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'''The following weapons were used in the film ''We Were Soldiers'':''' | |||
'''The following | [[Image:We_Were_Soldiers_Poster.jpg|right|300px|''We Were Soldiers'' (2002)]] | ||
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== XM16E1== | == XM16E1== | ||
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The [[M16 rifle series#M16 Rifle|XM16E1]] assault rifle are used by the soldiers of the 1st Battalion, 7th Cavalry Regiment including Lieutenant Colonel Hal Moore ([[Mel Gibson]]), First Lieutenant Charlie Hastings ([http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0046768/ Robert Bagnell]), Second Lieutenant Jack Geoghegan ([[Chris Klein]]), Sergeant Ernie Savage ([[Ryan Hurst]]) and most United States Army soldiers. Later on the film during the Battle of Landing Zone X-Ray, Joe Galloway ([[Barry Pepper]]) uses one as well. These were actual XM16E1s. | The [[M16 rifle series#M16 Rifle|XM16E1]] assault rifle are used by the soldiers of the 1st Battalion, 7th Cavalry Regiment including Lieutenant Colonel Hal Moore ([[Mel Gibson]]), First Lieutenant Charlie Hastings ([http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0046768/ Robert Bagnell]), Second Lieutenant Jack Geoghegan ([[Chris Klein]]), Sergeant Ernie Savage ([[Ryan Hurst]]) and most United States Army soldiers. Later on the film during the Battle of Landing Zone X-Ray, Joe Galloway ([[Barry Pepper]]) uses one as well. These were actual XM16E1s. | ||
[[Image:XM16E1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|XM16E1 with 20 round magazine | [[Image:XM16E1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|XM16E1 with 20 round magazine 5.56x45mm]] | ||
[[Image:HeroXM16E1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Actual XM16E1 used by [[Mel Gibson]] in the movie. Picture taken from Long Mountain Outfitters website.]] | [[Image:HeroXM16E1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Actual XM16E1 used by [[Mel Gibson]] in the movie. Picture taken from Long Mountain Outfitters website.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-82003.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hal Moore ([[Mel Gibson]]) lands on LZ X-Ray. "I will be the first to set foot on the field..."]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-82003.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hal Moore ([[Mel Gibson]]) lands on LZ X-Ray. "I will be the first to set foot on the field..."]] | ||
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A Korean war era [[M1 Carbine]] is carried by the ARVN interpreter dressed in tiger stripe fatigues. He appears in the scene in which the NVA scout is captured and interrogated. Viet Minh soldiers also use them against the French during the intro. | A Korean war era [[M1 Carbine]] is carried by the ARVN interpreter dressed in tiger stripe fatigues. He appears in the scene in which the NVA scout is captured and interrogated. Viet Minh soldiers also use them against the French during the intro. | ||
[[Image:M1CarbineLateModel.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1 Carbine with Bayonet Lug and | [[Image:M1CarbineLateModel.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1 Carbine with Bayonet Lug and adjustable rear sight .30 Carbine]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-33726.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds a M1 Carbine to a French soldier.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-33726.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds a M1 Carbine to a French soldier.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-82336.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter lands on the Ia Drang Valley with his [[M1 Carbine]].]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-82336.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter lands on the Ia Drang Valley with his [[M1 Carbine]].]] | ||
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[[Image:Vlcsnap-91714.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter points his [[M1 Carbine]] at the captured NVA soldier. Note the Bayonet Lug.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-91714.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter points his [[M1 Carbine]] at the captured NVA soldier. Note the Bayonet Lug.]] | ||
== M60 | == M60 Machine Gun == | ||
The [[M60 machine gun]] is used by several US soldiers. Various door gunners use them as well. | The [[M60 machine gun]] is used by several US soldiers. Various door gunners use them as well. | ||
[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 | [[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 7.62x51mm NATO]] | ||
[[Image:M60 WWS.JPG|thumb|none|600px|An M60 team lays down fire.]] | [[Image:M60 WWS.JPG|thumb|none|600px|An M60 team lays down fire.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-39931.jpg|thumb|none|600px|US soldiers train with their M60's.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-39931.jpg|thumb|none|600px|US soldiers train with their M60's.]] | ||
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[[Image:Vlcsnap-154314.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A US machine gunner provides supressing fire with his [[M60]] while the rest of the 1/7CAV troopers prepare to conduct a bayonet charge against the NVA position.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-154314.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A US machine gunner provides supressing fire with his [[M60]] while the rest of the 1/7CAV troopers prepare to conduct a bayonet charge against the NVA position.]] | ||
== | == M1911 == | ||
