Rescue Dawn: Difference between revisions
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Rescue Dawn: Difference between revisions
When Dengler is rescued, the helicopters are UH-1Ds which were correct (they were introduced in 1963) and supplemented the A,B & C models operating in Vietnam. However, their paint job is woodland camo, which is not correct.
When Dengler is rescued, the helicopters are UH-1Ds which were correct (they were introduced in 1963) and supplemented the A,B & C models operating in Vietnam. However, their paint job is woodland camo, which is not correct.
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In a continuity break, however, the helicopters change into UH-1N twin turbine variant from the 1970s (first introduced in late 1969), when they approach the Thai Army Base. Note: In the film, Dengler is trying to reach Thailand via the Mekong River. However, exactly where the base is at the end of the film is not clear, but technically Thailand tried to maintain it's neutrality during the conflict and it is doubtful they would have a large military base with so many Americans openly working there.
In a continuity error, however, the helicopters change into UH-1N twin turbine variant from the 1970s (first introduced in late 1969), when they approach the Thai Army Base. Note: In the film, Dengler is trying to reach Thailand via the Mekong River. However, exactly where the base is at the end of the film is not clear, but technically Thailand tried to maintain it's neutrality during the conflict and it is doubtful they would have a large military base with so many Americans openly working there.
[[Image:RD-HueyNew02a.jpg |thumb|none|600px|The rescue helicopter changes into a twin turbine UH-1N, a variant of the Huey that was not introduced until the 1970s.]]
[[Image:RD-HueyNew02a.jpg |thumb|none|600px|The rescue helicopter changes into a twin turbine UH-1N, a variant of the Huey that was not introduced until the 1970s.]]
[[Image:RD-HueyNew&BDUa.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Rescue helicopter, probably a Royal Thai Army helicopter touches down with nonstandard markings for an American gunship. Also the indigenous soldier standing at attention is wearing a helmet liner and modern woodland camouflage BDU, which is anachronistic to the time period.]]
[[Image:RD-HueyNew&BDUa.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Rescue helicopter, probably a Royal Thai Army helicopter touches down with nonstandard markings for an American gunship. Also the indigenous soldier standing at attention is wearing a helmet liner and modern woodland camouflage BDU, which is anachronistic to the time period.]]
Revision as of 00:45, 12 August 2010
Error creating thumbnail: File missingRescue Dawn (2006) Many critics and viewers noticed that one of the helicopters on this poster is a modern UH-60 Blackhawk, which did not exist in 1965, the time frame of the movie.
The following firearms were used in the film Rescue Dawn:
A large number of the Vietcong carry what appear to be milled receiver AK-47s. Gene DeBruin (Jeremy Davies) later acquires one during the escape from the POW camp in Laos.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingPoly Technologies AK-47 - 7.62x39mm. This is the commercial clone of the original Type III AK-47 and is the most used in films and shows when showing the milled receiver AK-47Error creating thumbnail: File missingA female Laotion Communist fighter stops to rest with others, the side of her milled AK visible (but here it looks like a replica gun.Error creating thumbnail: File missingGene DeBruin (Jeremy Davies) looks confused as he holds a milled receiver AK with very dark wood. Most of the Milled receiver AKs had very dark brown wood in the film.Error creating thumbnail: File missingPast the two female fighters, two uniformed Pathet Lao Soldiers (with the NVA style sunhelmets) hold a milled receiver AK and a stamped receiver Norinco Type-56 rifle.
Type 56 Rifle (AK47)
The Chinese version of the Russian AK-47, the Type 56 rifle is most seen in the film, usually by Pathet Lao troops and later acquired by the escaping American Prisoners.
Used in great numbers in the film are the 56-1 variant, aka the underfolding stock version of the Type 56 rifle.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingNorinco Type 56-1 (under-folding stock variant) - 7.62x39mmError creating thumbnail: File missingPathet Lao regulars and irregulars dismount from a truck, some carrying Chinese Type 56 rifles. Note the muzzle. - 7.62x39mmError creating thumbnail: File missingWhile relaxing in a village, a Pathet Lao soldier checks the rifle sights on his Chinese Type 56 rifle - 7.62x39mmError creating thumbnail: File missingDuring the long ride from the capture point the prison camp, a Laotian guard sleeps with his Chinese Type 56 rifle resting on his chest. Once again, note the elongated muzzle. - 7.62x39mm
Type 56 SKS
Another weapon used extensively by the Pathet Lao are SKS semi-automatic rifles. Interesting note is that the majority of them do not have the underfolded bayonets attached. One is later acquired by Duane Martin (Steve Zahn) during his escape from the POW camp with Dengler.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingChinese Type 56 Carbine aka the Chinese SKS rifle - 7.62x39mmError creating thumbnail: File missingWhen Dengler is first captured, the Laotian militia carry Type 56 SKS rifles with the pig sticker bayonets removed - 7.62x39mmError creating thumbnail: File missingTo torment Dengler, the Laotian militia leader shoots at the jungle around a bound Dengler. In the film, the squib and sound effects sound like a full auto gun firing, which is incorrect for an SKS.
