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Just looking at the section for the [[Glock 34]], only [[End of Days]] and [[Man on Fire]]. In both movies, It's used by the Main Character to attempt suicide. That's gonna be a good ad campaign: "''When You Can't Go On Anymore, Reach For Your Glock 34''" | Just looking at the section for the [[Glock 34]], only [[End of Days]] and [[Man on Fire]]. In both movies, It's used by the Main Character to attempt suicide. That's gonna be a good ad campaign: "''When You Can't Go On Anymore, Reach For Your Glock 34''" | ||
==1st Generation== | |||
Did the first generation of Glock feature anything other than the Glock 17? I've seen second and third generation versions of nearly every model, but the only first generation pistols I've seen are Glock 17s. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]] | |||
Revision as of 04:28, 5 July 2010
2 Glocks (.45?) play prominet roles in the movie "Fracture" starring Anthony Hopkins. Don't know the model so I didn't edit the main page (80.121.38.199 18:10, 20 March 2008 (UTC))
Got rid of some Glocks
- On the page that is. No point posting a bunch of Glock models that aren't used in anything. StanTheMan 20:42, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
- I realize weapons that have not appeared in any media don't warrant space on IMFDB but the omissions of several models is kind of ginving me an OCD breakdown.
- - I sympathize with ya somewhat. BUT, for me personally, it's more annoying to load a page where upwards of half the guns have pretty much nothing to do with films/etc. StanTheMan 19:52, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Longslide versions get their own Glock Model Numbers?
It seems kind of odd to me as to why variations of Glock pistols available with longer barrels have their own unique model numbers. Many gun websites I've been to don't seem to list such customizations with their own unique model numbers (except maybe in inventory listings or the like), but rather just mention that a particular model of pistol has a longer barrel version available. Is such a practice just for convenient reference? To satisfy customer preferences? Or for some other reason?
By the way, I appreciate all the hard work the people here have done in identifying the various Glock pistols used in the media on this site. I'd find it pretty hard myself, since barring obvious visual differences like how to tell a full-size Glock from a subcompact one apart, I wouldn't be able to tell a G17 from a G22 without seeing the number on the slide in a movie, for instance, since they look substantially the same. Something like trying to tell a G22 from a G20 would also be quite difficult without hearing a character in a movie say its caliber out aloud or seeing the number on the slide, since they are chambered for similarly-sized cartridges. I don't think its entry on the date of this comment is correct--the real-life US Marshals use Glocks chambered for .40 S&W, not 10mm Auto.
About the only exception to the aforementioned practice on Glock's end is the Glock 20, which apparently now has a factory-made longslide version (not the aftermarket ones), but to my knowledge does not have a unique Glock model number. Can someone fill me in on this? --Mazryonh 06:15, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
The "Glock invisible"-nonsense
Here's what Hugh Laurie (yes, the "House M. D."-guy) had to say about that in his novel "The gun seller": "You may have read, at one time or another, some of the nonsense that’s been written about the Glock. The fact that its body is made from a fancy polymer material got one or two journalists very excited a while back about the possibility that the gun might not register on airport X-ray machines - which happens to be so much hooey. The slide, barrel, and a fair portion of its innards are metal, and if that weren’t enough, seventeen rounds of Parabellum ammunition are pretty hard to pass off as lipstick refills. What it does have is a high magazine capacity for a low weight, great accuracy, and virtually unequalled reliability. All of which have made the Glock 17 the choice of housewives everywhere." Dr. House, I couldn't agree more. --Lastgunslinger 22:39, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
I have to admit that my whole perspective of Glock changed when they sued Smith & Wesson over the Sigma. I mean, they make more money from their handguns than any other company in the world and then they go and sue someone. The Glocks design is so simple it resembles every handgun, you might as well sue them all. I see the similarities but they are easily telled apart. Not a cool thing to do Glock, I wish you hadn't stooped down like that.
"The Glocks design is so simple it resembles every handgun, you might as well sue them all."
It only resembles every handgun, because almost every brand has a Glock copy now. There wasn't anything like it back in 1982 when it was released. Back then its main competitors were the 1911, S&W 39, Berreta 92 and various wheel guns. Gunner313 Not to mention that S&W didn't just copy the Glock design they cloned it with parts that would fit into a Glock body, with potentially disastrous consequences.
