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Where it says "You can clearly see that it's a rubber prop since the silencer isn't aligned with the gun", I don't think that's clear at all, it could equally well be due to a short focal length lens up close making the whole thing look curved | Where it says "You can clearly see that it's a rubber prop since the silencer isn't aligned with the gun", I don't think that's clear at all, it could equally well be due to a short focal length lens up close making the whole thing look curved | ||
"You can clearly see that it's a rubber prop since the silencer isn't aligned with the gun". | |||
IMHO it's optical illusion. You can see this in many movies here. | |||
==Homage to call of duty== | ==Homage to call of duty== | ||
Revision as of 18:45, 3 December 2010
made this because i noticed the was not one made all ready --76.11.85.129 23:27, 19 January 2010 (UTC) i can put some images, just tell me Dillinger
Go ahead. I can't put any up. Rex095
I have some. Hopefully I don't screw up. This is my first page. redram355 03:03, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
I might add to descriptions if you don't mine Rex095
Go ahead. You probably know better than I do. --redram355 03:44, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
2 things to say: 1) this movie looks cool. 2) is Chloe Moretz the most younger actress to use a gun. Dillinger
- Younger? She's the most younger? Well if you mean youngest, perhaps she is the youngest FEMALE actor to use a gun, but Austin O'Brien was the YOUNGEST actor to use a gun. He was a year younger than she was for Kick-Ass when he teamed up with Arnold in "Last Action Hero From her birthday to the release of the film is 13 years. From HIS birthday to the release of his film was 12 years. Given that a film is shot a year to 18 months prior to it's wide theatrical release. (there are SOME exceptions to this rule, i.e. Halloween 2 (2009) was shot in the Spring and released in the Fall.). MoviePropMaster2008 04:33, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
- Um, hey, wasn't Natalie Portman 11 in Leon?-protoAuthor 04:18, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- I stand corrected protoAuthor! All Hail Portman! I never forgave her for PASSING on a sequel to Leon where Mathilda was 21 yrs old and herself a hitwoman. That would have been so cool! :) MoviePropMaster2008 05:22, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
So what? Afaik Moretz was eleven as well when Kick-Ass was filmed.
Red mist had a hand gun in the trailer. did any see what it was?
All I was able to catch. Dosn't help much. redram355 02:20, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
all well...we just have to wait in till it come to theater Rex095
Saw this again yesterday, Red Mist is packing a 92F --Captain Snikt 11:08, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
- Actually, he's unpacking it.
Here is the clearest shot i could get from tvshack.net and you can see that it's no revolver but a black 92F like captain said earlier.--PatrickTrudeau 22:51, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Wall of Guns
Correct me if I'm wrong, but, I think it's a G36C underneath the shortened SG552. GunEnthusiast 21:06, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
I agree. --redram355 00:45, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
- I also see a Glock. Not sure which model. I'm kinda new to this thing. GunEnthusiast 04:10, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
British Actor
Isn't this guy Jason Flemyng? Doctor Jekyll from The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen?
I ask here because he is NOT credited as being in the film by IMDB.
Anyone else think that this is the guy? MoviePropMaster2008 02:45, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
- I do agree. Though I know him better as Mulligan from Deep Rising. But anyway, IMDB sometimes doesn't get updated, so maybe he is in the movie and they just haven't put his name on the IMDB entry. -MT2008 03:03, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
- He was also in Transporter 2 and Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels as the characters Dimitri and Tom, respectively. Orca1 9904 13:05, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
it looks like he has a miner role. Rex095
- Which is irrelevant. He speaks. Even ONE LINE spoken means you should get a listing in the credits. There are weird examples in previous movies where relatively important stars are uncredited, which always mystified me. For example in the movie "Simone" with Al Pacino, the actors Elias Koteas and Rebecca Romjin-Ramos were never credited even though both had extensive screen time. One of the mysteries of the business i guess. MoviePropMaster2008 20:41, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
Rex i think its Minor. I <3 Deep Rising! LOL! He always will be a Pikey to me! =P He is in quite a few of my fav movies. -- Furious Oyster
Yeah, hes the same guy..he worked with the same director in STARDUST..i dont think he really has a credit on the film, i read somewhere its a really minor part--DB
- I don't know if you guys consider this funny, but that actor that plays the Lobby Bellman (Jason Flemyng) gets killed in some funny ways by Heckler & Koch handguns. First he gets shot in the mouth by a suppressed Heckler & Koch USP Compact by Hit-Girl. Second in "Transporter 2" he get stabbed in the neck by a disassembled Heckler & Koch USP Match slide by Jason Statham! I just find that hilarious :)!
