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I deleted the MoviePropMaster2008 edit because of it's non-encyclopedic tone. If discussions about a certain gun in the article are to be made, I think it should be done here in the discussion section. [[User:Johnnieblue|Johnnieblue]] 23:34, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | I deleted the MoviePropMaster2008 edit because of it's non-encyclopedic tone. If discussions about a certain gun in the article are to be made, I think it should be done here in the discussion section. [[User:Johnnieblue|Johnnieblue]] 23:34, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
:Well, that's fine, but then at the very least, you should have the courtesy to copy and paste the comments into this section rather than deleting them completely, as I have done here. | |||
== Conversation on the FNC == | |||
MP2008 had a really good conversation going about which variant of FNC is carried by Vincent in this movie. I have now revived it for this section: | |||
: Well, you've been very busy, [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]], though you're making an entirely educated guess (not a bad one) The 70-30 is a Para length barrel semi auto FNC designed for Law Enforcement use and sale only , so that would be a good guess. However, The FNCs on the set WERE full auto (I was there), but Director Michael Mann directed Al Pacino to fire semi auto only (which is pretty cool since police should NOT go full auto on street full of civilians). From what I remember, Pacino's gun was a pre-1985 American imported FNC 223 rem Sporter that was converted and had the barrel chopped WAY down to mimic the Para rifles and had a M16A1 style birdcage flash hider installed (see pic) by the movie armorers. FN imported American shorter FNC guns 'called' the para rifle, but the American barrels were several inches longer than the one seen in the movie, so this one was chopped down to look more like the European Para Models of the FNC. | |||
[[Image:HEAT FNC Short.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pacino with a chopped down FNC rifle - note the M16A1 style birdcage flash hider, the original FNCs used Belgian FN FAL style flash hiders and the Para Models had an ultra short version of the same Belgian design.]] | |||
:Harry Lu was the lead armorer (same guy who just did Rambo (2008)), but he's the head coordinator. There were a LOT of trainers and gun handlers on location - it was a big shoot with lots of actors/stuntmen handling live weapons. Lu, like most armorers, acquired the guns from rental houses. At the beginning of the filming of the Street battle, the FNCs were provided by Mike Papac of Cinema Weaponry, but the filming went a lot longer than anticipated, and rifles apparently were swapped out with guns provided by Syd Stembridge of Stembridge Gun Rentals of Glendale (according to everyone's recollection), it's been almost 14 years since that shoot so everyone is working from memory. I too must check it for sure. What I remember and what Mike or Syd or Harry tell me may differ so I will try to get a pic of Pacino's exact gun or at least get the exact model and make info. ...[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] | |||
Revision as of 14:28, 10 August 2008
Bosko (Ted Levine)
The first casualty of the bank robbery gun battle. What type of gun was he using? GoldDragon 03:22, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- The rent-a-cop with the ankle holster? Or out in the street? bunni 15:48, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
- Out in the street. I though it was a G36K or something but I can't be sure. GoldDragon 02:35, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
M4
During the van rubbery DiNero and Killmer used M4s.
No, they used Colt Model 733s. - Flying Dane
Help!
Someone fucked up the pictures with  letters, i fixed that. Now, some of the pictures don't show for some reason. - User:Flying Dane
Fixed
It's okay, I fixed them. They had some long spaces in them. Alienqueen11.
MoviePropMaster2008 edit
I deleted the MoviePropMaster2008 edit because of it's non-encyclopedic tone. If discussions about a certain gun in the article are to be made, I think it should be done here in the discussion section. Johnnieblue 23:34, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
- Well, that's fine, but then at the very least, you should have the courtesy to copy and paste the comments into this section rather than deleting them completely, as I have done here.
Conversation on the FNC
MP2008 had a really good conversation going about which variant of FNC is carried by Vincent in this movie. I have now revived it for this section:
- Well, you've been very busy, Gunmaster45, though you're making an entirely educated guess (not a bad one) The 70-30 is a Para length barrel semi auto FNC designed for Law Enforcement use and sale only , so that would be a good guess. However, The FNCs on the set WERE full auto (I was there), but Director Michael Mann directed Al Pacino to fire semi auto only (which is pretty cool since police should NOT go full auto on street full of civilians). From what I remember, Pacino's gun was a pre-1985 American imported FNC 223 rem Sporter that was converted and had the barrel chopped WAY down to mimic the Para rifles and had a M16A1 style birdcage flash hider installed (see pic) by the movie armorers. FN imported American shorter FNC guns 'called' the para rifle, but the American barrels were several inches longer than the one seen in the movie, so this one was chopped down to look more like the European Para Models of the FNC.
- Harry Lu was the lead armorer (same guy who just did Rambo (2008)), but he's the head coordinator. There were a LOT of trainers and gun handlers on location - it was a big shoot with lots of actors/stuntmen handling live weapons. Lu, like most armorers, acquired the guns from rental houses. At the beginning of the filming of the Street battle, the FNCs were provided by Mike Papac of Cinema Weaponry, but the filming went a lot longer than anticipated, and rifles apparently were swapped out with guns provided by Syd Stembridge of Stembridge Gun Rentals of Glendale (according to everyone's recollection), it's been almost 14 years since that shoot so everyone is working from memory. I too must check it for sure. What I remember and what Mike or Syd or Harry tell me may differ so I will try to get a pic of Pacino's exact gun or at least get the exact model and make info. ...MoviePropMaster2008