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[http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 West Frontier (aka Flame over India)'' (1959)]]   
[[Image:Flame.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''North West Frontier (aka Flame over India)'' (1959)]]   
'''North West Frontier''' (known in U.S. theatrical and VHS releases as '''Flame over India''') is a 1959 adventure film set in India during 1905. British Army officer, Captain Scott is given the responsibility of escorting a young Hindu prince to safety in the midst of a Muslim rebellion as his survival will ensure the failure of the uprising. The only feasible way to evacuate the boy, his American nanny and a number of other passengers is by an old locomotive over miles of hostile terrain in the hands of the rebels intent on ending the prince's bloodline.
'''North West Frontier''' (known in U.S. theatrical and VHS releases as '''Flame over India''') is a 1959 adventure film set in India during 1905. British Army officer, Captain Scott is given the responsibility of escorting a young Hindu prince to safety in the midst of a Muslim rebellion as his survival will ensure the failure of the uprising. The only feasible way to evacuate the boy, his American nanny and a number of other passengers is by an old locomotive over miles of hostile terrain in the hands of the rebels intent on ending the prince's bloodline.


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==Webley Mk.V==
==Webley Mk.V==
Capt. Scott has a .455 [http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 Mk V]] revolver as his personal sidearm. It is possible that Scott's sidearm is a Mk. I, Mk. II or Mk. IV (not to be confused with the .38 Mk. IV) Webley, the differences between the models mentiond are aesthetically minimal. However, it is difficult to tell which exact model is used since there are only a few glimpses of the revolver in action scenes and the grain of the film obscures the finer details. Historically  a Mk. I , Mk. II or Mk. IV would be correct, the Mk. V not having been adopted until 1913. A Mk. III is also a possiblity and would mean that Scott had purchased his own sidearm rather than it being issued to him since the Mk. III was a commercial endeavour not fully adopted by the British military.
Capt. Scott has a .455 [[Webley Mk V]] revolver as his personal sidearm. It is possible that Scott's sidearm is a Mk. I, Mk. II or Mk. IV (not to be confused with the .38 Mk. IV) Webley, the differences between the models mentiond are aesthetically minimal. However, it is difficult to tell which exact model is used since there are only a few glimpses of the revolver in action scenes and the grain of the film obscures the finer details. Historically  a Mk. I , Mk. II or Mk. IV would be correct, the Mk. V not having been adopted until 1913. A Mk. III is also a possiblity and would mean that Scott had purchased his own sidearm rather than it being issued to him since the Mk. III was a commercial endeavour not fully adopted by the British military.
[http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 Mk. V.JPG|thumb|none|450px|.455 Webley Mk.V revolver.‎]]
[[Image:Webley Mk. V.JPG|thumb|none|450px|.455 Webley Mk.V revolver.‎]]
[http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 .jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Capt. Scott ([http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 More]]) fires his Webley fron the engine footplate.]]
[[Image:Webley1 .jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Capt. Scott ([[Kenneth More]]) fires his Webley fron the engine footplate.]]
[http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 .jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Scott struggles with Van Layden ([http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 Lom]]) on the roof of the train.]]
[[Image:Webley2 .jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Scott struggles with Van Layden ([[Herbert Lom]]) on the roof of the train.]]


== Webley Mk.VI ==
== Webley Mk.VI ==
In one scene, Scott's sidearm changes to a [http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 Mk VI]] revolver, characterised by a longer barrel and a squared-off grip as opposed to a bird's-beak grip as seen on earlier models.
In one scene, Scott's sidearm changes to a [[Webley Mk VI]] revolver, characterised by a longer barrel and a squared-off grip as opposed to a bird's-beak grip as seen on earlier models.
This is a minor anachronism as well as a continuity error as the Mk. VI was not in production until 1915.   
This is a minor anachronism as well as a continuity error as the Mk. VI was not in production until 1915.   
[http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 Webley Mk. VI.]]
[[Image:Webley.JPG|thumb|none|450px|.455 Webley Mk. VI.]]
[http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|Capt. Scott investigates a train station with his Webley drawn.]]
[[Image:Webley3 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|Capt. Scott investigates a train station with his Webley drawn.]]