A Colt [[M1911 pistol# | A Colt [[M1911 pistol pistol series#M1911|M1911]] is used by Command Sergeant Major Basil Plumley ([[Sam Elliott]]) as his main weapon since he prefers the .45 to the XM16E1, which he calls a "Piece of Plastic". It is anachronistic to see the first model of the M1911 being used by Plumley since the M1911 was replaced in 1924 by the improved [[M1911A1]] which was the sidearm of the US Military in the Vietnam War, World War 2 and the Korean War. It could be that the M1911 was used to make Plumley more "Badass". As if a Sergeant Major that fought against a entire regiment of heavily armed NVA and a NFL Battalion armed only with an M1911A1 was not badass enough. | ||
:No, he really did that-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 21:38, 16 August 2009 (UTC) | :No, he really did that-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 21:38, 16 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
::Wait, Plumley actually carried a M1911 not an M1911A1 in the battle?--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:32, 15 September 2009 (UTC) | ::Wait, Plumley actually carried a M1911 not an M1911A1 in the battle?--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:32, 15 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
[[Image:COLTM1911 1913.jpg|thumb|none|500px| | |||
[[Image:COLTM1911 1913.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1911 .45 ACP]] | |||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-99097.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Gentleman. Prepare to Defend Yourselves!" Plumley Cocks his M1911.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-99097.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Gentleman. Prepare to Defend Yourselves!" Plumley Cocks his M1911.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-137131.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Plumley reloads his M1911.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-137131.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Plumley reloads his M1911.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-155397.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Plumley fires his M1911.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-155397.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Plumley fires his M1911.]] | ||
== | == M1911A1 == | ||
A Colt [[M1911 pistol#M1911A1|M1911A1]] is seen in the holster of Lt. Col. Hal Moore and most of the soldiers of the 1st Cavalry Division that appear in the movie. Some soldiers use the M1911A1s. | A Colt [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1]] is seen in the holster of Lt. Col. Hal Moore and most of the soldiers of the 1st Cavalry Division that appear in the movie. Some soldiers use the M1911A1s. | ||
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|500px| | |||
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1911A1 .45 ACP]] | |||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-133597.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An soldier with his M1911A1.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-133597.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An soldier with his M1911A1.]] | ||
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== PPSh-41 == | == PPSh-41 == | ||
The NVA and the Vietcong use [[PPSh-41 / PPSh-43|PPSh-41]]s submachine guns during the intro sequence and the rest of the movie. | The NVA and the Vietcong use [[PPSh-41 / PPSh-43|PPSh-41]]s submachine guns during the intro sequence and the rest of the movie, with both the standard drum magazine and 35-round box magazines. | ||
[[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg|thumb|none|500px| | [[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PPSh-41 7.62x25mm Tokarev]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-30728.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier gets shot while holding a PPSh-41.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-30728.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier gets shot while holding a PPSh-41.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-31305.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds a PPSh-41 with a 35 round | [[Image:Ppsh41-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PPSh-41 7.62x25mm Tokarev with 35-round box magazine]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-31305.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds a PPSh-41 with a 35-round box magazine.]] | |||
== | == AK-47 == | ||
During the movie the North Vietnamese Army (NVA) use genuine [[AK-47]]s with milled receivers. Victor Charlie (The official name NATO gave to the Vietcong) fighters also use AK-47s. The AK-47s used in the movie were built by the Movie's Armourer [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0660143/ Mike Papac]. | |||
[[Image:Ak 54.jpg|thumb|none|500px|AK-47 | [[Image:Ak 54.jpg|thumb|none|500px|AK-47 7.62x39mm]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-103898.jpg|thumb|none|600px|NVA soldiers fire their AK-47s.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-103898.jpg|thumb|none|600px|NVA soldiers fire their AK-47s.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-123086.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A NVA soldier moves in the dark with a AK-47.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-123086.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A NVA soldier moves in the dark with a AK-47.]] | ||
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[[Image:Vlcsnap-114077.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same NVA soldier from the above screencap gets thrown across a wagon. Notice how he has his [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pith_helmet Pith helmet] back on.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-114077.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same NVA soldier from the above screencap gets thrown across a wagon. Notice how he has his [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pith_helmet Pith helmet] back on.]] | ||
== M79 | == M79 Grenade Launcher == | ||
