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Maybe the non-Asian people are nothing but hired guns? As for the other members, such as the guy in the garage or the second hand man, maybe it was just a necessity for them to be more diverse? Anyway the gunmen could easily be freelancers he hired to go after Chow Yun Fat's character. Makes sense instead of using your on men on a very well trained killer?[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 01:31, 13 March 2010 (UTC) | Maybe the non-Asian people are nothing but hired guns? As for the other members, such as the guy in the garage or the second hand man, maybe it was just a necessity for them to be more diverse? Anyway the gunmen could easily be freelancers he hired to go after Chow Yun Fat's character. Makes sense instead of using your on men on a very well trained killer?[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 01:31, 13 March 2010 (UTC) | ||
::''Maybe the non-Asian people are nothing but hired guns?'' | |||
::Which doesn't explain why Mr. Wei's right-hand man is played by German [[Jürgen Prochnow]] (who is apparently supposed to be an American in this movie). I think MPM's explanation is best - Hollywood just loves to insert diversity even into groups of people where it makes no sense, and this movie is a good example. Also note that the street gang in the movie (the one at the dice game, when John and Meg steal Loco's truck and all of its guns) is similarly diverse - it has black, white and Latino members, plus an "Asian" girl (I apologize in advance for using that word). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:32, 16 March 2010 (UTC) | |||
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the MP5K - A3 switch
he reaches for a fresh magazine, not an A3.
MP5K briefcase
Someone please point me to an outside source which claims that the briefcase version must be fired horizontally. Thanks so much. I haven't heard that before and have fired the device myself vertically. I thought that shooting it horizontally would ensure a stovepipe. MPM2008
- That's what HKPRO says: Difficult to fire accurately, the briefcase can easily put bullet holes into the calf of the firer, should he decide to fire the K on full auto while holding the case normally. Can you picture it? (http://hkpro.com/mp5k.htm) I have no idea how true it is, as I've never seen nor handled the briefcase MP5K. However, I can imagine that if you fire it vertically and you're letting it loosely dangle at your side (the way Til Schweiger is doing in the movie), the recoil would make it difficult to control and you could, maybe, shoot your own legs. -MT2008
- Interesting. I've only fired it with blanks. And I held it with two hands, right hand on top, left hand holding the bottom of the case and it was fine. I think that risk only happens if you hold it buy the carry handle and let it 'dangle', certainly the 'push back' of the constant fire would push the briefcase backwards. MoviePropMaster2008 04:54, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Widescreen
I fixed the images, one less page with widescreen bars. - Gunmaster45
Browning HP
"You can see that it is a P35 from the brown grips, the Mark III has black ones and you can tell that it is not the original one since its hammer is the same as the Mark III's"
What does that mean? The P35 is the original one, the first model. I know they started making those spur hammers after the war, but I'm not sure exactly when. It could be a Mark II.
- Yeah, what does that mean? The early ones more commonly called the P35 had the internal extractor, you can buy new Hi-Powers that are basically the same as the Mark III models but blued and wood grips. The spur hammers have been around forever. The P35 is just another name for the Hi-Power. -Predator20 00:40, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
IMI Desert Eagle Mark VII
How do we know it is the .357 variant?
- Maybe the number of rounds fired before reloading or maybe the muzzle diameter? -Predator20 00:32, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- Muzzle diameter, in this case. Also, the .357 Desert Eagles were by far the most common ones seen in American action movies in the 1990s, so when in doubt, it's always a safe bet. -MT2008 21:10, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
DVD vs. Blu Ray
I just picked up this movie on Blu Ray. I haven't finished watching it yet (or screencapping), but I thought I'd post this image to illustrate the quality difference. Compare the two images (focus especially on how detailed the bad guy's SIG P226 appears in the top image versus the bottom image when you expand to full-size):
Looks pretty good, eh? -MT2008 21:10, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
- Blu Ray time starts now. -MT2008 00:20, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Ethnic Groups
If this movie is about Triads, how come half the members aren't even Asian? This is very very unrealistic! (Mind you I am Asian myself.)
This is about Triad groups in America, not Asia. So some of the people will inevitably not be Asian. Now for my personal observation of the use of the word "Asian" to describe only Japanese/Chinese people. The countires of Asia are: Afghanistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Bhutan, Brunei, Burma (Myanmar), Cambodia, China, Georgia, Hong Kong, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Japan, Jordan, Kazakhstan, North Korea, South Korea, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lebanon, Malaysia, Maldives, Mongolia, Myanmar, Nepal, Oman, Pakistan, Philippines, Qatar, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Sri Lanka, Syria, Taiwan, Tajikistan, Thailand, Turkey, Turkmenistan, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Vietnam, and Yemen. So what kind of "Asian" are you exactly?--Spikemonkey 20:26, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
I am Chinese, and does this mean that white people can join the "Chinese" Triads?
- Hollywood always 'mixes' up the races. I can't tell you how many 'White Christian Militia groups' in TV shows happen to have Black, Asian and Hispanic members as well ... Doh! ;) I also laugh when I see an ethnically DIVERSE street gang. I think they are specifically trying not to tar any one group as being 'the bad guys'. Of course this is not done when dealing with specific villains, like the African soldiers in 'Tears of the Sun', etc. Also SPikemonkey, you're being a little pedantic in your 'dictionary' version of Asian. No one that I know from Georigia, or UAE or Yemen call themselves 'asians'. That term stems from the word 'Oriental' which in the old days meant any country east of Constantinople. Racially and ethnically it's a historical bastardization of people's bloodlines (and has never really been corrected in the text books, which sucks). I mean, seriously. An Iranian is racially NOTHING like a Korean, etc. Those definitions were coined back in the day of 'OLD EUROPE' and reflects their cultural and racial ignorance. :) MoviePropMaster2008 18:31, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- I know, I know. Just for some reason it's always rubbed me the wrong way. I just wish people would learn the differences between Japanese, Chinese, Korean, etc. as opposed to grouping them all as "Asian". I mean, even the person above, who is Chinese, said Asian. And, I agree with you about how most "Asians" would never call themselves as such. My Russian friend Val certainly doesn't. And don't even get me started on "Oriental." :) But, for the record, you sound like a smart cookie, MPM2008. I'm glad you are on here.--Spikemonkey 18:43, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Maybe the non-Asian people are nothing but hired guns? As for the other members, such as the guy in the garage or the second hand man, maybe it was just a necessity for them to be more diverse? Anyway the gunmen could easily be freelancers he hired to go after Chow Yun Fat's character. Makes sense instead of using your on men on a very well trained killer?GaBoy45 01:31, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
- Maybe the non-Asian people are nothing but hired guns?
- Which doesn't explain why Mr. Wei's right-hand man is played by German Jürgen Prochnow (who is apparently supposed to be an American in this movie). I think MPM's explanation is best - Hollywood just loves to insert diversity even into groups of people where it makes no sense, and this movie is a good example. Also note that the street gang in the movie (the one at the dice game, when John and Meg steal Loco's truck and all of its guns) is similarly diverse - it has black, white and Latino members, plus an "Asian" girl (I apologize in advance for using that word). -MT2008 15:32, 16 March 2010 (UTC)