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Sadly I'm 5500 miles from my DVDs presently so I can't really back this up with screenshots as good as I'd like to, but I'll do what I can. [[User:YourMessageHere|YourMessageHere]] 16:44, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Sadly I'm 5500 miles from my DVDs presently so I can't really back this up with screenshots as good as I'd like to, but I'll do what I can. [[User:YourMessageHere|YourMessageHere]] 16:44, 30 March 2009 (UTC)


== Mateba 2006M vs. Mateba 6 Unica ==


Togusa's revolver is modeled after the Mateba 2006M. This is a real gun and it is different from the Mateba 6 Unica Autorevolver. To reload 2006M you swing out the cylinder upwards to the left, just like in the movie. The 6 Unica's cylinder moves downward instead. Also, the top of the Unica's frame is open, which is clearly not the case for Togusa's gun.
Togusa's revolver is modeled after the Mateba 2006M. This is a real gun and it is different from the Mateba 6 Unica Autorevolver. To reload 2006M you swing out the cylinder upwards to the left, just like in the movie. The 6 Unica's cylinder moves downward instead. Also, the top of the Unica's frame is open, which is clearly not the case for Togusa's gun.
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According to one of the caps, it shows them field stripping an M22 where it swings open forward like an AR-15. The FN P90 that the M22 is based off of does not open forward and tilt on a hinge. The front of of a P90 just comes apart forward from the rest of the body. Here's a vid of a PS90 (The civi P90) being field stripped. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IhG1o1bz_I [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]
According to one of the caps, it shows them field stripping an M22 where it swings open forward like an AR-15. The FN P90 that the M22 is based off of does not open forward and tilt on a hinge. The front of of a P90 just comes apart forward from the rest of the body. Here's a vid of a PS90 (The civi P90) being field stripped. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IhG1o1bz_I [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]
== M22 vs. M23 ==
Motoko Kusanagi calls her weapon M23 (you can hear her pronouncing it as "ni-san", meaning "two-three") and it is translated as M-23 in all english subtitles that I have. Why does the article call this weapon M22?<br />
: バトー「装備は?」
: 草薙「M23とユニットB。」
: Batou: Equipment?
: Kusanagi: M23 and UnittoB
Also: What's a Unit-B?
19:18, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Revision as of 19:18, 3 May 2010

I had a good going over of this page; I feel that apart from being severely lacking in information and with several errors, using one page for three films and two TV series occupying two parallel continua was somewhat silly. I've studied the guns from the GITS series in depth; I fully intend to make pages for each film and each series in the future, and populate all of them with far more than I've cropped from here. In the meantime I'm using this to store this paragraph.

In the Stand Alone Complex TV series, Togusa carries a fictional Mateba 2006M, which quite closely resembles the real Mateba Unica-6 autorevolver, a semiautomatic revolver with uses the recoil of firing to revolve the cylinder and cock the hammer. The most visible difference from the Unica-6 is a ventilated rib that the 2006M lacks, although the grip is also different.

File:Mateba 6 Unica.jpg
MATEBA Unica-6

Sadly I'm 5500 miles from my DVDs presently so I can't really back this up with screenshots as good as I'd like to, but I'll do what I can. YourMessageHere 16:44, 30 March 2009 (UTC)


Mateba 2006M vs. Mateba 6 Unica

Togusa's revolver is modeled after the Mateba 2006M. This is a real gun and it is different from the Mateba 6 Unica Autorevolver. To reload 2006M you swing out the cylinder upwards to the left, just like in the movie. The 6 Unica's cylinder moves downward instead. Also, the top of the Unica's frame is open, which is clearly not the case for Togusa's gun.

Hence Togusa's Mateba/Matever resembles a 2006M and not a 6 Unica.

Youtube video comparing both revolvers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0zxgyim_g4

02:12, 3 May 2010 (UTC)


The P90 does not field strip like the M22

According to one of the caps, it shows them field stripping an M22 where it swings open forward like an AR-15. The FN P90 that the M22 is based off of does not open forward and tilt on a hinge. The front of of a P90 just comes apart forward from the rest of the body. Here's a vid of a PS90 (The civi P90) being field stripped. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IhG1o1bz_I Excalibur01


M22 vs. M23

Motoko Kusanagi calls her weapon M23 (you can hear her pronouncing it as "ni-san", meaning "two-three") and it is translated as M-23 in all english subtitles that I have. Why does the article call this weapon M22?

バトー「装備は?」
草薙「M23とユニットB。」
Batou: Equipment?
Kusanagi: M23 and UnittoB

Also: What's a Unit-B? 19:18, 3 May 2010 (UTC)