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::(MPM2008) At any rate, it could be anything post 1978. It sure ain't an actual Colt Commando (unless the armorers just swapped a later version carbine upper onto the registered lower receiver. And it surely is NOT an XM177 series rifle (which was the initial erroneous attribution on this page). I could be clearer by renaming it Colt Sporter 1 Carbine, which may be a more accurate and less confusing description. Hope this helps. | ::(MPM2008) At any rate, it could be anything post 1978. It sure ain't an actual Colt Commando (unless the armorers just swapped a later version carbine upper onto the registered lower receiver. And it surely is NOT an XM177 series rifle (which was the initial erroneous attribution on this page). I could be clearer by renaming it Colt Sporter 1 Carbine, which may be a more accurate and less confusing description. Hope this helps. | ||
:::OK, you've enlightened me somewhat. I imagine Colt must have made LOTS of changes to the guns over the years, but I can remember a single AR15 SP1 (marked on the receiver) I've seen that had a forward assist OR magazine fencing, and I've definitely seen at least one or two that didn't have the last round, bolt hold-open. In fact, most AR15 A2s from the 1980s that I've seen also lack the magazine fencing. If you want an example of what I've always thought of what I think of AR15 SP1s, this is it: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=102804875 | |||
[[Image:ColtM653.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt AR-15/SP1 Carbine - Civilian market model of the Colt Model 653 with 16" Barrel - 5.56mm]] | [[Image:ColtM653.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt AR-15/SP1 Carbine - Civilian market model of the Colt Model 653 with 16" Barrel - 5.56mm]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-276860.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Chen loads up his Colt Carbine in preparation to kill Sheridan.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-276860.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Chen loads up his Colt Carbine in preparation to kill Sheridan.]] | ||
Revision as of 22:49, 29 June 2008
The following weapons can be seen in the film U.S. Marshals:
Glock 22
The Glock 22 pistol appears in the film as the main weapon of U.S. Deputy Marshal Sam Gerard (Tommy Lee Jones) and his fellow deputies. Later in the film, Special Agent John Royce (Robert Downey Jr.) can be seen using one when he and Gerard are pursuing Mark Sheridan (Wesley Snipes) aboard the cargo ship, breaking up a fight between Sheridan and Gerard by shooting Sheridan in the shoulder after Sheridan gets ahold of Gerard's Glock and pistol-whips Gerard in the back with it. Near the end of the film, royce attempts to use his Glock to kill Sheridan and Gerard, only to discover that Gerard had replaced the magazine with an empty one from his gun.
(It is revealed in the film that Gerard carries the G22 during the hospital scene, when Gerard points out that Royce is now carrying a Glock and Royce replies, "Yeah, Glock .40, just like yours.")
Taurus PT945
When Royce and Gerard first meet, Gerard asks to see what kind of gun Royce is carrying. Royce then produces a stainless steel Taurus PT945 which Gerard calls a "nickel-plated sissy pistol", advising Royce to get a Glock instead. During the manhunt in the swamp, Sheridan takes the pistol from Royce and holds him at gunpoint in a short standoff with Gerard before shooting Gerard in his bulletproof vest in order to make his escape. Royce manages to retake the weapon and later uses the pistol to fatally wound Deputy Marshal Noah Newman (Tom Wood) when Newman catches Royce about to kill Sheridan in cold blood at the Lorelei Building. Royce then tries to pass it off as the gun Sheridan used to kill Newman with the serial number filed off, but Gerard recognizes it from their earlier meeting.
Glock 27
When boarding the prisoner transport flight, Gerard removes both his Glock 22 and a sub-compact Glock variant that he carries in an ankle holster as a backup weapon. This is most likely a Glock 27, which is chambered for the same .40 S&W cartridge as his Glock 22. After this scene, the baby Glock is not seen for the rest of the film.
Glock 17
NYPD officers responding to the Lorelei Building can be seen carrying Glock 17s as their standard sidearms.
Colt AR-15/SP1 Carbine
During the cemetery scene, Sheridan and the deputies come under fire by U.N. Cultural Attache of China Xian Chen (Michael Paul Chan) wielding a Colt AR-15/SP1 Carbine fitted with a scope and Sound Suppressor from the roof of one of the buildings. (Note: though it could be one of the many other manufacturers versions of the same design. Not all M16/AR-15 style guns in movies are Colts. Many are Bushmaster, PWA, Eagle Arms, Olympic Arms, or any of the major AR15 clone makers of the 1980s and 1990s. )
- I'm somewhat confused. First of all, every AR15 SP1 I've ever handled had (1.) No forward assist, (2.) No fencing around the magazine release, and (3.) No bolt catch. The carbine in the picture shown below appears to be a military model because it has the standard A1-type receiver with features (1.) and (2.).
