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Isn't the BFA only relevant to whether the blank round cycles the action or not?  Is it possible that they could be firing blanks and then manually ejecting the round?
Isn't the BFA only relevant to whether the blank round cycles the action or not?  Is it possible that they could be firing blanks and then manually ejecting the round?
Gordon during the scene does seem put off by the sounds of the guns, although it could also be from the police officers shooting at the rigged window that Batman was standing in


==Blu Ray screen caps==
==Blu Ray screen caps==

Revision as of 03:24, 3 May 2011

Courtroom Glock

Just added a few shots from the Propstore of London. Great clear images of the modified Glock. They have it for sale at nearly $3000! Whew.--James3 03:54, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

The Joker's Knives

Microtech Combat Troodon OTF Knife

When the Joker threatens Gambol he uses a Microtech Combat Troodon OTF Knife with black plain drop point blade. In the scene when the dead Batman-impostor is brought down, originally a knife holds the joker card to the body. When it has been pulled out of the body it is a black single bladed Troodon with a serrated blade.

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Same knife as the Joker has when he kills Gambol except his is not serrated like this one.
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The Joker threatens Gambol with a Microtech Combat Troodon OTF Knife.
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"Sticks the blade in my mouth...Let's put a smile on that face!" Joker prepares to kill Gambol.

"Why so serious?!"

Here is the alternative take where a knife has held the joker card to the body.
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This is the same knife as the one who's pierced the joker card above except this doesn't have serrations which the above one has.

Extractor 1600 OTF Knife

The Jokers main knife is a Cupid clone known as the Extractor 1600 OTF knife. The exact manufacturer is unknown. As for a note, the one used by the joker has a safety catch on the bottom of the handle.

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Extractor 1600 OTF Knife. Same model as used by the Joker. Even has the safety catch on the bottom of the handle.
Original footage from the scene with the Batman-impostor. A Extractor 1600 is holding the joker card in place.
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The Joker telling Rachel one of his scar-stories as she has a knife to her face.
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"Could you please just give me a minute?" Gordon apprehending the Joker who's got the knife in his hand.
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Joker after Gordon's yanked him to the ground. Knife besides him.
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"Why don't we cut you up into little pieces and feed you to your pooches? Hmm? And then we'll see how loyal a hungry dog really is." Joker says to the chechen before his men takes him away presumedly to be eaten by dogs.

Nothing in his pockets but knifes and lint

When the Joker has been caught and brought to the MCU holding cells we see a blue-gloved police officer emptying his pockets and putting several items on a counter.

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The knife in the guys hand is a kitchen knife of unknown model. Next we have what looks like a Microtech Troodon. Then there is a knife that looks like a AKC Concord 078. And after that the knife whit it's blade extended looks like a Microtech Makora.
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Microtech Troodon is one of the knifes used in the film.
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An AKC Concord 078 like the one in the film.
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An Microtech Makora is also one of the knifes used in the film. This one, the Microtech Troodon and a Microtech H.A.L.O is said to be used in the film according to a spokesperson at Microtech. I've only spotted the first two.
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Here is another look at the knifes.

Lancashire Potato Peeler

The last item the police officer picks up is a Lancashire potato peeler. The handle has a light blueish-green or light orange colored twine.

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A Lancashire peeler with turquoise twine.
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The surprised officer pulls out an old fashioned potato peeler out of the Jokers clothes.

Rapala Fillet Knife

On posters and on promotional photos of the Joker you can see him use a long fillet knife. This is most likely a Rapala fillet knife.

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A Rapala Fillet Knife.
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The Joker with his knife in a promotional photo.
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A poster featuring the Joker with a knife and a joker playing-card in his hands.


Discussion

Do you have any information about the gun used by Harvey Dent when he shot Maroni's men? Thank you. BTW great potential website, I love it. 118.136.36.2 01:49, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Can I screen this when it comes out? I try to cover new releases plus I did the first one. - Gunmaster45
Yeah, sure, I don't see why not. I just have one request - do you by chance have a computer that can play Blu Ray? I keep looking at Legion's Fate's blog with all of his super-high quality Blu Ray screenshots, and I'm starting to get jealous. I think IMFDB needs the same quality images he has. I've seen some images from the Blu Ray version of this movie and they're soooooooo pretty. -MT2008 04:28, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
I'll see if I can break for a Blu-ray for my computer. I doubt it will be cheap though. And don't worry about that guy, we're better :).
Guner313, are you screencapping this or are you just adding some shots? - Gunmaster45
Well, our info is better, yes. And we have MoviePropMaster2008, our ultimate weapon. But I still think it'd be cool if we had some Blu Ray screenshots. I am looking at Blu Ray players myself, though I'm probably not going to be buying one immediately since my checking account is still hurting from my last gun purchase.
BTW, this page already has 20,000 views, due to this movie's popularity, so let's make it extra special. Gotta give people what they want. -MT2008 23:44, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Page

Well, it's not Bluray but I still think the images look great. pngs were wierd to use instead of jpgs for the first time but the long load time is worth it for such nice pictures on this page. I hope this is good enough as making it "extra special".