Various US soldiers can be seen carrying [[M79 grenade launcher]]s in a few scenes. Specialist Galen Bungum ([[Blake Heron]]) uses one since he is the grenadier of Sergeant Savage's squad. | Various US soldiers can be seen carrying [[M79 grenade launcher]]s in a few scenes. Specialist Galen Bungum ([[Blake Heron]]) uses one since he is the grenadier of Sergeant Savage's squad. | ||
[[Image:M79-Grenade-Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M79 grenade launcher | [[Image:M79-Grenade-Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M79 grenade launcher 40mm]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-41883.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier jumps from a chopper during training while carryng a [[M79 grenade launcher]].]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-41883.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier jumps from a chopper during training while carryng a [[M79 grenade launcher]].]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93589.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An American soldier fires his [[M79 grenade launcher]].]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-93589.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An American soldier fires his [[M79 grenade launcher]].]] | ||
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== MAS-36 Rifle == | == MAS-36 Rifle == | ||
In the opening scene where the French soldiers are ambushed during the French-Indochinese War, various french soldiers use [[MAS-36 | In the opening scene where the French soldiers are ambushed during the French-Indochinese War, various french soldiers use [[MAS-36]] rifles. | ||
[[Image:MAS36.jpg|thumb|none|500px| | [[Image:MAS36.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MAS-36 7.5x54mm French]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23252.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The French convoy gets ambushed.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-23252.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The French convoy gets ambushed.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23792.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two French soldiers armed with [[MAS-36 rifle]]s.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-23792.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two French soldiers armed with [[MAS-36 rifle]]s.]] | ||
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[[Image:Vlcsnap-31354.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A French soldier gets shot while holding a [[MAS-36 rifle]].]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-31354.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A French soldier gets shot while holding a [[MAS-36 rifle]].]] | ||
== Smith & Wesson | == Smith & Wesson Model 13 Aircrewman == | ||
The .38 caliber revolver pulled out by Maj. Bruce "Snake Shit" Crandall ([[Greg Kinnear]]) is most likely a Smith & Wesson M-13 Aircrewman, an unsuccessful lightweight aluminum-cylindered revolver designed for US military flyers. This was part of a generally badly thought-out push to make things from aluminum in the 1960s, also resulting in the M551 Sheridan's lightweight aluminum armour which could be penetrated by machine gun fire and a number of disastrous fires on warships with aluminum superstructures. In 2007, the real Crandall was awarded the Medal of Honor for his actions at the Battle of Ia Drang Valley. | The .38 caliber revolver pulled out by Maj. Bruce "Snake Shit" Crandall ([[Greg Kinnear]]) is most likely a Smith & Wesson M-13 Aircrewman, an unsuccessful lightweight aluminum-cylindered revolver designed for US military flyers. This was part of a generally badly thought-out push to make things from aluminum in the 1960s, also resulting in the M551 Sheridan's lightweight aluminum armour which could be penetrated by machine gun fire and a number of disastrous fires on warships with aluminum superstructures. In 2007, the real Crandall was awarded the Medal of Honor for his actions at the Battle of Ia Drang Valley. | ||
[[Image:Skt239.jpg|thumb|none|350px| | [[Image:Skt239.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith & Wesson M-13 .38 Special, demonstrating WHY the aluminum cylinder was unsuccessful.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113243.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The | [[Image:Vlcsnap-113243.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Model 13 in Snake Shit's holster when he gets out of his Huey at Regiment Headquarters.]] | ||
[[Image:Revolver WWS.JPG|thumb|none|600px|"You have the balls to face me and not the balls to face the enemy?" Crandall pulls his | [[Image:Revolver WWS.JPG|thumb|none|600px|"You have the balls to face me and not the balls to face the enemy?" Crandall pulls his Model 13 after he gets reprimanded by a medavac pilot.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113651.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the same scene.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-113651.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the same scene.]] | ||
== GE M134 Minigun == | == GE M134 Minigun == | ||
A pair of [[GE M134 Minigun]]s are seen mounted on the gunship Hueys that rip apart PAVN soldiers in the climax of the film, and one is also on display on a table near the beginning of the film. | A pair of [[GE M134 Minigun]]s are seen mounted on the gunship Hueys that rip apart PAVN soldiers in the climax of the film, and one is also on display on a table near the beginning of the film. | ||
