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It's definitely NOT a Russian. The only feature it has in common with the Russian is a mount for a lanyard ring, which only the Russian model had; an existing Schofield could have easily had that added. Plus, it's lacking the Russian's distinctive trigger-guard spur, as the poster above noted. But there are two basic structural differences between the gun pictured here and the Russian; the Russian had a differently-shaped grip than the standard Schofield; it was more rounded at the corners, not so squared-off...and the Russian model had a distinctive "bump" along the back of the grip just behind the hammer that the regular Schofield didn't have. This weapon is not a Russian.
It's definitely NOT a Russian. The only feature it has in common with the Russian is a mount for a lanyard ring, which only the Russian model had; an existing Schofield could have easily had that added. Plus, it's lacking the Russian's distinctive trigger-guard spur, as the poster above noted. But there are two basic structural differences between the gun pictured here and the Russian; the Russian had a differently-shaped grip than the standard Schofield; it was more rounded at the corners, not so squared-off...and the Russian model had a distinctive "bump" along the back of the grip just behind the hammer that the regular Schofield didn't have. This weapon is not a Russian.
== Kate's gun ==
Kate ([[Joanna Pacula]]), Doc Holliday's girlfriend, carries a [[Colt Lightning|Colt Lightning Shopkeeper]], drawing it on a saloon keeper when Doc stabs Ed Bailey.
[[Image:DSC02878.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt Lightning, Shopkeeper model]]
[[Image:Tomb-coltlights1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kate draws her Lightning Shopkeeper on the saloon keeper when he reaches for a shotgun.]]
[[Image:Tomb-coltlights2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kate aims her Lightning Shopkeeper at the other saloon patrons.]]
That's NOT a lightning that Kate has there. The gun is smaller and the cylinder and flutes are too short to be a lightning.  Its one of the many cheap solid frame DA pistols of the era. Looks more like a "British Bulldog" or some variant of that.
Actually, contrary to the earlier post, that IS a Lightning that Kate is packing. It is not a Cimarron New Model Lightning, which is a modern invention, but rather an historical Lightning double-action with the appropriate long flutes and small stature. Its size is due to the fact that it was chambered in the diminutive .38 Colt cartridge.
I disagree. The profile isn't quite right to be a Lightning. It's some variant of a Bulldog as I stated above. There's no way that's a Lightning. I'd bet my entire gun collection on that.
Check this thread on the Coltforum that shows a picture of guns from the movie. It shows the picture of the "bulldog" that Kate had in the movie:
http://www.coltforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=143268&posted=1#post143268
Here's a picture of some Forehand and Wadsworth British Bulldogs which is what Kate is holding. I wish I could just post this picture on here and get rid of the picture of the lightning but I can't seem to do that. This is the type of gun she is holding. It is definitely NOT a Colt of any type: http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv236/twaits/forehand.jpg

Revision as of 10:21, 20 March 2010

~This firearm looks more like the smith and wesson No. 3 Russian model in the film, especially given the long flat expanse behind the hammer.~ - If you look at the screenshot provided, the triggerguard has no spur coming off of it. Might be a Russian model with some damage?

It's definitely NOT a Russian. The only feature it has in common with the Russian is a mount for a lanyard ring, which only the Russian model had; an existing Schofield could have easily had that added. Plus, it's lacking the Russian's distinctive trigger-guard spur, as the poster above noted. But there are two basic structural differences between the gun pictured here and the Russian; the Russian had a differently-shaped grip than the standard Schofield; it was more rounded at the corners, not so squared-off...and the Russian model had a distinctive "bump" along the back of the grip just behind the hammer that the regular Schofield didn't have. This weapon is not a Russian.

Kate's gun

Kate (Joanna Pacula), Doc Holliday's girlfriend, carries a Colt Lightning Shopkeeper, drawing it on a saloon keeper when Doc stabs Ed Bailey.

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Colt Lightning, Shopkeeper model
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Kate draws her Lightning Shopkeeper on the saloon keeper when he reaches for a shotgun.
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Kate aims her Lightning Shopkeeper at the other saloon patrons.

That's NOT a lightning that Kate has there. The gun is smaller and the cylinder and flutes are too short to be a lightning. Its one of the many cheap solid frame DA pistols of the era. Looks more like a "British Bulldog" or some variant of that.

Actually, contrary to the earlier post, that IS a Lightning that Kate is packing. It is not a Cimarron New Model Lightning, which is a modern invention, but rather an historical Lightning double-action with the appropriate long flutes and small stature. Its size is due to the fact that it was chambered in the diminutive .38 Colt cartridge.

I disagree. The profile isn't quite right to be a Lightning. It's some variant of a Bulldog as I stated above. There's no way that's a Lightning. I'd bet my entire gun collection on that.

Check this thread on the Coltforum that shows a picture of guns from the movie. It shows the picture of the "bulldog" that Kate had in the movie:

http://www.coltforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=143268&posted=1#post143268

Here's a picture of some Forehand and Wadsworth British Bulldogs which is what Kate is holding. I wish I could just post this picture on here and get rid of the picture of the lightning but I can't seem to do that. This is the type of gun she is holding. It is definitely NOT a Colt of any type: http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv236/twaits/forehand.jpg