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[[Image:S&W5904LateModel.jpg |thumb|none|300px|Late Model Smith & Wesson 5904 - 9mm. The early model 5904 pistols had the finger step trigger guard, but S&W changed it to the rounded trigger guard for 'ease of production'.]] | [[Image:S&W5904LateModel.jpg |thumb|none|300px|Late Model Smith & Wesson 5904 - 9mm. The early model 5904 pistols had the finger step trigger guard, but S&W changed it to the rounded trigger guard for 'ease of production'.]] | ||
[[Image:S&W915.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Smith & Wesson Model 915 - 9mm. This model is similar to the 5904, but the decocker is not ambidextrous and the sights are standard iron sights rather than the Novak type.]] | [[Image:S&W915.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Smith & Wesson Model 915 - 9mm. This model is similar to the 5904, but the decocker is not ambidextrous and the sights are standard iron sights rather than the Novak type.]] | ||
[[Image:HarTim1Bale.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Jim aims his S&W auto in a promotional image.]] | |||
[[Image:Ht10.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Jim holds his S&W on Flaco and crew. In this scene, the gun is quite clearly a newer-model 5904 with the rounded trigger guard.]] | [[Image:Ht10.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Jim holds his S&W on Flaco and crew. In this scene, the gun is quite clearly a newer-model 5904 with the rounded trigger guard.]] | ||
[[Image:Harshtimes 7.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Another view of Jim holding the S&W 5904 on Flaco. Note the ambidextrous safety and Novak sights, as well as the rounded trigger guard.]] | [[Image:Harshtimes 7.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Another view of Jim holding the S&W 5904 on Flaco. Note the ambidextrous safety and Novak sights, as well as the rounded trigger guard.]] | ||
Revision as of 22:10, 19 November 2009
The following guns were used in the movie Harsh Times:
M4A1 Carbine
When Jim Davis (Christian Bale) is having military flashbacks to his days as an Army Ranger in Afghanistan, many of the Rangers in the flashbacks are armed with M4A1 carbines. All the M4A1s are fitted with RIS foregrips, Aimpoint M68 scopes, AN/PEQ-2 IR designators, and tactical flashlights.
- Note that the above picture is actually Jim with his M933 The Winchester
Colt Model 933
During Jim's military flashback, Jim is armed with a Colt Model 933 fitted with forward hand grip, Aimpoint M68 scope, AN/PEQ-2 IR designator, and tactical flashlight. He uses it with great affect to clear out an Afghani trench by himself.
M249 SAW
Another weapon which Jim sees in his Afghanistan flashbacks is the M249 Squad Automatic Weapon (SAW).
Unknown AK rifle (Norinco Type 56?)
The Taliban fighters who get killed by Jim and his fellow Rangers are armed with AK-type assault rifles which are most likely the Norinco Type 56, the most common AK seen in movies and TV shows (and the most common AK-type rifle used by the Taliban in real life).
RPK (?)
An RPK-type light machine gun is visible in the scene where Jim and his fellow Rangers are engaging Taliban militants, but it is not seen clearly enough to be sure. It is possible that this is a Valmet M78, which has very often been used to impersonate the RPK in American movies, but it doesn't seem to have the distinctive three-prong flash hider of the M78. It's also likely that this might be one of the semi-auto Norinco copies that were sold in the U.S.
- The barrel seems too short to be the RPK. It looks like a 21" Chinese RPK clone with the Chinese club foot stock and a standard Chinese AK front wooden fore end. Or it could be a 'franken-gun'. Lord knows there are tons of those in the film biz. :) MPM
- Yeah, I think you're right. I think I'm gonna have to add some pics of Chinese RPK-type weapons to the RPK page, just because I imagine there are plenty of American armorers who use them in movies. Good call. -MT2008
Type 69 RPG
A Type 69 RPG (the Chinese copy of the RPG-7 is visible in the scene where Jim is fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan. It is not seen clearly, but the weapon seems to have the thicker heat shield of the Type 69.
Smith & Wesson 5904/915
Throughout the movie, Jim uses a Smith & Wesson semi-automatic pistol which changes models repeatedly, depending on the scene. When he uses the S&W to rob Flaco (Noel Gugliemi) and his crew, it is a newer-model Smith & Wesson 5904 with a rounded trigger guard and the Novak-type sights. However, at the end of the film, when Jim draws the S&W on Flaco again, and later when Mike uses the gun, it clearly has the standard iron type sights and right side-only safety, which would make it a Smith & Wesson 915. Also, when Jim gets angry and points the gun at Mike, it seems to have the squared trigger guard of the older-model 5904. In other words, at least three different guns are used to represent Jim's pistol. This is a continuity error, likely caused by the fact that this movie had at least three different armorers (according to IMDB), all of whom likely worked on different scenes and brought different guns to the set during filming.
Ruger KP94
When Jim and Mike rob Flaco and his crew, they take a brown paper lunch bag containing a Ruger KP94 pistol and a BB pistol. After this, Jim and Mike spend much of the film driving around and trying to sell the gun to various gang members, cops, and other such characters for $300. Jim even refers to the gun as a "Ruger P94" repeatedly throughout the film whenever he's trying to sell it to people. He also says it's a "good fuckin' gun" when he first takes it out of the bag. Other characters through the film, likewise, praise the Ruger as a good gun, including Darrel (Terry Crews), who calls it a "nice little machine".
Beretta 92FS
Early in the film, in his military flashback dreams, Jim kills a Taliban militant with a Beretta 92FS, standing in for the Army-issue M9 pistol. The Beretta 92FS is also used by the cops who pull Jim and Mike over while they're driving around with open alcohol containers and guns in their car.
Heckler & Koch USP Tactical
Early in the film, while Jim and Mike are leaving a Korean-owned convenience store after buying beers and cigarettes, they see a gang member run by shooting at another gang member. The owner of the convenience store comes out with a Heckler & Koch USP Tactical after hearing the disturbance. (It should be noted that the USP Tactical would be banned in California, where the movie takes place, because the threaded barrel would classify the gun as an "assault weapon" under California's gun laws).
Colt Python
When Jim confronts Flaco at the end of the film, Flaco draws a 4" Colt Python on him.
SWD/Cobray Street Sweeper
At the end of the film, when Jim and Mike flee the scene where Flaco is shot, another drug dealer comes out of the house nearby and fires at their car with an SWD/Cobray Street Sweeper cylinder shotgun. A noticeable goof is that the foley editor added the sounds of a pump-action shotgun being cocked every time the weapon is fired, even though the Street Sweeper is a semi-automatic shotgun.