[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|500px| | [[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|500px|GE M134 Minigun 7.62x51mm NATO]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-38494.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Aircav officers admire the M134 | [[Image:Vlcsnap-38494.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Aircav officers admire the M134 Minigun before Moore briefs them on their mission.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-114448.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One Huey helicopter fires it's mounted M134.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-114448.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One Huey helicopter fires it's mounted M134.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-117926.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A M134 Minigun mounted on a UH-1 helicopter.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-117926.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A M134 Minigun mounted on a UH-1 helicopter.]] | ||
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[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Thompson .45 ACP with 30-round box magazine.]] | [[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Thompson .45 ACP with 30-round box magazine.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-79844.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gary Owen! | [[Image:Vlcsnap-79844.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gary Owen! ARVN soldier with a M1928A1 Thompson as well as other U.S. soldiers cheer the rest of the 1st Cavalry as they prepare to enter the Ia Drang.]] | ||
== Browning M1919A4 == | == Browning M1919A4 == | ||
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Two [[Browning M1919|Browning M1919A4]]s can be seen mounted on French jeeps on the intro sequence. | Two [[Browning M1919|Browning M1919A4]]s can be seen mounted on French jeeps on the intro sequence. | ||
[[Image:BrowningM37MG.jpg|thumb|none|500px| | [[Image:BrowningM37MG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M1919 30-06]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-30185.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A French soldier fires the | [[Image:Vlcsnap-30185.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A French soldier fires the Browning M1919A4 at Viet Minh forces.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23377.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The | [[Image:Vlcsnap-23377.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Browning M1919A4 can be seen mounted on the jeep on the left.]] | ||
== MAT-49 == | == MAT-49 == | ||
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Various French Soldiers use [[MAT-49]] submachine guns during the opening Scene. Various NVA and VC soldiers use them during the rest of the movie, probably scavenged from French and South Vietnamese troops during the Indochina war. | Various French Soldiers use [[MAT-49]] submachine guns during the opening Scene. Various NVA and VC soldiers use them during the rest of the movie, probably scavenged from French and South Vietnamese troops during the Indochina war. | ||
[[Image:MAT-49.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A MAT-49 submachine gun | [[Image:MAT-49.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A MAT-49 submachine gun 9x19mm]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-22831.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A French soldier can be seen with a [[MAT-49]] in the center of the screencap.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-22831.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A French soldier can be seen with a [[MAT-49]] in the center of the screencap.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-165653.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A MAT-49 sits on the top of the pile of guns while US soldiers pile up dead NVA soldiers in the background.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-165653.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A MAT-49 sits on the top of the pile of guns while US soldiers pile up dead NVA soldiers in the background.]] | ||
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[[Image:Vlcsnap-126730.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier carrying the RPG-2 prepares to engage the American forces.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-126730.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier carrying the RPG-2 prepares to engage the American forces.]] | ||
== SKS | == SKS Rifle == | ||
Several Viet Minh soldiers and NVA soldiers use [[SKS rifle]]s during intro sequence and during the Battle of Ia Drang. | Several Viet Minh soldiers and NVA soldiers use [[SKS rifle]]s during intro sequence and during the Battle of Ia Drang. | ||
[[Image:Simonov-Russian-SKS45.jpg|thumb|none|500px| | [[Image:Simonov-Russian-SKS45.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SKS rifle 7.62x39mm]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-26996.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh soldiers rush the French in the intro of the movie. Note how you can see a Kar98k in the backround.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-26996.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh soldiers rush the French in the intro of the movie. Note how you can see a Kar98k in the backround.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-33261.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds his SKS to a French soldier]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-33261.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds his SKS to a French soldier]] | ||
