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==Colt Dragoon==
==Colt Dragoon==
Carver ([[Liam Neeson]]) also carries a cartridge converted 2nd Model [[Colt Dragoon]] .44 caliber as his personal sidearm. Gideon ([[Pierce Brosnan]]) later takes it from him and uses it. It is a loading-gate only conversion, retaining the percussion loading lever. The use of a cartridge converted Colt Dragoon here is a sort of gray area from a historical accuracy standpoint considering the film's setting. While the Rollin White patent was still in effect in 1868, thus prohibiting Colt themselves from producing any cartridge-firing revolvers (excluding their attempted workaround with the front-loading Thuer Conversions), it is widely believed that "unauthorized" conversions were made in this period by individual gunsmiths on the frontier. Examples of such conversions being done on Dragoons have shown up (though it can't be nailed down ''exactly'' when the conversions were done), so a cartridge converted Colt Dragoon was ''possible'' in 1868. However, such a conversion would've been chambered in a rimfire round such as .44 Henry whereas Carver is shown loading centerfire cartridges into his in the film. This aspect is indeed anachronistic.
Carver ([[Liam Neeson]]) also carries a cartridge converted 2nd Model [[Colt Dragoon]] as his personal sidearm. Gideon ([[Pierce Brosnan]]) later takes it from him and uses it. It is a loading-gate only conversion, retaining the percussion loading lever. The use of a cartridge converted Colt Dragoon here is a sort of gray area from a historical accuracy standpoint considering the film's setting. While the Rollin White patent was still in effect in 1868, thus prohibiting Colt themselves from producing any cartridge-firing revolvers (excluding their attempted workaround with the front-loading Thuer Conversions), it is widely believed that "unauthorized" conversions were made in this period by individual gunsmiths on the frontier. Examples of such conversions being done on Dragoons have shown up (though it can't be nailed down ''exactly'' when the conversions were done), so a cartridge converted Colt Dragoon was ''possible'' in 1868. However, such a conversion would've been chambered in a rimfire round such as .44 Henry whereas Carver is shown loading centerfire cartridges into his in the film. This aspect is indeed anachronistic.
[[Image:Colt1stDragoon-44Cal.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Dragoon - .44 caliber.]]
[[Image:Colt1stDragoon-44Cal.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Dragoon - .44 caliber.]]
[[Image:Dragoon-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Production still shows Carver holding his Dragoon on Gideon.]]
[[Image:Dragoon-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Production still shows Carver holding his Dragoon on Gideon.]]

Revision as of 23:45, 18 December 2023

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Seraphim Falls (2006)


The following weapons were used in the film Seraphim Falls:


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Henry 1860

Carver (Liam Neeson) carries an iron frame Henry 1860 rifle in the beginning of the film. The iron frame is what the first 400 Henry rifles were produced with (brass was added in late 1862 as production picked up).

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New Original Henry Iron Frame - .44-40 WCF. This is a modern replica of rare iron frame Henry 1860.
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Production still of Carver (Liam Neeson) carrying his Henry rifle.
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Liam in a promotional still that provides another view of the gun.
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Colt Dragoon

Carver (Liam Neeson) also carries a cartridge converted 2nd Model Colt Dragoon as his personal sidearm. Gideon (Pierce Brosnan) later takes it from him and uses it. It is a loading-gate only conversion, retaining the percussion loading lever. The use of a cartridge converted Colt Dragoon here is a sort of gray area from a historical accuracy standpoint considering the film's setting. While the Rollin White patent was still in effect in 1868, thus prohibiting Colt themselves from producing any cartridge-firing revolvers (excluding their attempted workaround with the front-loading Thuer Conversions), it is widely believed that "unauthorized" conversions were made in this period by individual gunsmiths on the frontier. Examples of such conversions being done on Dragoons have shown up (though it can't be nailed down exactly when the conversions were done), so a cartridge converted Colt Dragoon was possible in 1868. However, such a conversion would've been chambered in a rimfire round such as .44 Henry whereas Carver is shown loading centerfire cartridges into his in the film. This aspect is indeed anachronistic.

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Colt Dragoon - .44 caliber.
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Production still shows Carver holding his Dragoon on Gideon.
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Another production still holding the Dragoon.
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Carver pointing the Dragoon at Hayes. Note the conversion ring at the rear of the cylinder.
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Carver checking his empty Dragoon.
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Loading the Dragoon.
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Colt 1849 Pocket

Madame Louise (Anjelica Huston) sells Carver a Colt 1849 Pocket model with a Confederate-style brass frame. In the film it is a cartridge converted firearm, as evidenced by the lack of percussion nipples in the fourth photo below.

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Colt 1849 Pocket .31 caliber
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Madame Louise (Anjelica Huston) plies her trade.
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Another view of the pocket pistol.
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Production still of Carver pointing the pistol at Gideon.

Smith & Wesson Schofield

Hayes (Michael Wincott) carries what appears to be a Smith & Wesson Schofield, which would be anachronistic for this movie.

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Smith & Wesson Schofield Model 3 with nickel finish - .45 Schofield.
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A production still of Hayes being held by Gideon, Schofield holstered. Note that the belt is a "buscadero" style belt, which is also anachronistic (by about 70 years!).

Colt 1851 Navy

Carver is seen taking a Colt 1851 Navy off a railman when he's threatened by the foreman. Three clues point towards it being a percussion model and not a cartridge conversion: the loading lever is still attached (not a guarantee, but a good sign), you can just make out the indentation on the cylinder for the nipple (the big clue), and brass framed Navys never were/are/should-be converted to fire metallic cartridges.

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Colt 1851 Navy - .36 caliber.
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Colt 1851 Navy Richards-Mason Conversion

The Colt 1851 Navy with a Richards-Mason cartridge conversion is seen in the hands of Parsons (Ed Lauter) as well as Charon (Wes Studi). Carver also is seen taking one off a railman when he's threatened by the foreman.

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Colt 1851 Navy with Richards-Mason cartridge conversion - .38 Long Colt.
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The revolver is seen.
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The Colt 1851 Navy with a Richards-Mason cartridge conversion is seen in the hands of Charon (Wes Studi).

Springfield 1873 Trapdoor Carbine

In a flashback, Union cavalry under the command of Gideon (Pierce Brosnan) are seen armed with Trapdoor Springfield 1873 Carbine rifles.

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1873 Springfield Trapdoor Carbine - .45-70 Cal.
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Double Barreled Percussion Shotgun

A Double Barreled Percussion shotgun is seen in the hands of a young woman (Shannon Zeller) as well as the railway foreman McKenzy (Xander Berkeley).

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Double Barreled Percussion Shotgun - 10 Gauge
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A Double Barreled Percussion shotgun is seen in the hands of a young woman (Shannon Zeller)
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McKenzy (Xander Berkeley) with the shotgun.
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The railway foreman McKenzy (Xander Berkeley) holds the shotgun.