduate and pro gun actor. Hell of a shooter too.--[[User:James3|James3]] 21:11, 7 April 2011 (CDT)
===found out===
Joe Mantegna is a big second ammendment supporter, and loves shooting sports. He particularly likes shotguns and has stated distaste for hypocricy in hollywood and says that it makes him sick an actor will use guns in movies to boost career then preach on how bad they are. Think its cool, and he definitey knows how to use that TRP.




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:- Ah. Well, I don't think there was any real explanation in-show for the change, at least not that I've seen yet. Guess that's just another reason to watch the show more, heh. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 02:49, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
:- Ah. Well, I don't think there was any real explanation in-show for the change, at least not that I've seen yet. Guess that's just another reason to watch the show more, heh. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 02:49, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
:: Well, there's no official explanation that I can find that explains the change. If it is meant to be a nod to Lambs and the like (Julianne Moore's Sterling uses an almost identical gun in the alternate ending of ''Hannibal''), that's cool, and probably likely. Of course Matthew Gray Gubler himself might prefer the revolver, be it personally or even for his character. I always found revolvers much simpler and practical than semiautos in many cases, and Gubler/Reid might think the same way. I also notice that the more 'unique' characters (Reid, Rossi/Mantegna, and Gideon/Patinkin) all have their own unique guns than the rest of the team's Glocks (Rossi with the Springfield TRP 1911, Gideon with the P226 and Reid with the Model 65) but they all (mostly) correlate to actual-issue FBI weapons, albeit a bit more distantly in Reid's case. Also a shoutout to the user who got the 3-inch Model 65 image. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 16:05, 21 July 2011 (CDT)


==Springfield==
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Its seems to be a larger bore. But at .40 v 9mm it is hard to tell. I would call it a Glock 22 but the arguement rages through IMFDB.--[[Special:Contributions/2.24.85.170|2.24.85.170]] 14:21, 23 April 2011 (CDT)
Its seems to be a larger bore. But at .40 v 9mm it is hard to tell. I would call it a Glock 22 but the arguement rages through IMFDB.--[[Special:Contributions/2.24.85.170|2.24.85.170]] 14:21, 23 April 2011 (CDT)
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==Compact 1911 Variant==
==Compact 1911 Variant==
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:- Certainly could be a blue-steel version of that Performance Center variant. I do remember the cuts on the bottom being prominent in some scenes. Still, I think we should try to get other screencaps/pictures before changing it to be sure. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 13:48, 13 July 2011 (CDT)
:- Certainly could be a blue-steel version of that Performance Center variant. I do remember the cuts on the bottom being prominent in some scenes. Still, I think we should try to get other screencaps/pictures before changing it to be sure. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 13:48, 13 July 2011 (CDT)
==found out==
Joe Mantegna is a big second ammendment supporter, and loves shooting sports. He particularly likes shotguns and has stated distaste for hypocricy in hollywood and says that it makes him sick an actor will use guns in movies to boost career then preach on how bad they are. Think its cool, and he definitey knows how to use that TRP.


==Criminal Minds:Suspect Behavior==
==Criminal Minds:Suspect Behavior==
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I don't know how to set up a new page, but Beau Garrett and Janeane Garofalo both use Glock 17's, along with several FBI agents. Matt Ryan wields a SW99 and Michael Kelly has an earlier model S&W auto, possibly a 5946. Not sure about Forest Whitaker's sidearm. Hope this helps.[[User:mmarlon brando]]
I don't know how to set up a new page, but Beau Garrett and Janeane Garofalo both use Glock 17's, along with several FBI agents. Matt Ryan wields a SW99 and Michael Kelly has an earlier model S&W auto, possibly a 5946. Not sure about Forest Whitaker's sidearm. Hope this helps.[[User:mmarlon brando]]


==Ben saves the day again!==


==Additional Screenshots==
Appreciate getting some newer (read:better) screenshots and some new ones, I've been having a hard time getting some myself, though I think a few aren't too bad. ;b Also, I hope it's ok that I've re-arranged this page and moved another couple of images over here. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 16:05, 21 July 2011 (CDT)
[[Image:.....screencap.jpg|thumb|none|200px|Production image of Morgan ([[Shemar Moore]]) with his Glock ]]
[[Image:Agent_morgan.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Morgan with his Glock 17 while talking to a suspect.]]
 