Sorry the page took so long btw, I had a lot to do this week. :P - Gunmaster45

Unbelievable! Someone removed some of my screencaps like the flashpaper Glock firing. Since it was an anonymous user, I protected the page, but I won't keep it that way forever. Just until this person decides to stop removing my pictures. (some of those images are harder to get then they appears, especially the Glock flashpaper, since frame by frame wouldn't catch it. I had to rapid-tap pause, which took about 10 mins to achieve). :( Sorry to inconveniance people. - Gunmaster45
Yeah, doing screencaps isn't as easy as some would think. It's is hard as hell for some guns that show up for a split second and never seen again. Excalibur01 08:16, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

can anyone id the jokers knifes


I would be interested in that. I was trying to Id some of them but I can't really tell, a couple of the ones being set on the table look like kitchen knives.

Like I did with The Punisher (2004), I could add all his knives to this discussion section. But I have too much to do right now. - Gunmaster45


Anybody know how they got the WZ.83 Nabój 40 x 47 mm to shoot a grapple gook.

It looked like a practical effect.

  • Must be some kind of special effects. The Pallad D shoots only two kind of ammunition fragmentation and smoke grenades. And the 40x47 mm ammo is only produced in Poland. 87.207.56.12 15:19, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Possibly a CO2 copy.-protoAuthor

  • I saw one put the grappling hook into the barrel and fire it. Maybe a grenade launcher modified for the movie. - Crysis 16:17, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
the could just used blank round to propel the grappling hook

M16A2

The M16A2 section on the page has a picture with the weapon mounted with a red dot, and the caption stating "Mounted with an Eotech". Either it's mounted with a very deformed EOTech on backwards, or it's something else. Looks most like a Trijicon Reflex (Either RX01 or RX06) attached with an RX10 gooseneck handle mount. Difficult to be more presise, though, with that picture. Are there any better shots of rifles equipped with this sight in the movie?

Dent's Smith & Wesson Model 64

During the scene where Harvey was pointing the gun to his own head and pulls the hammer back, we see the trigger appears to be pulled back already. Is there something wrong with the trigger? You see in in the screen cap. Excalibur01 03:57, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

M1 garands

If they are firing live rounds into the air it i'm pretty sure would be much louder than a blank and I would assume the police officers would notice the difference between.

except they would know they are firing a specific amount of shots, and after those shots they would have live rounds, obviously

Isn't the BFA only relevant to whether the blank round cycles the action or not? Is it possible that they could be firing blanks and then manually ejecting the round?

Gordon during the scene does seem put off by the sounds of the guns, although it could also be from the police officers shooting at the rigged window that Batman was standing in

Blu Ray screen caps

I would like to redo these caps with the Blu ray versions. Anyone else already working on it? Ben41 11 Oct 2009

I don't think anyone is. Are you going to recap the whole thing? If you are, just save over the existing caps. -Predator20 22:18, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I would like to redo it. Is the reason why the page takes so long to load is because of the PNG's? Ben41 11 Oct 2009

I didn't notice the PNG deal, i think that may have been done to get better quality pics. This is quoting MPM2008 "IMFDB has a policy that screenshots can be replaced by better shots, or full frame (4:3) shots can be replaced by the more preferable 16:9 wide screen shots (by anyone) Someone can replace anyone's screenshots if the replacing screenshots are clearly superior in quality." This existing pics are 640x480 - 290kb, yours are 1,230x720 - 88kb. While no one likes their caps being replaced, if the ones replacing it are larger and sharper that is the way it goes. Plus the file sizes being down from 290kb to 88kb, will help it a lot. -Predator20 21:52, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Yes, the PNG shots slow this page down. I can't remember why GM45 chose to use that format (he typically uses JPEG), but not long after this page, we started encouraging members not to use PNG format. If anyone wishes to replace the screencaps, feel free. -MT2008 00:50, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Smith & Wesson M76

If you watched the Oscars this year, they did a bit on the sound in the Dark Knight (to use as an example) and it actually showed the sound editors firing a Micro Uzi at full auto, and that's the sound they used for the M76, not a minigun. --Funkychinaman 06:06, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Batman in other media

If the live action Batman movies get a gun page, why not "Batman the Animated Series", the TV movie "Mask of the Phantasm" or the current show on Cartoon Network "Batman: The Brave and the Bold"???

