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[[Image:Heat-AK47.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Trejo with his [[AK-47#Norinco Type 56|Norinco Type 56-1]].]] | [[Image:Heat-AK47.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Trejo with his [[AK-47#Norinco Type 56|Norinco Type 56-1]].]] | ||
[[Image:Heat-AK47-2.jpg|thumb|none|350px|A clearer shot of Trejo's [[AK-47#Norinco Type 56|Type 56-1]]]] | [[Image:Heat-AK47-2.jpg|thumb|none|350px|A clearer shot of Trejo's [[AK-47#Norinco Type 56|Type 56-1]]]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-312115.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A closeup of Trejo's Norinco Type 56-1(yet it strangely has an AKM syle muzzle slant.]] | |||
== Benelli M3 Super 90 == | == Benelli M3 Super 90 == |
Revision as of 23:44, 10 August 2008
The following guns were used in the movie Heat
IMI Galil ARM (5.56mm)
Michael Cheritto (Tom Sizemore), a.k.a. Slick, brings an Israeli assault rifle (based on the AK-47, but with improved sights, among other changes) known as an IMI Galil ARM with a folding stock to the bank heist. He gets separated from the rest of the crew during the gun battle but managed to wound one of Hanna's detectives by a transit bus.
Norinco Type 56-1 (AKS-47/AKMS)
During the armored car robbery Trejo (Danny Trejo) carries a Chinese Norinco Type 56-1 assault rifle (AKS-47/AKMS clone).
Benelli M3 Super 90
Michael Cheritto (Tom Sizemore), a.k.a. Slick, takes out the driver at the drive-in with several blasts from a pump-action Benelli M3 Super 90 12 gauge shotgun.
Beretta 92FS
The LAPD patrolmen responding to the bank robbery return fire on Neil McCauley's (Robert De Niro) crew with their standard issue Beretta 92FSs.
Remington 870
The LAPD patrolman are also seen armed with Remington 870s during the bank robbery.
Colt Commander model
Lt. Vincent Hanna (Al Pacino) opens the film with an ivory gripped Series 80 Colt Commander model that he carries on his waist in a cross draw holster.
Heckler & Koch HK91A2
Chris Shiherlis (Val Kilmer) takes out the assassin at the drive-in with a .308 to the back from his HK91A2.
FN FAL-50-61
Michael Cheritto (Tom Sizemore), a.k.a. "Slick", brings a 20" barreled FN FAL-50-61 Paratrooper version with a Side-folding stock to the armored car robbery which he uses to execute the third guard.
FN FNC 70-30
Lt. Vincent Hanna (Al Pacino) pulls out an FN FNC-70-30 law enforcement carbine outside the bank heist on Flower Street. Michael Cheritto (Tom Sizemore) receives a 5.56mm present between the eyes from Hanna's FN FNC-70-30.
M16A1
Several M16A1 assault rifles feature prominently in the film, fitted with M16A2-style handguards being wielded by various L.A.P.D. officers, including Detective Casals (Wes Studi). Casals uses one to assist in disabling McCauley's getaway vehicle (a Lincoln Town Car) and injure Chris Shiherlis (Val Kilmer) during the gun battle resulting from the bank heist.
Colt Model 654
During the armored car heist, McCauley and Shiherlis carry Colt Model 654 carbines, 14.5" barreled predecessors to the M4, with M16A1-style lightweight barrels and sights. Based on configuration it may be a 654 upper on a GAU-5A receiver (or possibly even an SP1 receiver with a drop-in autosear to allow it fire fully-automatic).
Colt Model 733
During the bank robbery Neil McCauley (Robert De Niro) and Chris Shiherlis (Val Kilmer) carry short barreled M16 rifle series carbines, which are designated as the Colt M733. They are ultra-compact versions of the M16 rifle family with 11.5-inch barrels, being smaller and shorter than the M16A2 Rifle (20-inch) and M4 Carbine (14.5-inch). The lighter encumbrance comes at a trade off of reduced range and accuracy, which is appropriate since the Model 733 can be fired from inside the vehicle, the robbers burdened by loads of cash, and because the firefight takes place at close to medium distances. The M733s have full automatic and semi-auto fire modes, while retaining the penetration of the 5.56 mm round of its big brothers, which is particularly deadly as they are capable of wounding officers and bystanders even through objects normally considered safe cover. They handle similarly to submachine guns, being less accurate but much more powerful.