== Short Magazine Lee-Enfield (SMLE) ==
== Short Magazine Lee-Enfield (SMLE) ==
The [http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 Magazine Lee-Enfield (SMLE)]] is seen in the hands of British and Indian soldiers throughout the film as well as in the hands of the rebels and the civilian passengers of the train. The SMLEs that are seen all appear to be of the Mk. III variety which were not in service until 1907. In 1905 troops would be issued with the Mk. I SMLE or earlier models such as the Lee-Enfield Mk. I (Long Lee-Enfield) or Lee-Metford. Given the difficulty of obtaining more correct versions of what is essentially the same rifle, this mistake is more than excusable.
The [[Short Magazine Lee-Enfield (SMLE)]] is seen in the hands of British and Indian soldiers throughout the film as well as in the hands of the rebels and the civilian passengers of the train. The SMLEs that are seen all appear to be of the Mk. III variety which were not in service until 1907. In 1905 troops would be issued with the Mk. I SMLE or earlier models such as the Lee-Enfield Mk. I (Long Lee-Enfield) or Lee-Metford. Given the difficulty of obtaining more correct versions of what is essentially the same rifle, this mistake is more than excusable.
[http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 SMLE Mk. III.]]
[[Image:SMLE.jpg|thumb|none|450px|.303 SMLE Mk. III.]]
[http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|A rebel fires his Lee-Enfield at Scott and his party as they flee.]]
[[Image:SMLE1 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|A rebel fires his Lee-Enfield at Scott and his party as they flee.]]
[http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rebels prepare to ambush the stopped train.]]
[[Image:SMLE4 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rebels prepare to ambush the stopped train.]]
[http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mr Peters ([http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 Deckers]]), an arms merchant, is given a Lee-Enfield by Scott who apologises that it is made by a rival firm.]]
[[Image:SMLE5 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mr Peters ([[Eugene Deckers]]), an arms merchant, is given a Lee-Enfield by Scott who apologises that it is made by a rival firm.]]
[http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mr Bridie ([http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 Hyde-White]]) tells Capt. Scott of the time he won a cigarette case on Brighton Pier with a rifle.]]
[[Image:SMLE6 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mr Bridie ([[Wilfrid Hyde-White]]) tells Capt. Scott of the time he won a cigarette case on Brighton Pier with a rifle.]]
[http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bridie demonstrates that he shant be winning many more prizes with his shooting as he fumbles with his SMLE and accidentally fires it through a window shutter.]]
[[Image:SMLE7 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bridie demonstrates that he shant be winning many more prizes with his shooting as he fumbles with his SMLE and accidentally fires it through a window shutter.]]


== Lee-Enfield No. 4 ==
== Lee-Enfield No. 4 ==
Some soldiers and rebels can be seen with [http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 Magazine Lee-Enfield (SMLE)|Lee-Enfield No. 4]] rifles. This is a grave anachronism as the No. 4 was not fully accepted into service until 1941, 36 years after the film takes place.  
Some soldiers and rebels can be seen with [[Short Magazine Lee-Enfield (SMLE)|Lee-Enfield No. 4]] rifles. This is a grave anachronism as the No. 4 was not fully accepted into service until 1941, 36 years after the film takes place.  
[http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk. I. ]]
[[Image:LeeEnfield4Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|450px|.303 Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk. I. ]]
[http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 Indian soldier carrying a Lee-Enfield No. 4 helps Prince Kishan's nanny, Mrs Wyatt ([http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 Bacall]]) off her horse under fire.]]
[[Image:NO4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Indian soldier carrying a Lee-Enfield No. 4 helps Prince Kishan's nanny, Mrs Wyatt ([[Lauren Bacall]]) off her horse under fire.]]


==Maxim Machine Gun==
==Maxim Machine Gun==
A pair of .303 [http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 guns are mounted on the train for defence against hostile rebels along the journey.  
A pair of .303 [[Maxim]] guns are mounted on the train for defence against hostile rebels along the journey.  
[http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 Model 1895 Machine Gun.]]
[[Image:Maxim1895.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Maxim Model 1895 Machine Gun.]]
[http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 Indian soldier fires a Maxim at attacking rebels during an ambush.]]
[[Image:Maxim1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Indian soldier fires a Maxim at attacking rebels during an ambush.]]
[http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 Maxim is used against rebels attacking from the hills.]]
[[Image:Maxim2a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Maxim is used against rebels attacking from the hills.]]
[http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 attempts to fix a malfunctioned Maxim. He is frustrated that the British buy these guns because the machine guns his firm sells are much better.]]
[[Image:Maxim3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Peters attempts to fix a malfunctioned Maxim. He is frustrated that the British buy these guns because the machine guns his firm sells are much better.]]
[http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 Layden with a Maxim.]]
[[Image:Maxim4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Van Layden with a Maxim.]]
[http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|Capt. Scott fires at pursuing horsemen.]]
[[Image:Maxim5 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|Capt. Scott fires at pursuing horsemen.]]


