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::I am sorry, I too feel that they are somewhat inappropriate.  I realize that it is a movie, but these are not fictional characters, they are based on real people.  I feel those regarding the wounded are espiecially inappropriate.  If you wish to find hilarity, watch a comedy, this is a serious war film and this is a serious webpage regarding it, so let the content reflect that.  User:SAWGunner89|SAWGunner89]] 07:09, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
::I am sorry, I too feel that they are somewhat inappropriate.  I realize that it is a movie, but these are not fictional characters, they are based on real people.  I feel those regarding the wounded are espiecially inappropriate.  If you wish to find hilarity, watch a comedy, this is a serious war film and this is a serious webpage regarding it, so let the content reflect that.  User:SAWGunner89|SAWGunner89]] 07:09, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
::I actually had the idea of the descriptions because the movie is depressing as all hell.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:45, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
::I actually had the idea of the descriptions because the movie is depressing as all hell.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:45, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
== Safety First.  ==
Anyone notice that in two of the AK47 screencaps the safeties are on in combat situations?

Revision as of 02:32, 4 October 2009

About The ARVN Soldier

He's ARVN, note the beret The Winchester

You´r right. I Dont really know much about the ARVN. Oliveira

About the XM16A1

These are actually M16E1s, which were available to the men of the 1st Cavalry Division at the time of the Battle of Ia Drang and therefore not an anachronism. The M16E1 (sometimes also known as the XM16E1) was a variant of the M16 that featured a forward assist but maintained the three-pronged flashhider of the original M16. If you look closly in some of the posted photographs as well as throughout the film, this is readily apparent.SAWGunner89 20:50, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

You´r right too. I never noticed the forward assist on the pre-1967 M16.Oliveira

SKS Rilfes

You see an SKS here and there in the hands of North Vietnamese soldiers and on the pile of guns at the end of the film.

Need Help

I need help identifying the guns in those screencaps: The Mosin-Nagant is a Model 44 not sure about the country of origin but can check during the week. The Mauser is a K98K that came from Israel chamber for 7.62 NATO we used in the location. - Steve

(comment-Yeah the Mosin is a M44. I would recognize that gun anywhere.-S&Wshooter)

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I need help identifying the mosin-nagant that the Viet Minh is carrying in the centre and the mauser rifle the Viet Minh is carrying in the right side.
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I think the rifle the vietcong fighter is carrying in this screencap is the same mauser rifle from the screencap above.

Need Help identifying the rocket launcher in the screencap below. The Rocket Launcher is a M1A1 Bazooka it has only one forward grip and a modified rear sight.- Steve

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I need help identifying what kind of mosin-nagants are those in the screencaps below. These are M91/38 Carbines used on the show we also had M91/30 rifles.- Steve

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Steve, could you tell me at what part in the movie do M91/30 rifles appear? I didn't see them.Oliveira 18:58, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
We had them on the truck and issued them to background but not sure if they made it to the final cut. - Steve
Those two Mosin Nagants in the above pictures are M91/30 rifles or M91/38 rifles?Oliveira 13:04, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

I need help identifying the machine gun being carried by the Viet Minh soldier in the screencaps below.

It is a Czech ZB26 sold the the Chinese and was converted to 7.62x39 later in it's life. The weapon has Chinese characters on the side of the receiver.- Steve
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Note the mosin-nagant in the background.

I need help identifying the pistol that the french officer uses in the intro sequence. I will get back to you on this one later.- Steve

Went back and looked at the weapons list for the film it was a Browning Hi Power since we were unable to get a French MAB and HiPowers were in the region at that time. - Steve
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I need help identifying the grenade in the screencap below. The grenade is a Chinese Type 67 Hand Grenade.- Steve

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I need help identifying the machine gun carried by the NVA soldier in the left-centre of the screencap. I think it might be a RPD but i am not sure. The weapon is a RPD that the NVA soldier is carrying. Loaded many belts for the weapon during filming. - Steve

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I also need help identifying what kind of degtyaryov machine gun is in the screencaps below. The weapon is a DP-28 that we used on the show. - Steve

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I think i gonna need Steve to help me in this one.Oliveira 01:36, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Taken from the main article

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Joe Galloway(Barry Pepper) with his XM16E1 at the ready. He has a pretty good grip for someone that is not a soldier.
He was a non combatant Army soldier, who mostly likley fired that or the M14 during basic. He knows how to shoot. I.E. Saving Private Ryan."- Tyler Durden
Actually during the battle of Ia drang Joe Galloway carried a XM16E1 and a revolver for self-defense and before going in the battle he was trained on how to use it while in the movie he goes to the battlefield empty handed.Oliveira 16:37, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Mosin Rifles

I really feel for the poor sons of bitches that got stuck with the M44's. That gun is a monster to shoot and the bolt is the exact opposite of smooth-S&Wshooter 03:24, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

MG34

How did the VC get the German weapons?Did they get it from the Soviet Union who scavenged it from German troops during WW2? - Kenny99 02:23, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Yep, that's where they got the Kar98ks and MP40s. Both were common in the hands of NVA and Victor Charlie troops in the Nam. They also got some K98ks from China.-Oliveira 13:39, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Almost Finished

I'm almost finished with this. I only need to find out about the Mosin Nagants and put pictures of the Miniguns and the grenades and some other things.-Oliveira 17:03, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Screencap Describtions

Who added the stupid-ass describtions under the screencaps that have absolutly no relation to the movie? -The Winchester

I agree, Dumbass sarcastic remarks are stupid. Made by guys who like to belittle a film based on a single FRAME of film. BTW, people in the industry do look at this site, and those dumbass sarcastic comments do rub them the wrong way. MoviePropMaster2008 01:47, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
I did, because Oliveira asked me to when he was updating the article. To be honest, I wasn't that sure about some of them, though in many cases the captions they replaced were useless to the point of being insulting (describing what was obviously going on in the shot, typically, as if we write captions for the selectively blind). Also, pointing out people in the background are grinning like idiots does have something to do with the movie, much like pointing out people have very poor weapon handling skills does (and is done on many other pages). Vangelis 20:37, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Also, the captions are hilarious-S&Wshooter 20:39, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
I am sorry, I too feel that they are somewhat inappropriate. I realize that it is a movie, but these are not fictional characters, they are based on real people. I feel those regarding the wounded are espiecially inappropriate. If you wish to find hilarity, watch a comedy, this is a serious war film and this is a serious webpage regarding it, so let the content reflect that. User:SAWGunner89|SAWGunner89]] 07:09, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
I actually had the idea of the descriptions because the movie is depressing as all hell.--Oliveira 16:45, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Safety First.

Anyone notice that in two of the AK47 screencaps the safeties are on in combat situations?