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==Colt 1849 Pocket== | ==Colt 1849 Pocket== | ||
Madame Louise ([[Anjelica Huston]]) sells Carver a [[Colt 1849 Pocket]] model with a Confederate-style brass frame. | Madame Louise ([[Anjelica Huston]]) sells Carver a [[Colt 1849 Pocket]] model with a Confederate-style brass frame. This is anachronistic, as there were no Colt 1849 Pocket revolvers produced with brass frames historically. The gun used in the film is a modern, incorrect reproduction made in Italy, likely by Armi San Marco. It also appears to be a cartridge conversion, as evidenced by the lack of percussion nipples in the fourth photo below. It is generally not advised to convert brass-framed percussion revolvers to fire cartridges as brass frames are not capable of withstanding the pressure generated even by heavy percussion loads, let alone metallic cartridges. It is sometimes done in Hollywood however to allow the use of blank cartridges, which are relatively low pressure. | ||
[[Image:1849.31cal.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt 1849 Pocket .31 caliber]] | [[Image:1849.31cal.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt 1849 Pocket .31 caliber]] | ||
[[Image:Sf-1849-1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Madame Louise ([[Anjelica Huston]]) plies her trade.]] | [[Image:Sf-1849-1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Madame Louise ([[Anjelica Huston]]) plies her trade.]] | ||
Revision as of 23:58, 18 December 2023
The following weapons were used in the film Seraphim Falls:
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Henry 1860
Carver (Liam Neeson) carries an iron frame Henry 1860 rifle in the beginning of the film. The iron frame is what the first 400 Henry rifles were produced with (brass was added in late 1862 as production picked up).
Colt Dragoon
Carver (Liam Neeson) also carries a cartridge converted 2nd Model Colt Dragoon as his personal sidearm. Gideon (Pierce Brosnan) later takes it from him and uses it. It is a loading gate-only conversion, retaining the percussion loading lever. The use of a cartridge converted Colt Dragoon here is a sort of gray area from a historical accuracy standpoint considering the film's setting. While the Rollin White patent was still in effect in 1868, thus prohibiting Colt themselves from producing any cartridge-firing revolvers (excluding their attempted workaround with the front-loading Thuer Conversions), it is widely believed that "unauthorized" conversions were made in this period by individual gunsmiths on the frontier. Examples of such conversions being done on Dragoons have shown up (though it can't be nailed down exactly when the conversions were done), so a cartridge converted Colt Dragoon was possible in 1868. However, such a conversion would've been chambered in a rimfire round such as .44 Henry whereas Carver is shown loading centerfire cartridges into his in the film. This aspect is indeed anachronistic.
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Colt 1849 Pocket
Madame Louise (Anjelica Huston) sells Carver a Colt 1849 Pocket model with a Confederate-style brass frame. This is anachronistic, as there were no Colt 1849 Pocket revolvers produced with brass frames historically. The gun used in the film is a modern, incorrect reproduction made in Italy, likely by Armi San Marco. It also appears to be a cartridge conversion, as evidenced by the lack of percussion nipples in the fourth photo below. It is generally not advised to convert brass-framed percussion revolvers to fire cartridges as brass frames are not capable of withstanding the pressure generated even by heavy percussion loads, let alone metallic cartridges. It is sometimes done in Hollywood however to allow the use of blank cartridges, which are relatively low pressure.
Smith & Wesson Schofield
Hayes (Michael Wincott) carries what appears to be a Smith & Wesson Schofield, which would be anachronistic for this movie.
Carver is seen taking a Colt 1851 Navy off a railman when he's threatened by the foreman. Three clues point towards it being a percussion model and not a cartridge conversion: the loading lever is still attached (not a guarantee, but a good sign), you can just make out the indentation on the cylinder for the nipple (the big clue), and brass framed Navys never were/are/should-be converted to fire metallic cartridges.
The Colt 1851 Navy with a Richards-Mason cartridge conversion is seen in the hands of Parsons (Ed Lauter) as well as Charon (Wes Studi). Carver also is seen taking one off a railman when he's threatened by the foreman.
Springfield 1873 Trapdoor Carbine
In a flashback, Union cavalry under the command of Gideon (Pierce Brosnan) are seen armed with Trapdoor Springfield 1873 Carbine rifles.
Double Barreled Percussion Shotgun
A Double Barreled Percussion shotgun is seen in the hands of a young woman (Shannon Zeller) as well as the railway foreman McKenzy (Xander Berkeley).