==Unidentified Muskets==
==Unidentified Muskets==
In some instances, Rebels can be seen carrying what appear to be muzzle-loading muskets into action. From their appearence they could be dummies made for the film. Iterestingly, there was, and still is a large gunsmithing tradition in the North West Frontier provence. Crude copies of captured British firearms were made through cottage industry along with traditional oriental musket designs. The quality of such firearms is notoriously poor and they are generally considered unsafe to fire with modern ammunition.
In some instances, Rebels can be seen carrying what appear to be muzzle-loading muskets into action. From their appearence they could be dummies made for the film. Iterestingly, there was, and still is a large gunsmithing tradition in the North West Frontier provence. Crude copies of captured British firearms were made through cottage industry along with traditional oriental musket designs. The quality of such firearms is notoriously poor and they are generally considered unsafe to fire with modern ammunition.
[http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 move into position with their muskets.]]
[[Image:Muzzle.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rebels move into position with their muskets.]]


==QF 2.95 inch Mountain Gun==
==QF 2.95 inch Mountain Gun==
During the defence of Haserabad in the film's opening, Quick-Firing 2.95 inch Mountain Guns (pack howitzers) are used against attacking rebel forces. These guns were used extensively by colonial forces in the British Empire but were not officially adopted for British Army service.  
During the defence of Haserabad in the film's opening, Quick-Firing 2.95 inch Mountain Guns (pack howitzers) are used against attacking rebel forces. These guns were used extensively by colonial forces in the British Empire but were not officially adopted for British Army service.  
[http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 2.95 inch Mountain Gun.]]
[[Image:QF2.95inchMountainGun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|QF 2.95 inch Mountain Gun.]]
[http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|The guns open fire.]]
[[Image:QF1 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|The guns open fire.]]
[http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|An empty shell casing is ejected from the breech.]]
[[Image:QF3 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|An empty shell casing is ejected from the breech.]]
[http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|The bombardment continues.]]
[[Image:QF2 .jpg|thumb|none|600px|The bombardment continues.]]


==Unidentified Cannon==
==Unidentified Cannon==
A muzzle-loading cannon is seen on the walls of Haserabad when the town is under attack. Since the film was shot in Spain this could be a locally made example. Such a cannon would be concidered obsolete by 1905 with the advent of quick-firing artillery, however there is no doubt they would still prove useful in a desperate situation such as this.
A muzzle-loading cannon is seen on the walls of Haserabad when the town is under attack. Since the film was shot in Spain this could be a locally made example. Such a cannon would be concidered obsolete by 1905 with the advent of quick-firing artillery, however there is no doubt they would still prove useful in a desperate situation such as this.
[http://ameritrustshield.com/?id=9361 cannon prior to firing at the approaching rebel army.]]
[[Image:Cannonfrontier.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The cannon prior to firing at the approaching rebel army.]]






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North West Frontier (aka Flame over India) (1959)

North West Frontier (known in U.S. theatrical and VHS releases as Flame over India) is a 1959 adventure film set in India during 1905. British Army officer, Captain Scott is given the responsibility of escorting a young Hindu prince to safety in the midst of a Muslim rebellion as his survival will ensure the failure of the uprising. The only feasible way to evacuate the boy, his American nanny and a number of other passengers is by an old locomotive over miles of hostile terrain in the hands of the rebels intent on ending the prince's bloodline.