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[[Image:Vlcsnap-28285.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier before being blown up by a French grenade.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-28285.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier before being blown up by a French grenade.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-28497.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh to the left-centre is armed with a SKS rifle.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-28497.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh to the left-centre is armed with a SKS rifle.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-77472.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A NVA soldier comes out of a underground base armed with | [[Image:Vlcsnap-77472.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A NVA soldier comes out of a underground base armed with an SKS rifle.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-49825.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier rushes the french during the intro.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-49825.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier rushes the french during the intro.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-75037.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A NVA or Vietcong soldier runs around with his SKS while the Ia Drang valley burns in the background by the napalm bombs dropped by United States Air Force planes.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-75037.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A NVA or Vietcong soldier runs around with his SKS while the Ia Drang valley burns in the background by the napalm bombs dropped by United States Air Force planes.]] | ||
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== Mosin Nagant M44 Carbine == | == Mosin Nagant M44 Carbine == | ||
[[Image:M44Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|500px| | During the intro sequence a Viet Minh soldier can be seen with a [[Mosin Nagant Rifle|Mosin Nagant M44 carbine]]. | ||
[[Image:M44Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mosin-Nagant M44 Carbine 7.62x54mm R]] | |||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-34173.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet minh soldier in the center of the screencap has a M44 carbine while the other Viet Minh soldier has a Kar98k.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-34173.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet minh soldier in the center of the screencap has a M44 carbine while the other Viet Minh soldier has a Kar98k.]] | ||
== Karabiner 98k == | == Karabiner 98k == | ||
A Viet Minh soldier during the intro sequence and a Vietcong soldier later on can be seen using [[Karabiner 98k]] rifles. | A Viet Minh soldier during the intro sequence and a Vietcong soldier later on can be seen using [[Karabiner 98k]] rifles. It should be noted that acording to one of the Armorers of the film, Steve Karnes, the Kar98ks used in the movie came from Israel and were chambered to 7.62x51mm NATO. | ||
[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | |||
[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k | |||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-34173.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Kar98K is carried by one of Viet Minh soldiers]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-34173.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Kar98K is carried by one of Viet Minh soldiers]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-70352.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Victor Charlie with a Kar98k.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-70352.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Victor Charlie with a Kar98k.]] | ||
== M1A1 Bazooka == | == M1A1 "Bazooka" == | ||
While it seems that a Viet Minh soldier using a Bazooka could be a anachronism, the French army widely used the M1A1, M9A1 | A Viet Minh soldier uses an [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M1A1 "Bazooka" (2.36" Rocket)|M1A1 "Bazooka"]] with a modified rear sight to destroy a French jeep during the intro sequence. While it seems that a Viet Minh soldier using a Bazooka could be a anachronism, the French army widely used the M1A1, [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M9A1 "Bazooka" (2.36" Rocket)|M9A1]] "Bazookas" and [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M20 "Super Bazooka" (3.5" Rocket)|M20 "Super Bazooka"]] during the Indochina War. The Viet Minh widely used scavanged French weapons during the Indochina War, and the PAVN and Vietcong also widely used them during the Vietnam War. | ||
[[Image:M1A1 Bazooka.jpg|thumb|none|500px| | [[Image:M1A1 Bazooka.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1A1 "Bazooka" 2.36 inch]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23699.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier fires at French soldiers with a M1A1 Bazooka. Note the modified rear sight and how it has only one grip.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-23699.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier fires at French soldiers with a M1A1 "Bazooka". Note the modified rear sight and how it has only one grip.]] | ||
== Degtyaryov DP-28 | == Degtyaryov DP-28 Machine Gun == | ||
[[Image:DP-28.jpg|thumb|none|500px| | In the scene where the men of the 1st Cavalry Division perform a bayonet charge against the NVA position (an event which actually didn't happen in real life), a small crew of PAVN soldiers man a DP-28, a varient of the Soviet [[Degtyarov DP Series Machine Gun|Degtyarov light machine gun]]. | ||
[[Image:DP-28.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Degtyaryov DP-28 7.62x54mm R]] | |||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-164041.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Degtyaryov DP-28 machine gun is glimpsed as Moore's troops advance.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-164041.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Degtyaryov DP-28 machine gun is glimpsed as Moore's troops advance.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-163052.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A DP-28 is seen among the fallen NVA soldiers as the Huey gunship continues to fire.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-163052.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A DP-28 is seen among the fallen NVA soldiers as the Huey gunship continues to fire.]] | ||