[[Image:Hotchner.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Hotchner engages a murder suspect.]]
[[Image:CM-Reid-G17.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Spencer Reid wields a Glock 17 while protecting Lila Archer ([[Amber Heard]]) in Season 1's "Somebody's Watching".]]
 
 
[[Image:Bank_guard.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A bank guard enters a brief standoff with a bank robber before surrendering weapon.]]

Revision as of 21:05, 21 July 2011


Additional Screenshots

Reid with his S&W Model 65 holstered strangely.
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Production image of Morgan (Shemar Moore) with his Glock
Morgan with his Glock 17 while talking to a suspect.
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Hotchner engages a murder suspect.
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Spencer Reid wields a Glock 17 while protecting Lila Archer (Amber Heard) in Season 1's "Somebody's Watching".
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A bank guard enters a brief standoff with a bank robber before surrendering weapon.


Discussion

Joe Mantegna

He is a gunsite graduate and pro gun actor. Hell of a shooter too.--James3 21:11, 7 April 2011 (CDT)

found out

Joe Mantegna is a big second ammendment supporter, and loves shooting sports. He particularly likes shotguns and has stated distaste for hypocricy in hollywood and says that it makes him sick an actor will use guns in movies to boost career then preach on how bad they are. Think its cool, and he definitey knows how to use that TRP.


Reid and his revolver. Why?

Why did Reid switch to revolver? Yes the F.B.I. authorized the S&W Model 10 with 3" barrel and the round butt grip configuration in the mid seventies. And in the late eighties authorized the S&W Model 13 with 3" barrel and round butt grip, but Ried would have been a kid in the late eighties See: Silence of the Lambs and Dead Bang. I suppose it might be something of a nod to the old timers and perhaps a clever way to link the show to Silence of the Lambs , but I can't find any info about the switch either in a backstory or actual reality.--Jcordell 12:44, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

- Perhaps he found a revolver easier to use/maintain, who knows. My question is what's wrong with him having a revolver? StanTheMan 01:05, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Nothing is wrong with him having a revolver ( like revolvers personally ), but I doubt that the F.B.I. would authorize him to carry one. But let's not hung up on reality. I'm just wondering if there was a backstory to the switch. Reid is a thinker. A genius. Why would he do this assuming that he did get a waiver to carry a non-authorized handgun. --Jcordell 01:53, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

- Ah. Well, I don't think there was any real explanation in-show for the change, at least not that I've seen yet. Guess that's just another reason to watch the show more, heh. StanTheMan 02:49, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Well, there's no official explanation that I can find that explains the change. If it is meant to be a nod to Lambs and the like (Julianne Moore's Sterling uses an almost identical gun in the alternate ending of Hannibal), that's cool, and probably likely. Of course Matthew Gray Gubler himself might prefer the revolver, be it personally or even for his character. I always found revolvers much simpler and practical than semiautos in many cases, and Gubler/Reid might think the same way. I also notice that the more 'unique' characters (Reid, Rossi/Mantegna, and Gideon/Patinkin) all have their own unique guns than the rest of the team's Glocks (Rossi with the Springfield TRP 1911, Gideon with the P226 and Reid with the Model 65) but they all (mostly) correlate to actual-issue FBI weapons, albeit a bit more distantly in Reid's case. Also a shoutout to the user who got the 3-inch Model 65 image. StanTheMan 16:05, 21 July 2011 (CDT)

Springfield

The FBI uses the Springfield Professional, available only through their custom shop. The TRP is a mass produced model that's cheaper and designed for civilians, it has many of the same features as the professional. They're two completely different weapons but both this page and the page for Numbers make the same mistake of saying the TRP is used by the FBI.

Currently getting some screencaps from footage, should be up later.

Screencap.

CZ75

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Cult leader threatens agent Prentiss with a stainless CZ-75b


CZ75stainless:

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I still say it is a Smith & Wesson single stack pistol, likely a .45. If you look, the slide is different, the grip design is different, the trigger guard curvature is different, and the hammer is different. I'd say it is a 4506 early model with the squared trigger guard. - Gunmaster45

Glock 17

The Glock 17s that you show in the screen grabs are second generation based on the lack of rails. You posted a picture of the 3rd gen(with finger grooves and rail) instead. Something to note. --ManiacallyChallenged 08:53, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Whoa, am I off base. The Glock 17 2nd gen, is actually a Glock 19 second gen. My bad. --ManiacallyChallenged 08:58, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Back again, I guess. The unknown rifle is a Winchester Model 70 in 30.06. --ManiacallyChallenged 09:08, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Usr:K9870 Agent Morgan's glock is the most commonly seen glock on screen and his has the rail for his light attachment.Ill change my rifle, what ones a glock 19?