The following firearms were used in the film North West Frontier:


Webley Mk.V

Capt. Scott has a .455 Webley Mk V revolver as his personal sidearm. It is possible that Scott's sidearm is a Mk. I, Mk. II or Mk. IV (not to be confused with the .38 Mk. IV) Webley, the differences between the models mentiond are aesthetically minimal. However, it is difficult to tell which exact model is used since there are only a few glimpses of the revolver in action scenes and the grain of the film obscures the finer details. Historically a Mk. I , Mk. II or Mk. IV would be correct, the Mk. V not having been adopted until 1913. A Mk. III is also a possiblity and would mean that Scott had purchased his own sidearm rather than it being issued to him since the Mk. III was a commercial endeavour not fully adopted by the British military.

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.455 Webley Mk.V revolver.‎
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Capt. Scott (Kenneth More) fires his Webley fron the engine footplate.
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Scott struggles with Van Layden (Herbert Lom) on the roof of the train.

Webley Mk.VI

In one scene, Scott's sidearm changes to a Webley Mk VI revolver, characterised by a longer barrel and a squared-off grip as opposed to a bird's-beak grip as seen on earlier models. This is a minor anachronism as well as a continuity error as the Mk. VI was not in production until 1915.

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.455 Webley Mk. VI.
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Capt. Scott investigates a train station with his Webley drawn.

Short Magazine Lee-Enfield (SMLE)

The Short Magazine Lee-Enfield (SMLE) is seen in the hands of British and Indian soldiers throughout the film as well as in the hands of the rebels and the civilian passengers of the train. The SMLEs that are seen all appear to be of the Mk. III variety which were not in service until 1907. In 1905 troops would be issued with the Mk. I SMLE or earlier models such as the Lee-Enfield Mk. I (Long Lee-Enfield) or Lee-Metford. Given the difficulty of obtaining more correct versions of what is essentially the same rifle, this mistake is more than excusable.

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.303 SMLE Mk. III.
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A rebel fires his Lee-Enfield at Scott and his party as they flee.
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Rebels prepare to ambush the stopped train.
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Mr Peters (Eugene Deckers), an arms merchant, is given a Lee-Enfield by Scott who apologises that it is made by a rival firm.
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Mr Bridie (Wilfrid Hyde-White) tells Capt. Scott of the time he won a cigarette case on Brighton Pier with a rifle.
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Bridie demonstrates that he shant be winning many more prizes with his shooting as he fumbles with his SMLE and accidentally fires it through a window shutter.

Lee-Enfield No. 4

Some soldiers and rebels can be seen with Lee-Enfield No. 4 rifles. This is a grave anachronism as the No. 4 was not fully accepted into service until 1941, 36 years after the film takes place.

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.303 Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk. I.
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An Indian soldier carrying a Lee-Enfield No. 4 helps Prince Kishan's nanny, Mrs Wyatt (Lauren Bacall) off her horse under fire.

Maxim Machine Gun

A pair of .303 Maxim guns are mounted on the train for defence against hostile rebels along the journey.

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Maxim Model 1895 Machine Gun.
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An Indian soldier fires a Maxim at attacking rebels during an ambush.
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A Maxim is used against rebels attacking from the hills.
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Peters attempts to fix a malfunctioned Maxim. He is frustrated that the British buy these guns because the machine guns his firm sells are much better.
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Van Layden with a Maxim.
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Capt. Scott fires at pursuing horsemen.

Unidentified Muskets

In some instances, Rebels can be seen carrying what appear to be muzzle-loading muskets into action. From their appearence they could be dummies made for the film. Iterestingly, there was, and still is a large gunsmithing tradition in the North West Frontier provence. Crude copies of captured British firearms were made through cottage industry along with traditional oriental musket designs. The quality of such firearms is notoriously poor and they are generally considered unsafe to fire with modern ammunition.

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Rebels move into position with their muskets.

QF 2.95 inch Mountain Gun

During the defence of Haserabad in the film's opening, Quick-Firing 2.95 inch Mountain Guns (pack howitzers) are used against attacking rebel forces. These guns were used extensively by colonial forces in the British Empire but were not officially adopted for British Army service.

QF 2.95 inch Mountain Gun.
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The guns open fire.
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An empty shell casing is ejected from the breech.
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The bombardment continues.

Unidentified Cannon

A muzzle-loading cannon is seen on the walls of Haserabad when the town is under attack. Since the film was shot in Spain this could be a locally made example. Such a cannon would be concidered obsolete by 1905 with the advent of quick-firing artillery, however there is no doubt they would still prove useful in a desperate situation such as this.

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The cannon prior to firing at the approaching rebel army.