Not surprisingly, Shiherlis uses the M733s to great effect, killing Bosko (Ted Levine), a member of Hanna's detectives, in a brief exchange of fire. After the getaway ride is disabled, Shiherlis sprays the police barricade with dozens of rounds, shooting up the LAPD patrol cars and bringing down several officers. McCauley also uses it to shoot a pursuing patrolman while carjacking a Ford Taurus Wagon to escape.
Mossberg 590
Detective Casals (Wes Studi) brings a Mossberg 590 in tactical trim to breach the door of Hugh Benny's (Henry Rollins) apartment. Sergeant Drucker (Mykelti Williamson) appears to carry the exact same Mossberg 590 in the firefight outside the bank heist.
SIG-Sauer P220-1
Neil McCauley (Robert De Niro) carries a SIG-Sauer P220-1 in several scenes.
Heckler & Koch USP
Neil McCauley (Robert De Niro) can be seen carrying a H&K USP of unknown caliber in the early scenes of Heat. Note the checkered back of the grip and the shape of the external thumb safety and slide release, all uncommon to a Sig Sauer P220.
Star Megastar
Waingro (Kevin Gage), the unstable newcomer to Neil McCauley's (Robert De Niro) crew, carries two Star Megastars; the first is blued, the second stainless.
Steyr TMP
The shooter at the drive-in (Max Daniels) brings a Steyr TMP 9mm, attempting to kill Neil McCauley (Robert De Niro) during the cash exchange.
Ruger KP90
Michael Cheritto (Tom Sizemore) has a Ruger KP90 in a cross draw hoster on his tac vest while he is armed with the FN FAL, during the armored car robbery.
H&K SR-9(TC)
A police sniper watches over McCauley with a H&K SR-9(TC) sniper rifle. (I'll screencap it tommorow.)
AKM
During the armored car robbery, an AKM can be seen sitting in the Van, noted by its slanted muzzle. (I'll screencap it tommorow)
- That's the Chinese Type 56-1 which is used by Trejo, already documented above.
- Then why does it have an AKM slanted muzzle, original to the AKM? Are you guys sure Trejo's AK isn't an AKMS and not a Norinco type 56-1? I watched the movie and never even saw the front sight of his AK so how can you guys see if it is a hooded sight?
- Here is a picture from my copy of the movie:
- I can't tell if it's hooded, but it's definitely not an AKM-style front sight because AKM sights are much narrower. Additionally, you see later that the gun carried by Trejo (and it is Trejo who hears the dispatch and informs the rest of the crew) has a stamped receiver and smooth receiver cover, which tends to characterize Chinese AKs (AKM would have ribbed).
- Many of the Chinese AKs imported to the U.S. in semi-automatic (which some film armorers later converted to auto-fire) were fitted with AKM-style slant muzzle breaks by the importers. If you want an example, here is the muzzle of my own pre-ban Poly Tech Chinese AK, which came with a slant muzzle break when I bought it. I've positioned the front sight and barrel in roughly the same position as the screenshot above:
- Does that make it a bit clearer for you?
- Okay, at least you gave me reasons why. You totally beat me to screencapping by the way. You might want to add that one to the top of the section to the page, it is exactly the same picture I just screencapped. Don't screencap anymore, I'm doing a few more as we speak.
- Actually, I would encourage you to replace mine with yours if you have the DVD. I only have a low-quality AVI rip of this movie, whereas you seem to have the DVDs for all of these movies you've screencapped (errr, is that the right word?) I definitely won't screencap because I recognize that the quality of any shots I could take would be inferior to those of someone else with the DVD.
- Remember, when in doubt, it's probably a Chinese AK. MoviePropMaster2008 will tell you the same thing I'm telling you. The reason is that for a while, the Chinese Norinco/PT AKs and the Egyptian Maadi ARMs were just about the only AK clones that were available in the U.S. (there were a few others, such as the Finnish Valmets, the Hungarian SA85Ms, and the Yugo AKY39s, but they were imported in much smaller numbers and cost a lot more, so they aren't as common). Most of the major prop houses and rental armories in Hollywood purchased Chinese and Egyptian AKs in bulk, and licensed Class III dealers often re-converted them back to full-auto. So most of the movies you see made in the U.S. in the 1980s and 1990s (and even today) featured those types of AKs.
Heckler & Koch MP5A3
Used by the SWAT team that is sent to the hotel in the climax.
Taurus PT92
Seen in the holster of the bank guard whom McCauley kicks to the floor during the robbery scene.
Ithaca 37 "Stakeout"
Can be seen resting behind a desk when McCauley goes to kill Waingro in the apartment building.
Glock 19
After killing Waingro, a police officer draws his Glock 19 on McCauley, only to be expertly taken out hand-to-hand and dissarmed.
Theatrical Trailer
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