Big daddy's sniper rifle
I think that the sniper rifle is a SIG rifle of some kind in not sure yet until I see the movie--Sniperinthemist 21:08, 14 F
Just watched this today, quite true to the comic too, there are shitloads of guns in big daddies safe houses, i mean everything, AUG's M4s G36's SIG assult rifles, desert eagles, browning hi powers, beretta 92f's n inoxes too many to mention. Also hit girl doesnt dual weild the USP compacts she has the USP in her right hand and something else in her left. Aaaaaaanyway go see it, It kicks ass, pun toatlly intended --Captain Snikt 01:04, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
I would say its either a SIG or that AR 15 that he had in his Gun room with a scope and surpressor.--FIVETWOSEVEN 18:34, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
The way I see this, his gun is a Marine Scout Sniper Rifle. Stock, pistol grip an barrel just fit. --StyX2Gamma 17:25, 25 June 2010
Jetpack miniguns
I saw the movie today, and I thought that the jetpack miniguns looked a little too small to be M134s. Dunno what they are, though. --redram355 04:09, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
- The jetpack Miniguns are complete fabrications at least for the fireing scene. Most likely the twin barrel clusters are airsoft or some other fake.Right now I am trying to figure out who makes the Armsel Striker varient from the last shootout. Rockwolf66 04:19, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Wouldn't the miniguns and the ammo weigh a lot and firing it so close to your head would make you go deaf unless he was wearing ear plugs. That nitpick aside, it was an awesome scene Excalibur01
Bingo Excal, The miniguns alone would make the pack weigh close to 100 pounds and at 7 pounds per 100 rounds and him fireing for how long? he shouldn't be able to fly with that getup on. Rockwolf66 03:14, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
Well since Jetpacks don't exist in real life, I can suspend my disblief that the jetpack CAN carrying several hundred pounds of weight on it. But still, unless he's wearing ears, his ear drums would have been bleeding by the time he's done shooting. But still...very awesome scene. Excalibur01 04:53, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
- Well they do have real life prototype jetpacks since the 1950's I think. the problem with them is that they barely have enough lift for one person and the fuel consumtion is huge so they have no range whatsoever.Rockwolf66 04:59, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
- Modern turbojet models (ie Jetpack International T-73) are much more practical, and it's quite possible to build even more capable things.
- most jetpacks built only have 30 seconds of flight time
- So what, some have well over 15 minutes. But none of either type look much like shown in the film))
- most jetpacks built only have 30 seconds of flight time
- Modern turbojet models (ie Jetpack International T-73) are much more practical, and it's quite possible to build even more capable things.
- My two cents in this conversation: (a) though the jetpacks seen in the film are obvious fantasy, there are now jet packs which can run up to 30 minutes (just shown on a recent TECH show). (b) the guns are supposed to be XM124 Micro guns, which was the 5.56mm version of the M134 7.62mm Mini gun. It's obvious because Kick Ass has belts of 5.56mm ammo before his mission. Now these don't look like G.E.'s prototype XM124 Micro gun, but the Israelis were kicking around some field testing of 'their version' of the 5.56mm micro gun, during the Intifada, though information is really scare on their gun. Sure the gun is too sparse to be an actual XM124, but the 5.5mm micro gun does exist... :) MoviePropMaster2008
Hit-Girl
What was the gun Hit-Girl was using in her left hand in the final gun fight? It was not a HK USP compact.
Even thpugh hit girl used two different guns she used the same ammo and magazines which wouldn't fit. When she swaps the magazines the USP compact doesn't release or reload as s hown, I don't know about her other gun.