== Type 67 Grenade == | == Type 67 Grenade == | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-134626.jpg|thumb|none|600px| | A Chinese [[Type 67 hand grenade]] is thrown at the 1st Cavalry Division's position. | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-134626.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Type 67 hand grenade lands near a U.S. soldier]] | |||
== RPD Light Machine Gun == | == RPD Light Machine Gun == | ||
During the Battle of Ia Drang, one PAVN soldier can be seen carrying an [[RPD Light Machine Gun]]. | During the Battle of Ia Drang, one PAVN soldier can be seen carrying an [[RPD Light Machine Gun]]. | ||
[[Image:RPD-Light-Machine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px| | [[Image:RPD-Light-Machine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPD 7.62x39mm]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-72255.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier carries an [[RPD]] to the left of the screencap.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-72255.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier carries an [[RPD]] to the left of the screencap.]] | ||
== | == ZB26 Light Machine Gun == | ||
A [[ZB26 Machine GunZB26 machine gun]] is used by a Viet Minh machine gunner during the opening sequence of the film set during the Indochina War. Acording to Steve Karnes, The Movie's Armourer, the ZB26 used in the movie was sold to the Chinese and converted to 7.62x39 later in its life. It also has Chinese Characters on the side of the receiver. | |||
[[Image:ZB-26.jpg|thumb|none|500px|ZB26 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | |||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-34273.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Close Up of the ZB26 in the hands of a Viet Minh Soldier.]] | |||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-34330.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the same scene]] | |||
== MG34 Machine Gun== | |||
When the American Soldiers charge the NVA position, a two man crew of NVA soldiers man an [[MG34|MG34 machine gun]] before they get killed by the Huey helicopters. One NVA soldier also mans another MG34 in the same scene. | |||
When the American Soldiers charge the NVA position, a two man crew of NVA soldiers man an [[MG34|MG34 | |||
[[Image:Mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|500px| | [[Image:Mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MG34 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158234.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two NVA soldiers man a | [[Image:Vlcsnap-158234.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two NVA soldiers man a MG34 machine gun.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158338.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A different NVA machine gunner aims his MG34 at the oncoming American forces.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-158338.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A different NVA machine gunner aims his MG34 at the oncoming American forces.]] | ||
==Fake DShK== | ==Fake DShK Heavy Machine Gun== | ||
A [[DShK heavy machine gun | |||
[[Image:Browning-M2-Heavy-Barrel-w-Tripod.jpg|thumb|none|500px| | A [[DShK heavy machine gun]] is seen manned by an NVA machine gun team in the final battle before being wasted by the Huey helicopters. The DShK seen in the film is actually an [[Browning M2|Browning M2HB]] machine gun mocked up to look like a DShK. | ||
[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|500px| | |||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-157072.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PAVN soldier cocks the fake DShK in the final sequence of the movie. Note the | [[Image:Browning-M2-Heavy-Barrel-w-Tripod.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M2HB .50 BMG on M3 tripod]] | ||
[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|500px|DShK 12.7x109mm on tripod.]] | |||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-157072.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PAVN soldier cocks the fake DShK in the final sequence of the movie. Note the M2 charging handle in the right side of the receiver, showing that the DShK is actually an Browning M2HB.]] | |||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158101.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The NVA machine gun team from the above screencap aims the fake DShK.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-158101.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The NVA machine gun team from the above screencap aims the fake DShK.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-119805.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The | [[Image:Vlcsnap-119805.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M2HB after the machine gun team gets killed by the UH-1 Iroquois helicopters.]] | ||
== Browning Hi-Power Pistol == | == Browning Hi-Power Pistol == | ||
The use of the Browning Hi-Power pistol by the French Army in the movie is | During the Intro of the Movie set during the Indochina War, a French Officer uses his Siderarm, a [[Browning Hi-Power]] pistol, to kill several Viet Minh soldiers before being killed himself. The use of the Browning Hi-Power pistol by the French Army in the movie is an error. The Armourers couln't get French MAB pistols and since Hi-Powers were at the region the Armourers used those Hi-Powers instead. | ||
[[Image:BrowningHiPowerPistol9mm.jpg|thumb|none|500px| | |||
[[Image:BrowningHiPowerPistol9mm.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning Hi-Power 9x19mm]] | |||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-28610.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A French Army officer fires his [[Browning Hi-Power]] at a Viet Minh soldier.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-28610.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A French Army officer fires his [[Browning Hi-Power]] at a Viet Minh soldier.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-31533.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The French Officer gets bayoneted by a Viet Minh Officer.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-31533.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The French Officer gets bayoneted by a Viet Minh Officer.]] | ||
