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==[[FN FAL]]==
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* Carried by General Zateb Kazims' armored troops at the final battle (in addition to the plethora of AK47 type rifles).  They appear to be the solid Metric style front sight block, however the barrels appear to be shorter than usual, so the exact model is unknown, but they appear to be Metric FALs - 7.62x51mm.
* Carried by General Zateb Kazims' armored troops at the final battle (in addition to the plethora of AK47 type rifles).  They look to be the solid Metric style front sight block, however the barrels seem shorter than usual, so the exact model is unknown, but they appear to be Metric FALs - 7.62x51mm.
[[Image:Sahara FALSa.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Kazims' soldiers carry AKs and FN FALs - 7.62x51mm]]‎
[[Image:Sahara FALSa.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Kazims' soldiers carry AKs and FN FALs - 7.62x51mm]]‎



Revision as of 02:17, 5 August 2008

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Sahara is the 2005 Adventure movie starring Matthew McConaughey, Steve Zahn and Penelope Cruz.



The Following guns were seen in the movie:

FN MAG

  • FN MAG-58 Machine guns are seen mounted on trucks and boats, all manned by Kazims' troops.
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FN MAG-58 mounted on a patrol boat - 7.62x51mm

Browning Hi-Power

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Browning Hi Power Mark III - 9mm
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Browning Hi Power pistol - 9mm

Norinco Type 56-1

  • The under-folding stock version of the AKS-47, made in China is seen throughout the film. Mostly a mix with other AK types, carried by Kazims' Troops.
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Type 56-1 folding stock AK47s, seen on the left in the hands of a Govt. Soldier, on the right in the hands of Matthew McConaughey in an action shot - 7.62x39mm

AK-47

  • One of Tuareg fighters who help Pitt and Giordino raid the waste plant carries what appears to be an original milled receiver AK-47 - (7.62x39mm).
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Tuareg fighter (with a stolen uniform) with a milled receiver AK-47 - 7.62x39mm
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Tuareg fighter with a milled receiver AK-47 - 7.62x39mm

M20 Super Bazooka

  • Carried by Tuareg tribesmen in the desert battle - 3.5" Rocket.
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Tuareg fighter on the right holds an M20 "Super Bazooka" - 3.5" Rockets

Short Magazine Lee-Enfield (SMLE)

  • Some of the Tuareg horsemen also carry Lee Enfield Mk I rifles - .303.
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Short Magazine Lee-Enfield Mk.I - .303 in service between 1904–1926

Type 69 Rocket Launcher

  • Some of the Tuareg horsemen also carry Chinese Type 69 Rocket Launchers.
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Chinese Type 69 RPG
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Some of the Tuareg carry Chinese Type 69 RPGs though they have different warheads.

Sterling SMG

  • Seen held by Tuareg horsemen in the desert.
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British Sterling Submachine Gun - 9mm
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Tuareg Horsemen hold aloft AK rifles and Sterling Submachine guns - 9mm

FN FAL

  • Carried by General Zateb Kazims' armored troops at the final battle (in addition to the plethora of AK47 type rifles). They look to be the solid Metric style front sight block, however the barrels seem shorter than usual, so the exact model is unknown, but they appear to be Metric FALs - 7.62x51mm.
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Kazims' soldiers carry AKs and FN FALs - 7.62x51mm

L1A1

  • Used by a Mali sniper with a scope, but later commandeered by Al Giordino (Steve Zahn).
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Sniper fires an L1A1 with early style wood grips and scope - 7.62x51mm
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Steve Zahn holds an L1A1 in the truck - scene from the movie "Sahara"

PKMS

  • Kazims' Soldiers are seen holding PKMS Machine Guns (7.62x54R).
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Soldier guards the palace with a PKMS (slung) - 7.62x54R. The soldier checking the papers is holding a Norinco Type 56-1 under-folding stock AK rifle.

Norinco Type 84

Al's rifle during a desert battle is a Norinco Type 84 .223 AK Rifle. The reciever cover has been replaced with an AKM ribbed type instead of smooth chinese types similair to older AKs. The furniture is blonde aftermarket. A similair rifle appears in Casino Royale used by the militia soldiers.

Note: this is NOT a Type 84. Type 84s are blued, this is painted black, the magazine is completely different (it just just like the ROMAK 223 magazine) and the front sight is a European pattern, NOT the Chinese hooded front sight.

Look at the third screenshot of him leaning over the rifle - that is clearly a hooded front sight. I have never seen a European AK that has that; Chinese AKs (and the Iranian license-built copies of them) are the only ones with that style sight. As far as the magazine goes, Type 84s can take Romak-style magazines. Here's a picture of one:
File:Type56-1s.jpg
The finish is suspicious, but if they went to the trouble of replacing the receiver cover and furniture, maybe they could have re-finished it as well. Or maybe this is some Franken-Kalash variant. But the front sight is definitely Chinese style, so I'm guessing a Type 84 was still the base gun.
I don't agree. The front sight is OPEN not the chinese closed hooded sight. I've look at it from several angles and it is an AKM open sight. Also check your PMs. I listed several other strong points which indicate that it is NOT a Type 84 nor ever was. The irrefutable proof is the front sight (which is an AKM style) and the fact that you can't see the 2nd notch hole that would be on the barrel if it originally had a type 84 sight and the gas block (which has metal pieces indicating that the front sling swivel is attached), this gun does not.

To clarify my remarks (which might be hard to follow being that I'm not the best typist) I have included an image which details what I was discussing. I ran out and took a closeup shot of one of the Type 84s in inventory. Many of these were 'converted' to resemble AK74s back in the day and haven't been configured back to original spec yet. Notice how the finely machine and blued finish of the original Type 84 contrasts with the 'rough' machined and spray painted AKM replacement front sight. After the 1980s, the fit and finish of AK and SKS guns just went down the tubes, IMHO.

Anyway, you can see the 'notch' in the barrel for the pin used to lock down the back half of the Chinese Front Sight. If they converted a Type 84, the notch would be there since all Type 84s were shipped with original Chinese Front Sights. Also note the differences in the Gas block. File:Type84DetailsA.jpg

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He's right, if you look real close, that sight isn't hooded. Someone needs to properly classify this gun. Try to delete all these argumental facts if possible. I'm afriad I don't know enough about Roman AKs to help out.

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