The police detective picture has a glock 19. I changed it already. --ManiacallyChallenged 22:02, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Glock 17 Duex

I know as a general rule that whenever we see a Glock in a movie, unless proven otherwise, it is assumed to be a 9mm Glock. But I think that it's safe to assume that the BAU team (with the exception of Reid, Gideon, and Rossi) all use Glock 22s. I mean, this show is incredibly accurate as far as how the real life FBI BAU operates, so they would obviously use the same firearms. Plus, the sidearms of the other agents are accurate too. For example, Rossi carries a Springfield Armory TRP, which is what the real life FBI HRT uses as well. Gideon, an older FBI agent, uses a SIG Sauer P226, a weapon that has been previously used by the FBI (indicating that he became an FBI agent during this period). So it's clearly more likely that the agents use Glock 22's. This same statement applies to Agent Hotchner's backup Glock (it's most likely a Glock 27, not a 26). Gunman69

One scene had a militaia leader analyze reid and morgan's guns, he said quote "Glock 17, Tactical, But european, I prefer to carry american hardware." Also, the G22 is similar to a 17 so they probably didn't expect viewers to pick up on it.

Who would care if they do notice I don't think anyone is gonna be like "How the hell can Morgan have Glock 17 the FBI uses the Glock 22" really who gives a shit personally i'd take the 17 to the 22 any day. 24guns

Glock??

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Is this a Glock 22?

here is a screen cap of Hotch's Glock. I am not good at this, can someone tell by bore diameter what caliber it is?

If you have any other questions, I have seasons 1-4 dvd, and can provide screencaps from any episodes in those seasons. --giantpandadestroyer

You overwrote someone else's shot for the film 48 Hours so it was reverted. Re-upload your pic with a unique title. MoviePropMaster2008 00:46, 24 May 2010 (UTC)


Further more, the Oregon detective appears to be firing a Glock 23. Look at the bore

Its seems to be a larger bore. But at .40 v 9mm it is hard to tell. I would call it a Glock 22 but the arguement rages through IMFDB.--2.24.85.170 14:21, 23 April 2011 (CDT)


Compact 1911 Variant

Does anyone have an ID on the compact 1911 used by the leader of the San Francisco team (Forest Whitaker) in "The Fight" (5x18)?-Snake Doc

MP-5 Use

I forget which episode it was but Morgan proceeds to fire an MP-5 on full auto through the windshield of the SUV he is a passenger in in order to stop an "un-sub". What I found interesting and realistic about that was that the driver of the vehicle called him crazy for firing a full auto weapon in such confined quarters nearly deafening her. Most other shows show little or no consequence for such a thing. --Charon68 22:15, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, and Rossi had his hearing damaged by a gunshot in another episode.

Smith & Wesson Stealth Hunter?

I personally don`t think the revolver is a Stealth Hunter. Yesterday I re watched the whole episode, and the revolver was like this variation of 629 performance center compensated barell:

In the episode, when he´s aiming at Derek, you can see what I`m saying, and there`s a better slide shot. If I had the season dvd, I´d screencap it myself. What do you think? -Thebarry1394

- Certainly could be a blue-steel version of that Performance Center variant. I do remember the cuts on the bottom being prominent in some scenes. Still, I think we should try to get other screencaps/pictures before changing it to be sure. StanTheMan 13:48, 13 July 2011 (CDT)

Criminal Minds:Suspect Behavior

Anyone gonna add a new page for the new Criminal Minds spin-off? --L.J. Gibbs 15:22, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Ditto User:Gunman06

I don't know how to set up a new page, but Beau Garrett and Janeane Garofalo both use Glock 17's, along with several FBI agents. Matt Ryan wields a SW99 and Michael Kelly has an earlier model S&W auto, possibly a 5946. Not sure about Forest Whitaker's sidearm. Hope this helps.User:mmarlon brando

Ben saves the day again!

Appreciate getting some newer (read:better) screenshots and some new ones, I've been having a hard time getting some myself, though I think a few aren't too bad. ;b Also, I hope it's ok that I've re-arranged this page and moved another couple of images over here. StanTheMan 16:05, 21 July 2011 (CDT)