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[[Image:AC-IJATank2.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Patton and Malone walk past an Imperial Japanese Type 95 Light Tank "Ha-Go" with a German Iron Cross emblem on the side of the body.  The Paint job is a perfect copy of the correct early war Imperial Japanese camo scheme and we can see the external muffler of the Ha Go.]]
[[Image:AC-IJATank2.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Patton and Malone walk past an Imperial Japanese Type 95 Light Tank "Ha-Go" with a German Iron Cross emblem on the side of the body.  The Paint job is a perfect copy of the correct early war Imperial Japanese camo scheme and we can see the external muffler of the Ha Go.]]
[[Image:AC-HagoA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the Imperial Japanese Type 95 Light Tank showing the 7.7mm secondary machine gun.]]
[[Image:AC-HagoA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the Imperial Japanese Type 95 Light Tank showing the 7.7mm secondary machine gun.]]
I don't know if capitulate is the right word. Perhaps you should try appeasement.[[User:Jp|Jp]] 22:23, 3 January 2010 (UTC)


==Trivia==
==Trivia==

Revision as of 22:23, 3 January 2010

The following weapons were seen in the film An American Carol:

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An American Carol (2008)


AKM

AKM rifles are used by the Taliban operating in Afghanistan. Cuban soldiers in Michael Malone's (Kevin P. Farley) documentary "Death to American Pigs" are also armed with AKM rifles.

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AKM, Stamped Steel Receiver w/ slant muzzle brake 7.62x39mm
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AKMs are seen carried by Taliban members.
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Cuban Soldiers carry AKMs as Michael Malone prepares to leave back for America. The soldier to the left is veteran stuntman Thomas Rosales Jr. of Predator 2 fame.
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Michael Malone (Kevin P. Farley) is interviewed by Bill O'Reilly, we see a graphic in the background with Pope Gregory holding an AKM aloft.

AKMS

The AKMS is the folding stock variant of the AKM rifle. It is also seen used by Taliban members.

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Aziz (Robert Davi) carries a folding stock AKMS as he tries to persuade "Terrorist on Bike" (Oren Rehany) to ride down the mountain with a bomb vest and no brakes.

Romanian AIMS

A Romanian AIMS (the folding stock Romanian version of the AKM) is seen in a pile of training materials captured in Afghanistan.

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To the left is a Romanian AIMS Rifle with side folding stock

Ruger Vaquero

General George S. Patton (Kelsey Grammer) carries a Ruger Vaquero revolver (impersonating a Colt Single Action Army) throughout the film, at one point contemplating shooting Michael Malone with it. The Ruger logo on the faux ivory grips is the giveaway.

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General George S. Patton pulls out his Ruger Vaquero to shoot Michael Malone (Kevin P. Farley) but things better of it and puts it away - .45 LC
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General George S. Patton (Kelsey Grammer) talks to Malone with his Ruger Vaquero in his holster - .45 LC
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General George S. Patton (Kelsey Grammer) takes Michael Malone to modern day Afghanistan, while holding his Ruger Vaquero aloft - 45 LC
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The Ruger logo is visible on Patton's Revolver when he explains to Malone that if Abraham Lincoln did not fight the Civil War, slavery would not have been abolished.

Winchester Model 1897 Trench Gun

General Patton (Kelsey Grammer) and a group of World War II GIs fight off ACLU zombies with Winchester Model 1897 Trench guns.

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Winchester Model 1897 "Trench Gun" - 12 gauge. This is an original mint condition 1935 Manufacture commercial trench gun by Winchester.
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Remington 870

When the ACLU zombies are attacking people in court, the judge (Dennis Hopper) uses a Remington 870 shotgun, handing one to Malone.

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Remington 870 Police Magnum Riot Shotgun - 12 Gauge
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Judge (Dennis Hopper) shoots ACLU zombie lawyers with his Remington 870 Shotgun - 12 gauge
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Judge (Dennis Hopper) fires his Remington 870 Shotgun - 12 gauge
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Michael Malone (Kevin P. Farley) accidentally fires his Remington 870 Shotgun when he slams it down on the bench, however the foregrip is at the rearward position, meaning that the rack is all the way back, thus firing would be impossible.

