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The PPS deserves it's own page. It's a completely different weapon. The only thing it has in common with the PPSh is the ammo. It can't even share mags. And tthe PPD can go on the MP-28 page. (Or just lump the MP18, MP28, Lanchester and PPD all on one page.) --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 17:40, 29 December 2010 (UTC) | The PPS deserves it's own page. It's a completely different weapon. The only thing it has in common with the PPSh is the ammo. It can't even share mags. And tthe PPD can go on the MP-28 page. (Or just lump the MP18, MP28, Lanchester and PPD all on one page.) --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 17:40, 29 December 2010 (UTC) | ||
::I absolutely agree. PPD and PPS is completely independent weapon that has nothing to do with the PPSh, except for chuck. They deserve their own pages. You also need to mention that the stick magazines used in the PPSh only since 1944, not 1942, as written here. In 1942, PPSh has changed only in sight, but not the magazine. [[User:Slow Rider|Slow Rider]] 09:49, 23 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
I think the Finnish sub-machine gun deserves it's own page. Or dump it with the MP18 page, too. After all, it was the gun the Soviets based their PPD and PPSh. | I think the Finnish sub-machine gun deserves it's own page. Or dump it with the MP18 page, too. After all, it was the gun the Soviets based their PPD and PPSh. | ||
Or at least it should be on top of the page. | Or at least it should be on top of the page. | ||
:Ps. Yes, some PPSh's were converted to 9x19mm Parabellum, especially by the Finnish Army. They also sometimes simply used them as they were. It would have been stupid not to, since the Finns were sometimes so deep in their forests that Parabellum ammo would run out. Plus, it would have to be preserved for the KP/-31's. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 15:21, 6 January 2011 (UTC) | :Ps. Yes, some PPSh's were converted to 9x19mm Parabellum, especially by the Finnish Army. They also sometimes simply used them as they were. It would have been stupid not to, since the Finns were sometimes so deep in their forests that Parabellum ammo would run out. Plus, it would have to be preserved for the KP/-31's. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 15:21, 6 January 2011 (UTC) | ||
Revision as of 09:49, 23 January 2011
how many times must I to write this PPS 43 not PPSh ,it was build by Sudaiev not Shpagin.
Does the page look more organized now?
Move the KP-31 and the PPD on another page
I think that it's better move the description of the finnish KP-31 and the soviet PPD on page apart: The mechanical sistem of the submashingun are somewhat different from the Shpagin/Sudaiev system. However may be correct put the KP-31 and the PPD togeder, becous the PPD is a direct derivation of the finnish s.m.g. - Lone Soldier 10-28-2009 12:17
The PPS deserves it's own page. It's a completely different weapon. The only thing it has in common with the PPSh is the ammo. It can't even share mags. And tthe PPD can go on the MP-28 page. (Or just lump the MP18, MP28, Lanchester and PPD all on one page.) --funkychinaman 17:40, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
- I absolutely agree. PPD and PPS is completely independent weapon that has nothing to do with the PPSh, except for chuck. They deserve their own pages. You also need to mention that the stick magazines used in the PPSh only since 1944, not 1942, as written here. In 1942, PPSh has changed only in sight, but not the magazine. Slow Rider 09:49, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
I think the Finnish sub-machine gun deserves it's own page. Or dump it with the MP18 page, too. After all, it was the gun the Soviets based their PPD and PPSh. Or at least it should be on top of the page.
- Ps. Yes, some PPSh's were converted to 9x19mm Parabellum, especially by the Finnish Army. They also sometimes simply used them as they were. It would have been stupid not to, since the Finns were sometimes so deep in their forests that Parabellum ammo would run out. Plus, it would have to be preserved for the KP/-31's. --Warejaws 15:21, 6 January 2011 (UTC)