== M34 White Phosphorous Grenade == | == M34 White Phosphorous Grenade == | ||
[[Image:M34 2-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px| | In one scene, an wounded NVA soldier throws an [[M34 White Phosphorous grenade]] at Sergeant Forrester, severely wounding him. | ||
[[Image:M34 2-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M134 White Phosphorous grenade]] | |||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93657.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The NVA soldier, covered in blood and burn marks, pins the M34 grenade.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-93657.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The NVA soldier, covered in blood and burn marks, pins the M34 grenade.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-94126.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Forrester (Who is armed with an XM16E1 and an 7.62x51mm NATO Bullet belt.) gets his face burned by the M34.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-94126.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Forrester (Who is armed with an XM16E1 and an 7.62x51mm NATO Bullet belt.) gets his face burned by the M34.]] | ||
== Notes == | == Notes == | ||
There are several errors also in the uniforms of French troops. | There are several errors also in the uniforms of French troops. | ||
- 1) No lieutenant from "troupes de Marine" (2 golden horizontal stripes on bleu) whould have a white kepi (Kepi blanc for Foreign Legion soldiers only, excluding NCOs and officers) | - 1) No lieutenant from "troupes de Marine" (2 golden horizontal stripes on bleu) whould have a white kepi (Kepi blanc for Foreign Legion soldiers only, excluding NCOs and officers) | ||
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- 3) Insigna on the red berets are wrong (infantry instead of paratroopers) | - 3) Insigna on the red berets are wrong (infantry instead of paratroopers) | ||
Sorry, not hardware but military exactitude as well | Sorry, not hardware but military exactitude as well | ||
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The following weapons were used in the film We Were Soldiers:
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XM16E1
The XM16E1 assault rifle are used by the soldiers of the 1st Battalion, 7th Cavalry Regiment including Lieutenant Colonel Hal Moore (Mel Gibson), First Lieutenant Charlie Hastings (Robert Bagnell), Second Lieutenant Jack Geoghegan (Chris Klein), Sergeant Ernie Savage (Ryan Hurst) and most United States Army soldiers. Later on the film during the Battle of Landing Zone X-Ray, Joe Galloway (Barry Pepper) uses one as well. These were actual XM16E1s.
M1 Carbine
A Korean war era M1 Carbine is carried by the ARVN interpreter dressed in tiger stripe fatigues. He appears in the scene in which the NVA scout is captured and interrogated. Viet Minh soldiers also use them against the French during the intro.
M60 Machine Gun
The M60 machine gun is used by several US soldiers. Various door gunners use them as well.
M1911
A Colt M1911 is used by Command Sergeant Major Basil Plumley (Sam Elliott) as his main weapon since he prefers the .45 to the XM16E1, which he calls a "Piece of Plastic". It is anachronistic to see the first model of the M1911 being used by Plumley since the M1911 was replaced in 1924 by the improved M1911A1 which was the sidearm of the US Military in the Vietnam War, World War 2 and the Korean War. It could be that the M1911 was used to make Plumley more "Badass". As if a Sergeant Major that fought against a entire regiment of heavily armed NVA and a NFL Battalion armed only with an M1911A1 was not badass enough.
- No, he really did that-S&Wshooter 21:38, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
- Wait, Plumley actually carried a M1911 not an M1911A1 in the battle?--Oliveira 14:32, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
M1911A1
A Colt M1911A1 is seen in the holster of Lt. Col. Hal Moore and most of the soldiers of the 1st Cavalry Division that appear in the movie. Some soldiers use the M1911A1s.
M26 Hand Grenades
In several scenes, U.S. soldiers can be seen with M26 hand grenades strapped to their pouches.
PPSh-41
The NVA and the Vietcong use PPSh-41s submachine guns during the intro sequence and the rest of the movie, with both the standard drum magazine and 35-round box magazines.
AK-47
During the movie the North Vietnamese Army (NVA) use genuine AK-47s with milled receivers. Victor Charlie (The official name NATO gave to the Vietcong) fighters also use AK-47s. The AK-47s used in the movie were built by the Movie's Armourer Mike Papac.
M79 Grenade Launcher
Various US soldiers can be seen carrying M79 grenade launchers in a few scenes. Specialist Galen Bungum (Blake Heron) uses one since he is the grenadier of Sergeant Savage's squad.
MAS-36 Rifle
In the opening scene where the French soldiers are ambushed during the French-Indochinese War, various french soldiers use MAS-36 rifles.
Smith & Wesson Model 13 Aircrewman
The .38 caliber revolver pulled out by Maj. Bruce "Snake Shit" Crandall (Greg Kinnear) is most likely a Smith & Wesson M-13 Aircrewman, an unsuccessful lightweight aluminum-cylindered revolver designed for US military flyers. This was part of a generally badly thought-out push to make things from aluminum in the 1960s, also resulting in the M551 Sheridan's lightweight aluminum armour which could be penetrated by machine gun fire and a number of disastrous fires on warships with aluminum superstructures. In 2007, the real Crandall was awarded the Medal of Honor for his actions at the Battle of Ia Drang Valley.