I think that gun might be a SIG Sauer P230/232, can't be really sure though...--Wildcards 00:45, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
- I originally thought it might be a PPK, but I think the SIG-Sauer P230 might be a better match. --redram355 02:56, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
- There's a very quick side view when she's reloading during the hallway shootout, 100% sure it's a P23X, 98% it's a P232. --Crazycrankle 09:54, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
I'm wondering if Hitgirl's Balisong(s) should be on the page. I know this is movie firearms, but some of the pages have knives or bladed weapons in them. Should they be added to the main page or not?--FirearmFanatic 12:24, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
- No, they shouldn't. Unless this site becomes devoted to weaponry in general, it should be kept to firearms. Despite some of us(including me) having an interest in other forms of weaponry as well, this is a site for firearms, and the pages that have knives/blades on them probably shouldn't have them in all honesty. I mean, the pages for the Blade movies don't have his sword and throwing blades, the page for Big Trouble in Little China doesn't have Jack Burton's knife(which he actually uses with more efficiency than the Tec-9 he carries), etc. And it's not that those weapons were overlooked(the Tec-9 is even described on the Big Trouble page as "Jack's primary weapon along with his knife") or forgotten, it's that they simply don't belong in what is supposed to be a firearms database. DKS01 12:02, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
Well, if anyone cares to know, the balisongs are most likely Benchmade 42s.
I say if a person has good info and pictures of the knives or weaponry they can post it on the discussion page of any given movie section. Spades of Columbia Aren't "Bazookas" really just a launcher of explosives? They don't use power but a rocket. --FIVETWOSEVEN 23:44, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Where it says "You can clearly see that it's a rubber prop since the silencer isn't aligned with the gun", I don't think that's clear at all, it could equally well be due to a short focal length lens up close making the whole thing look curved
"You can clearly see that it's a rubber prop since the silencer isn't aligned with the gun". IMHO it's optical illusion. You can see this in many movies here.
Homage to call of duty
Did anyone notice the homage to call of duty: modern warfare 2 when Hitgirl is rescuing Kickass? She had the HK and knife combo just like the game.
- Just because they do that in COD doesn't mean it's homage. --AdAstra2009 23:34, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
- No kidding. I think I'd need a little more evidence than someone carrying a pistol and a knife to consider it an "homage" to CoD. DKS01 04:39, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
- It was similar then. Don't be jerks
- Don't be jerks? Don't be stupid. Nobody was being a jerk, we were simply telling you that similar does not equal homage. LOTS of things are "similar" to other things, we could all name hundreds of examples. Just cause The Matrix used an effect of bullets traveling in slow motion(ie "bullet time") doesn't make it an homage to Blade, and just cause V in V for Vendetta dresses in black garb and a black hat doesn't make it an homage to Solomon Kane. Yes, they're similar, but so are countless other things. We were simply telling you it likely wasn't an "homage", and if that counts as being a jerk to you, well, in that case, I WILL be a jerk and tell you to get your ass off the internet, cause it's clearly no place for you. DKS01 22:02, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, you were being a jerk and you still are. Where do you get this sense of entitlement? Like you own the internet.
- I probably get it from the same place where you got the halfwit view that saying something isn't an homage(that ISN'T an homage) is being a jerk. If you're truly that moronic, you deserve to be treated as such. BTW, learn to sign your comments, it's not that difficult. DKS01 04:19, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
ahahahah what a dumbass...mind a well say that whenever you have a tactical knife you're doing a homage Metal Gear Solid...ahahahha
It's my opinion. I'm keeping it. That's what the internet is for. Why don't you get your own page, so we can fight in private. It's not that hard. Tell that other guy to learn to spell. humanzie3
- You can have the opinion that the world is flat if you want. Doesn't make it less wrong though. As for getting my own page, you can click my name and leave a message on the page there if you like. Just cause the page is blank doesn't mean you can't post on it. But since the argument concerns THIS movie I'd prefer it stay here where it's relevant for anyone who wants to join it. And yeah, the other dude's grammar is a bit lacking, but his point is still, well, valid. DKS01 14:00, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Just because Hitgirl uses the Harris Method doesn't mean it's an homage to call of duty. But I think I get what you mean. --FirearmFanatic 14:15, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Thank you, I appreciate an answer like that. This conversation is going on far too long. Let's do some good for the site instead of fight. DKS01, call of duty is what I first thought of when I saw the scene, leave it at that. Other guy who can't spell; calling me a dumbass is going a little to far for the ethics of this site. Firearm Fanatic, thanks for the positve feedback.humanzie3
well,isnt that effect an actual police tactic, but they use it with a flashlight instead of a knife, dont think that is an homage at all, its just technique smish34
The thing we all have got to remember about the internet is that unlike TV, it's a form of media without any flood gates to hold anyone back. And we all have to make sure what we are saying is what we want to say because the internet isn't always a friendly place when we like to. Even in places like this where harsh arguments don't solve anything, it isn't like it's preventable. This conversation proves that because we see it as the internet, we can say whatever the hell we want without consequences and when someone responses to that, we'd feel that our "power" and right has been infringed upon when really it isn't. We shouldn't hide behind the excuse that "this is the internet" like people would hide behind "Freedom of speech." Excalibur01
All of you: http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8620/arguingwt8.jpg Love, ZeoRanger5
Haha, you're totally right.humanzie3
Actually, the first thing that came to my mind was CoD4 as well. The style is very similar, how she holds the gun, the gun recoil, how she reloads and the way she moves which is reflected through the FP camera angle. I for one, would not be surprised at all if the scene was inspired by CoD since it has become so popular these few years.