An M3 or M3A1 submachine gun is seen in the hands of a female Pathet Low soldier. We never see the charging handle side so it is undetermined whether or not it is an M3 or M3A1.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingA female Pathet Lao Soldier (following her squad leader) carries an M3/M3A1 submachine gun - .45 acpError creating thumbnail: File missingA female Pathet Lao Soldier carries an M3/M3A1 submachine gun - .45 acp. It is seen when she finds a glass shard amongst the prisoners and demands to know what it is for. Despite her suspicions that it is a part of a makeshift weapon, Dengler manages to convince her that it is merely used for shaving.
MAT-49
Another weapon seen was the French MAT-49 submachine gun. In an interesting scene, one of the prison guards is playing around with the gun and he accidentally fires it and drops it to the ground with the gun still firing causing bullets to fly all around the vicinity nearly hitting everyone close by.
A guerrilla fighter runs through the forest with a Type 69 Chinese Rocket Launcher, with RPG-2 style rocketheads. This is another anachronism since the only rocket launcher available to these forces in 1965 would be the RPG-2 aka the Chinese B-40 rocket.
When Dieter Dengler finally gets picked up by American forces, one of the soldiers on board the helicopter can be seen with an slab side M16 (aka SP1) with three pronged flash hider.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingM16 (aka SP1) with 20 round magazine and slab side upper receiver - 5.56x45mmError creating thumbnail: File missingA delirious Dengler still manages to repeat his 'verification codes' to prove his identity, a soldier to the right holds an M16 (SP1) rifle with slab side upper receiver and three prong flash hider - 5.56mm
M16A1
Only seen in the film at the Thai Army base, all of the Thai soldiers have M16A1 Rifles. Since the film takes place in 1965, this is a complete anachronism. Historically the XM16E1 was introduced in 1965, however these have birdcage flash hiders and the more similar M16A1 was not introduced until 1967.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingA platoon of real Thai Soldiers march with M16A1 rifles wearing the Thai version of Woodland BDUs which is anachronistic. What is noteworthy is that most of the soldiers wear only the helmet liner rather than the full M1 steel pot style helmet, whereas we can see two soldiers with Modern Kevlar Helmets.
M1911A1 Pistol
An M1911A1 pistol is seen in the holster of a rescue pilot rushing Dengler to the hospital. It is seen in the black leather issued holster.
When Dengler finally gets pickd up by American forces, an M60D can be seen mounted on board the helicopter that picks him up.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingM60D 7.62x51mm NATOError creating thumbnail: File missingOut of the door of a UH-1D Huey with USAF markings, a door gunner fires at Pathet Lao troops with his M60D Machinegun - 7.62x51mm. What is curious is that he is bareheaded. He is not wearing a helicopter helmet nor the 'chicken plate' armor that door gunners would have.Error creating thumbnail: File missingAgain, we see the door gunner (with no helmet) manning his M60D machine gun as his helicopter lands at an indigenous Military Base.
Colt Official Police
Seen only briefly and between blurry shots, another pilot has what appears to be a vintage Colt Official Police in his shoulder rig, evident by the older style grips and frame.
Rather anachronistically, the Pathet Lao soldiers don't carry the shorter Chinese Type II stick grenades, but the longer German M24 Stielhandgranate stick grenades of World War II vintage.
When Dengler is rescued, the helicopters are UH-1Ds which were correct (they were introduced in 1963) and supplemented the A,B & C models operating in Vietnam. However, their paint job is woodland camo, which is not correct.
In a continuity error, however, the helicopters change into UH-1N twin turbine variant from the 1970s (first introduced in late 1969), when they approach the Thai Army Base. Note: In the film, Dengler is trying to reach Thailand via the Mekong River. However, exactly where the base is at the end of the film is not clear, but technically Thailand tried to maintain it's neutrality during the conflict and it is doubtful they would have a large military base with so many Americans openly working there.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingThe rescue helicopter changes into a twin turbine UH-1N, a variant of the Huey that was not introduced until the 1970s.Error creating thumbnail: File missingThe Rescue helicopter, probably a Royal Thai Army helicopter touches down with nonstandard markings for an American gunship. Also the indigenous soldier standing at attention is wearing a helmet liner and modern woodland camouflage BDU, which is anachronistic to the time period.
SPH-4 Helicopter Pilot Helmets
Inexplicably, the Skyraider pilots wear SPH-4 Helicopter Pilot helmets from the 1970s, all missing their visor assemblies. Not only is this anachronistic, it makes no sense, as the pilots have no eye protection.
Being that boots are such a strong plot point in the film, the film falters in showing obviously modern boots. The jungle boots have the thick Panama Tread (which is circa 1980s), the black leather boots are Corcoran soft leather duty boots and Dengler's boots are brown civilian lumberjack boots. The only period footwear is the black low quarters boots (center of image) which actually look like German NATO boots.