M4 Carbine

When Michael and Patton travel to Afghanistan numerous American soldiers are seen armed with M4 Carbines.

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Colt M4A1 Carbine with 4 position collapsible stock 5.56x45mm
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American soldiers watch over enemy prisoners with M4 Carbines.

M16A1

During a country western music concert to benefit American troops, Michael Malone sees the ghosts of Servicemen past watching over their modern counterparts. Only Malone can see the spirits of the soldiers and sailors from previous American conflicts, none of the other concert goers can see them. One of the first armed 'ghosts' he sees is a Vietnam era soldier, holding an M16A1 rifle - 5.56x45mm

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M16A1 with 20 round magazine - 5.56x45mm
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M1 Carbine

During the same concert, Malone sees the ghosts of two Korean War veterans, holding post WW2 M1 Carbines.

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Korean War Era M1 Carbine, with Birch Stock, Adjustable sight, bayonet lug, and twin magazine pouch.
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M1 Garand

During the same concert, Malone sees a single ghost of of a World War 2 Soldier, carrying an M1 Garand rifle.

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M1 Garand semiautomatic Rifle with leather M1917 sling - .30-06
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M1903 Springfield

During the same concert, Malone sees the ghosts of two World War I era troops are seen with M1903 Springfield rifles. One seems to have a transitional pattern M1903 and the second ghost soldier holds an Mk1.

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Springfield M1903 Mk 1 - .30-06
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.577 Enfield Musket

During the same concert, Malone sees the ghosts of two Union soldiers from the American Civil War, both carry the 577 Enfield Musket (which was commonly used to supplement the 58 Springfield musket that was the issued long gun of the "blue coats").

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1728 First Model Brown Bess

Revolutionary war solders are seen at the end armed with 1728 British Land Pattern Musket aka the venerable "Brown Bess". These are the earliest models with the brass end cap and extended lock shape.

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BGM 71 TOW Launcher

A BGM 71 TOW Launcher is seen in the American military camp in Khandahar.

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Chinese Type 69 RPG

A Taliban members is briefly seen in the background carrying a Chinese Type 69 Rocket Launcher - 40mm.

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Chinese Type 69 RPG 40mm
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Gun Platforms

Type 95 Light Tank HA-GO

When General Patton walks Malone down the street after the signing of the infamous Munich Agreement of 1938, (where British PM Chamberlain all but capitulated to Adolf Hitler's demands), the pair walks past a series of armored vehicles and trucks being loaded by German troops. Incredibly, and rather anachronistically, there is an ultra rare Imperial Japanese Type 95 Light Tank (called the "Ha-Go"), that was mostly seen in Manchuria. It sported a 37mm main gun and a 7.7mm machine gun. Why it is there in the background with an anachronistic German Iron Cross on the body is a good question.

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Patton and Malone walk past an Imperial Japanese Type 95 Light Tank "Ha-Go" with a German Iron Cross emblem on the side of the body. The Paint job is a perfect copy of the correct early war Imperial Japanese camo scheme and we can see the external muffler of the Ha Go.
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Another shot of the Imperial Japanese Type 95 Light Tank showing the 7.7mm secondary machine gun.

I don't know if capitulate is the right word. Perhaps you should try appeasement.Jp 22:23, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Trivia

Inaccuracies regarding WW2 uniforms and conduct

  • Despite being a fantastical comedy / farce, the uniforms of the major dictators was unusual in that the color red was essentially 'de-saturated' from their clothing. Tojo's brown uniform was grey, and his red collar tabs were also grey. Hitler's Mustard brown coat also seem missing the red as well as the NSDAP arm band. Mussolini's arm patch would have red stripes, but it has grey ones. This 'could' have been an intentional choice to show that they are 'ghosts' of the past, but it is worth mentioning. As for the 'guards' or adjutants, German Heer or SS officers don't hold a posture like U.S. Marines, when at a meeting. When not 'at arms' (i.e. not wearing their belts and pistols or other military weapons) they would have their hats off and arms to the side.
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The color is 'off' on the uniforms. Note that the Swastika arm bands have no 'red'.