Also, as for the intial arguments, some of you were being jerks. It may have been 'homage', it may not, but I don't see the need to dismiss someone like that. Its not the that you're telling someone it isn't homage, its the tone and manner you do in it.
- We told him it probably wasn't an homage. There was no "tone" to it, it was simply stating that IT PROBABLY WASN'T AN HOMAGE. Find another way to say it and see how it will say the exact same thing, please. Nobody was being a jerk in the initial comments, this is simply a fact. DKS01 16:25, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Hey, it's cool fellas. I have no hard feelings. It was a fun argument. Thanks for backing me up though. humanzie3
i believe that the grip is called the harries grip or harries tactical grip. it's used with torches, knives, magazines, etc. you can find out more about it on nra websites and the callofduty wiki.
I think there was indeed an homage, or at least a reference, to Call of Duty. The first bad guys that Hit Girl kills, two of them are playing Call of Duty 4. Hence, when he's distracted, the leader looks back to the TV and says "Fu*k, I'm now dead..." Just remembered this after stumbleing onto this fairly large argument.
Big Daddy Warehouse
Anyone else just love that scene? He just lays waste to all those guys. It was probably one of my favorite parts. BTW does anyone know exactly what he is saying to hit girl during the rescue? It was really hard to understand it in the theater. --FuriousOyster
- Think he says "Now get to cover, Child" the first time, and "Now switch to Krypto-light" the second, (for the strobing tactical light) --- bigchiefreea -- And then something like "go to Robin's Reveeeeeeenge" (?)
The SMAW looks like an extended AT-4 tube with the fire control group being a SEF type lower reciever of a H&K MP5 with some more cosmetics on it.
- @Guy before me, I've researched this abit and it seems this is what he actually says: "Take Cover child!", "Now switch to Kryptonite!", "Go to Robin's Revenge!". The last two things he says are just code words for maneuveres. --47
IMDb states: "Big Daddy's line, "Now go to Robin's revenge!" is a reference to a Robin comic where Robin was fighting a blind master martial artist. Even though he was was blind, his skill was such that Robin could not lay a finger on him. Robin was able to set up a whistle to blow automatically. This overloaded the blind man's primary sense and allowed Robin to sneak up behind him"
Opinion about jetpack machineguns
There are clearly two variants of jetpack machineguns - the ones that are partly seen (in crate), with longer, bigger barrels of actual M-134 Minigun, and the actual ones (used in action). These ones are much shorter and smaller. I have some screenshots that show these "baby-machineguns" (they look like shortened XM214 Microgun/Six-Pak, also Kick-Ass in on scene clearly have ammo-belt of 5.56mm ammunition on shoulders, not 7.62x51mm) on gun-wall.
- I just saw the movie over the weekend and, other than finding Hit Girl the coolest pre-pubescent actress EVER, I don't think the weapons used on the jet pack are real. The relative size of the weapons in relation to the McReadys/Kick Ass makes it clear they cannot be. Added to the fact that, jet pack or no, there is no way someone could lug two miniguns (whatever model/calibre) around during hand to hand combat! --Charon68 01:21, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- Well, that particular "hand-to-hand combat" was pretty lame for both participants ;) And minigun barrels look really short btw
- perhaps it is some cap version - someone could use, that gatling system doesn´t need recoil to operate.
Or maybe they were just spinning plastic models, and the fire was added in post-prodiction.