GE M134 Minigun
A pair of GE M134 Miniguns are seen mounted on the gunship Hueys that rip apart PAVN soldiers in the climax of the film, and one is also on display on a table near the beginning of the film.
M1928A1 Thompson
As the American soldiers are heading off for battle you can see a South Vietnamese soldier holding up an M1928A1 Thompson with a 30-round magazine.
Browning M1919A4
Two Browning M1919A4s can be seen mounted on French jeeps on the intro sequence.
MAT-49
Various French Soldiers use MAT-49 submachine guns during the opening Scene. Various NVA and VC soldiers use them during the rest of the movie, probably scavenged from French and South Vietnamese troops during the Indochina war.
RPG-2
An NVA soldier wearing a gas mask uses an RPG-2 (Vietnamese made version was known as the B-40) to kill American soldiers.
SKS Rifle
Several Viet Minh soldiers and NVA soldiers use SKS rifles during intro sequence and during the Battle of Ia Drang.
Mosin Nagant M44 Carbine
During the intro sequence a Viet Minh soldier can be seen with a Mosin Nagant M44 carbine.
Karabiner 98k
A Viet Minh soldier during the intro sequence and a Vietcong soldier later on can be seen using Karabiner 98k rifles. It should be noted that acording to one of the Armorers of the film, Steve Karnes, the Kar98ks used in the movie came from Israel and were chambered to 7.62x51mm NATO.
M1A1 "Bazooka"
A Viet Minh soldier uses an M1A1 "Bazooka" with a modified rear sight to destroy a French jeep during the intro sequence. While it seems that a Viet Minh soldier using a Bazooka could be a anachronism, the French army widely used the M1A1, M9A1 "Bazookas" and M20 "Super Bazooka" during the Indochina War. The Viet Minh widely used scavanged French weapons during the Indochina War, and the PAVN and Vietcong also widely used them during the Vietnam War.
Degtyaryov DP-28 Machine Gun
In the scene where the men of the 1st Cavalry Division perform a bayonet charge against the NVA position (an event which actually didn't happen in real life), a small crew of PAVN soldiers man a DP-28, a varient of the Soviet Degtyarov light machine gun.
Type 67 Grenade
A Chinese Type 67 hand grenade is thrown at the 1st Cavalry Division's position.
RPD Light Machine Gun
During the Battle of Ia Drang, one PAVN soldier can be seen carrying an RPD Light Machine Gun.
ZB26 Light Machine Gun
A ZB26 Machine GunZB26 machine gun is used by a Viet Minh machine gunner during the opening sequence of the film set during the Indochina War. Acording to Steve Karnes, The Movie's Armourer, the ZB26 used in the movie was sold to the Chinese and converted to 7.62x39 later in its life. It also has Chinese Characters on the side of the receiver.
MG34 Machine Gun
When the American Soldiers charge the NVA position, a two man crew of NVA soldiers man an MG34 machine gun before they get killed by the Huey helicopters. One NVA soldier also mans another MG34 in the same scene.
Fake DShK Heavy Machine Gun
A DShK heavy machine gun is seen manned by an NVA machine gun team in the final battle before being wasted by the Huey helicopters. The DShK seen in the film is actually an Browning M2HB machine gun mocked up to look like a DShK.
Browning Hi-Power Pistol
During the Intro of the Movie set during the Indochina War, a French Officer uses his Siderarm, a Browning Hi-Power pistol, to kill several Viet Minh soldiers before being killed himself. The use of the Browning Hi-Power pistol by the French Army in the movie is an error. The Armourers couln't get French MAB pistols and since Hi-Powers were at the region the Armourers used those Hi-Powers instead.
M34 White Phosphorous Grenade
In one scene, an wounded NVA soldier throws an M34 White Phosphorous grenade at Sergeant Forrester, severely wounding him.
Notes
There are several errors also in the uniforms of French troops. - 1) No lieutenant from "troupes de Marine" (2 golden horizontal stripes on bleu) whould have a white kepi (Kepi blanc for Foreign Legion soldiers only, excluding NCOs and officers) - 2) The red berets are worne the wrong way (Insigna on the right in France for all the Army. Only exception French Navy Commando green berets) - 3) Insigna on the red berets are wrong (infantry instead of paratroopers) Sorry, not hardware but military exactitude as well