"No Cartoons. Anime is a work of art where the Japanese took time and effort to draw, sometimes in great detail, images of firearms despite from a country that prohibits civilian ownership of arms. Only take screencaps from sources that you know for a fact is an image of a gun. We do not accept caricatures of what is supposed to be a gun. Nor do we accept images from cartoons like the Simpsons, Family Guy, South Park unless you have an image for us and anyone can ID right away as a specific gun. If you give us an image of 2 rectangles with a poorly drawn trigger and tell us it's a 1911, then it will be promptly deleted. The same rules to quality images for movies, TV, and games also apply here. Do not post low resolution of anything here or they will be deleted and replaced." From the rules. Hoot471 15:46, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Would Batman: Gotham Knight work? It's anime influenced animation just like "Animatrix".

I have no idea. Best idea would be to ask one of the admins around here. I just quoted the above from the rules as I remember someone asking about cartoons. Hoot471 08:04, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
If the rules say so, then how come The Iron Giant gets to stay on this website? It's a cartoon, too. - Kenny99 02:22, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

As I said, I don't know. Your best bet is to ask an Admin that does know the answer. Hoot471 07:20, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

--- I believe this rule applies to the kinds of cartoons or animations where any weapons used in them are drawn in very poor detail and cannot be positively identified. But for other cartoons and other anime/animation films/TV shows where firearms are drawn in great detail to where they can be positively identified and are already on this site, they are an exception. Animation films such as The Iron Giant and Atlantis: The Lost Empire and animes such as Black Lagoon, Batman: Gotham Knight, The Animatrix and Hellsing are allowed here on the site because (I am only assuming) the weapons identified in those works can be positively identified to real-world firearms, and they are not some piss-poor drawings of supposed real-world firearms like in other cartoons or animations on TV or in movies. But as Hoot471 pointed out, you'll have to ask one of the administrators. --ThatoneguyJosh 11:30, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Eminem

When the Batman imposter killed by the Joker is slammed against the mayors window and they've lowered him down, there's a Joker card from a deck of cards on his chest with the words "Will the real Batman please stand up" on it. GREAT! Very nicely done.

...and Eminem rip that off of "To Tell the Truth" game show.

Penthouse Window

When the Joker and his mooks crash the fundraiser and the Joker takes Rachel hostage he backs up to a window and points his revolver behind him and shoots and the window right behind him smashes even though his gun is pointed nowhere near the window... and would a high up penthouse window shatter completely from a single gunshot?--T.H.M.Christensen 23:25, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

glass that high up in the sky and windows that low to a walking floor has to be tempered glass, which combined with the pressure at that elavation it would most likely cause the glass to shatter like that...but im not mythbusters.

Plus it is also movie glass, which is much more easy to break. In real life, we'd see bullet holes and it would take more than one shot to shatter glass like that. Excalibur01 03:51, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Fingerprint

The shattered bullet in the wall that Batman finds and uses his CSI: Miami computer to regenerate has a fingerprint from when the shooter pushed it into the magazine (or "clip" as Alfred puts it), yet this full thumbprint would be on the casing, not on the bullet itself...Just thought I'd post it here as it's a goof. --T.H.M.Christensen 19:16, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Well it's possible for someone to push a bullet down a magazine and then press down the bullet end with his thumb. I've loaded bullets before and sometimes my thumb would touch the end of the bullet, but the unlikeliness of the CSI scan is that when a bullet is fired, the heat alone would have distorted the prints and the impact on the wall and shatter itself would have also messed up the print. And testing a identical size bullet and fired from a different type of gun into maybe not the same kind of wall material would most likely yielded a different kind of impact and would shatter the bullet into a completely different spread in the wall. Excalibur01 22:23, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

About your little "clip" quip, (no pun intended,) correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the clip technically the part of the magazine that holds the bullets, making Alfred's statement technically right, although probably unintendedly? That's One Angry Duck 18:24, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Nope. Clips are the things used to load magazines (Like the stripper clips of Mauser pistols, or the Bloc clips of an M1 Garand), and in that kind of magazine, no clip is used.