- (MPM2008) You're right about the SP1 full sized rifle (except for the bolt hold open catch. I'm holding an SP1 as I type this and the rifle has it.) I am not sure what you are referring to. At any rate I was talking about the carbine. Here is a verbatim quote from a passage on the history of the Colt AR15:
- In 1978 Colt introduced the first new model of the AR-15 (Cat.#6001), the Sporter 1 carbine. The gun featured a 16 inch barrel, short round handguards and the telescoping, plastic coated, aluminum stock of the XM177 series submachine gun(sic). This model was produced unchanged until the last batch was shipped in 1985. This last batch, around ser.# 212,000 had the finger-grooved pistol grip of the A2 series.
- Thus when the Sporter 1 Carbine was out, the rifles already had the A1 features. I also mentioned previously (quote) "(Note: though it could be one of the many other manufacturers versions of the same design. Not all M16/AR-15 style guns in movies are Colts. Many are Bushmaster, PWA, Eagle Arms, Olympic Arms, or any of the major AR15 clone makers of the 1980s and 1990s. )" Carbines built after 1978 had the A1 features (those new features were already ten years old at the time) regardless of what they were marked. After 1985 they started making A2 design changes to the Carbines as well.
- (MPM2008) You're right about the SP1 full sized rifle (except for the bolt hold open catch. I'm holding an SP1 as I type this and the rifle has it.) I am not sure what you are referring to. At any rate I was talking about the carbine. Here is a verbatim quote from a passage on the history of the Colt AR15:
- As far as the gun in the movie, I'm not so sure it's a civilian model, either, because when Chen loads it, you clearly see him push in the bolt catch to chamber a round after loading in the magazine. So it's most likely a military model of some sort.
- (MPM2008) The bolt hold open button has nothing to do with either military or civilian rifle. Both of them have it. All that means is that the bolt was already locked in the 'chamber empty' position and he used it to chamber the round when he put a full magazine in the rifle. It was a civilian rifle and the actor fired semi automatic in the entire scene.
- (MPM2008) At any rate, it could be anything post 1978. It sure ain't an actual Colt Commando (unless the armorers just swapped a later version carbine upper onto the registered lower receiver. And it surely is NOT an XM177 series rifle (which was the initial erroneous attribution on this page). I could be clearer by renaming it Colt Sporter 1 Carbine, which may be a more accurate and less confusing description. Hope this helps.
- OK, you've enlightened me somewhat. I imagine Colt must have made LOTS of changes to the guns over the years, but I can remember a single AR15 SP1 (marked on the receiver) I've seen that had a forward assist OR magazine fencing, and I've definitely seen at least one or two that didn't have the last round, bolt hold-open. In fact, most AR15 A2s from the 1980s that I've seen also lack the magazine fencing. If you want an example of what I've always thought of what I think of AR15 SP1s, this is it: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=102804875
Kahr K9
Following the car crash in Chicago, firefighters responding to the accident find a blue steel Kahr K9 hidden in the glovebox of Sheridan's tow truck (although the gun is mostly covered up by the holster it's in, you can see "K9" on the end of the slide). The discovery of this weapon leads to Sheridan being arrested on concealed weapons charges.
Ruger SP-101
When Sheridan hijacks a semi truck, he also takes possession of the driver's Ruger SP-101 revolver and some extra ammo for it. He later uses it during the manhunt in the swamp, holding Royce at gunpoint with it.
XL-17 Pen Gun
While on board the prisoner transport flight, an Asian prisoner retrieves an XL-17 pen gun hidden in a roll of toilet paper in the lavatory. The prisoner then attempts to use the weapon to kill Sheridan but fails, the shot piercing the fuselage of the plane and causing an explosive decompression that sucks the would-be assassin and several other prisoners and guards out of the plane and forces an emergency landing.
M1911A1
Upon reaching New York City, Sheridan meets with an old friend he calls "Sarge" who provides him with materials needed in his mission to exonerate himself, including a stainless steel M1911A1. He then uses it when he confronts Agent Barrows in the cemetery, pistol-whipping him in the face and holding him at gunpoint with it. He then uses it in the ensuing shootout with Xian Chen, and while being persued to the Lorelei Building by Gerard and company. Interestingly, Gerard can be seen holding this pistol on promotional material for the film, but never uses one on-screen.
Remington 870
Remington 870 shotguns make several appearances in the film, first in the hands of prisoner transport flight guards following the crash-landing, then in the hands of locals helping with the swamp manhunt, then in the hands of NYPD officers at the Lorelei Building.
Mossberg M590 "Compact Cruiser"
A pistol-grip Mossberg M590 "Compact Cruiser" is recovered by Gerard from a baby's crib during the fugitive arrest in the beginning of the film. One of the suspects tries to get this weapon so that he can shoot Deputy Marshall Noah Newman (Tom Wood), but Newman shoots him with his Glock before he can do this. Gerard later takes this weapon and uses it to intimidate another suspect.