Durability
- Does anyone else find it ironic that Glock's are nigh indestructable but feel really fragile?-S&Wshooter 23:05, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
The Glocks I've fired, for the most part, don't feel extremely fragile. Sure, they don't have that 'all metal heft' that some other handguns have, which makes them lighter, and conceivably more fragile feeling, but none of mine have never felt like they would shatter if I dropped them. I might be misunderstanding what you mean, though. Acora 21:39, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
- It just about takes a nuclear blast to destroy one, but at the same time it feels like I could cruch it with my bare hands-S&Wshooter 20:45, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
Catastrophic Failure
The Portland, Oregon police department stopped offering the .45 Glock 21 as an option for Officers to carry on duty after two incidents in which the weapons exploded in the hands of the range master during testing. Afterwards reports came in from across the country of similar incidents with the Glock 21. Do all Glocks chambered for powerful cartridges (.45, 10mm) have this problem or is it just the Glock 21? Furthermore do all Glock 21s have this issue or were these just a few rare accidents? I don't particularly like Glock pistols but never considered them dangerous (at least to the user) before hearing about these incidents. -Anonymous
Hmm. Given the problems that PPB has given Glock in the past (back in the early nineties they commented that "PBB is one of those customers we can't seem to ever make happy") I'm not surprised they blame the company rather than themselves. They also refused to fly to Smyrna to allow Glock to examine one of the pistols; they also refused to allow Glock to remove even one of the allegedly defective pistols for lab tests. The PPB also failed to submit either of the pistols for independent testing, despite stating that it would.
If there was a design flaw it would have shown up long before now. Glock has ~65% of the US LEA market, mostly in .40 and while the "Short and Weak" isn't nearly as powerful as 10mm Auto, it's generally loaded to higher pressures than .45 ACP
I've used the G20 and G29 (both chambered for the far more powerful 10mm Auto round) for years and haven't had a gun explode or do anything worse that FTE when used with poor ammunition. A few years back we torture tested one with 15,000rds in a single day, it didn't explode.
It's only certain Glock models that do it. I've noticed it a lot on the .40 S&W models such as the 22 or 23. The problem is that in order to increase more reliable feeding as well as to make the gun cycle more reliably, Glocks have more of their chambers cut away, which leaves parts of the case unsupported. They count on the casing to hold in the powder load. I think it happens mostly on the larger cartridges such as 10mm Auto, .40 S&W or .45ACP. Haven't heard of it happening on any of the .45GAP models though. I'm personally not a big fan of Glock pistols. I don't find them very visually appealing and I hate the lack of a manual safety. And I really, really dislike the trigger they make on it. They need to take off the little lever in the trigger, and just go to a solid double action trigger and put a manual safety on it. I'm a 1911 man, but I think there are many other designs that are better than Glock's. For example, Sig Sauer or H&K. Or Springfield's XD series. S&W Sigma. I mean the list goes on and on. I won't buy a Glock for the reasons I mentioned above. Right now, all I own are 1911s and one H&K USP .45.
- I've only had hands-on experience with the Glock 21 myself. Me and my sister shot one on my birthday this year, and she had the Glock malfunction on her too, albeit not nearly as severely as the incidents mentioned above. She pulled the trigger and the weapon failed to discharge. When I cleared the chamber, I found that the pin had missed the primer and struck the back of the casing. After that though we didn't have any further problems with the weapon, that being the only round out of 50 we put through the Glock 21 that had a misfire. Orca1 9904 03:19, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
Glock 18
what would a fully automatic pistol be used for? VIPs protection and CQC There was a fad for such machine pistols (VP-70 and M-93R for other examples).
But the Personal defense weapon have taken this firearm nitch and more. Rex095
Sort of like lasers when they first came out.--FIVETWOSEVEN 20:24, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
what do you mean? about the lasers
Generation 4 Glocks
I realized that the page is laking the Gen 4 Glock 17 and Gen 4 Glock 22 --Yocapo32 17:34, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
Added the Gen 4 model for Glock 22--SB2296 17:49, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
- The picture you posted is not a 4th Generation Glock; it is an RTF (Rough Texture Frame) model, which is not the same thing. The main difference between the 4th Gen Glocks and older models is that they now have removable backstraps. And anyway, we don't need the picture until we know they've appeared in movies (and at the rate armorers buy new pistols, no time soon.) IMFDB's policy is that we don't need a picture of every variant of a gun that has ever existed (at least not on the gun's page), and especially if it hasn't appeared in anything yet. -MT2008 18:23, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
Well that and the fact that the 4th Generation also has a captive recoil spring, but of course how in the hell do you show that? Shot a 4th Gen G17 today at the range. Very nice. Recovery is all that much faster. I was impressed. The company will be coming out with the 4th Gen G19 in a month or so. However the 4th Gen G21SF isn't due out until next year. Sorry 45 acp mafia. I was talking to one of the corporate guys so I feel confident that he knows what he's talking about. Anyway just some nice to know trivia.--Jcordell 05:11, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Glock 34
Just looking at the section for the Glock 34, only End of Days and Man on Fire. In both movies, It's used by the Main Character to attempt suicide. That's gonna be a good ad campaign: "When You Can't Go On Anymore, Reach For Your Glock 34"
1st Generation
Did the first generation of Glock feature anything other than the Glock 17? I've seen second and third generation versions of nearly every model, but the only first generation pistols I've seen are Glock 17s. -Anonymous