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::Is shooting the AKMS underwater impossible? -Sdawg44
::Is shooting the AKMS underwater impossible? -Sdawg44
:::Well since they actually did it in the movie, I'm assuming it is. After soaking under water so long, the powder in the bullets would be too damp to fire, so they must have submerged immediately before firing the gun. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::Well since they actually did it in the movie, I'm assuming it is. After soaking under water so long, the powder in the bullets would be too damp to fire, so they must have submerged immediately before firing the gun. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
[[Image:AKMS.jpg|thumb|450px|none|AKMS, stamped steel receiver w/ slant muzzle brake and under-folding stock - 7.62x39mm]]
:::Ammunition is fairly waterproof so the powder would be safe for a while. Any gun will fire once underwater but its unclear if it would fire full auto as is depicted in this movie. -[[User:sigger9mm|sigger9mm]][[Image:AKMS.jpg|thumb|450px|none|AKMS, stamped steel receiver w/ slant muzzle brake and under-folding stock - 7.62x39mm]]
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[[Image:LWunderwaterAK.jpg|thumb|600px|none|AKMS]]
[[Image:LW4_AK.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Detective Riggs with an [[AK-47#AKMS|Type 56-1]] underwater.]]
[[Image:LW4_AK.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Detective Riggs with an [[AK-47#AKMS|Type 56-1]] underwater.]]
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==Miscellaneous==
==Miscellaneous==

Revision as of 21:27, 10 August 2009

The following guns were used in the movie Lethal Weapon 4

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Lethal Weapon 4 (1998)

Beretta 92FS

As in all the previous Lethal Weapon films, Detective Martin Riggs (Mel Gibson) carries a Beretta 92FS as his weapon of choice, albeit this time fitted with a laser pointer integrated into the recoil spring plug, just under the end of the barrel. The laser site is somehow activated when Riggs touches the trigger, obvious in the scene where he kills one of the ship's thugs with a ricocheted shot.

At one point in the film, the pistol is rendered unusable when the lead villain, Wah Sing Ku (Jet Li), manages to field strip the pistol through crafty manipulation of the takedown lever although he seems to have reassembled it afterward because he is seen wielding it in the final shootout and at the end. The laser is in the grip. Look closely at the second screenshot.

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Beretta 92FS 9x19mm. This well worn movie gun is the actual Beretta 92FS used by Mel Gibson in the film. This was also the pistol used by Bruce Willis in Die Hard 2 and Die Hard with a Vengeance.
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You can see how the slide is falling off.
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Detective Riggs aims his Beretta 92FS at Wah Sing Ku's (Jet Li) head. Wah Sing Ku is carrying a Makarov PM. Note that in this photo, the takedown lever on the frame of the Beretta is rotated downward at a 90-degree angle; this is how Jet Li was able to separate the slide and barrel from the frame so quickly
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Smith & Wesson Model 19

As in all the previous Lethal Weapon films, Detective Roger Murtaugh (Danny Glover) carries a Smith & Wesson Model 19 revolver as his standard weapon.

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Smith & Wesson Model 19 .357 magnum. This is the actual Screen used Movie firearm - a custom ported Smith & Wesson Model 19 with black rubber grips, used and carried by Danny Glover in the film Lethal Weapon
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Comic relief
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Detective Roger Murtaugh firing his Smith & Wesson Model 19.
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Murtaugh shooting his Model 19 during the climax

OA-93

At the beginning of the film, Riggs and Murtaugh respond to a call of a man dressed in a fireproof suit wreaking havoc with a flame thrower and an OA-93.

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Olympic Arms 6.5" AR-15 pistol 5.56mm
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A man in a fireproof suit reloads his OA-93.
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What is interesting is that there is a small "pistol" buffer tube attached to the upper receiver of the OA-93. This feature is not part of the OA-93 design, which has a distinctive recoil assembly above the upper receiver which eliminates the need for a buffer tube with spring. Movie armorers had difficulty making the OA-93 cycle blanks, so they added the small buffer tube to the back of the gun, however the original gun doesn't have a buffer tube.

Beretta 92FS Compact Inox

A Beretta 92FS Compact Inox is holstered on the flamethrower psycho in the beginning of the film.

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Smith & Wesson 5906

As in the previous two Lethal Weapon films, Detective Murtaugh uses a Smith & Wesson 5906 as his back-up weapon. Detective Riggs also brandishes this weapon during the encounter at Murtaugh's house.

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Early Model Smith & Wesson 5906 9x19mm
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Detective Riggs with both his Beretta 92FS and Murtaugh's Smith & Wesson 5906
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Glock 17

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Glock 17 Early model

During the encounter at Murtaugh's house, one of the Chinese triad gang members, Fan(George Cheung) can be seen with a Glock 17, Lorna Cole (Rene Russo) laster manages to get the weapon away from him.

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Fan(George Cheung) takes Lorna Cole (Rene Russo) hostage with a Glock 17
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Flamethrower

At the beginning of the film, Riggs and Murtaugh respond to a call of a man dressed in a fireproof suit wreaking havoc with a flame thrower, torching anything that comes near.

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A man wreaks havoc with a Flamethrower on the streets of L.A.
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1911 Variant

Leo Getz(Joe Pesci) has a 1911 type pistol that he has acquired as he has become a "private detective". He tries to shoot a shark they caught on Murtaugh's boat before it is taken away by Riggs and thrown overboard.

This gun is in "commander" length, so assuming Leo purchased a genuine Colt, it is a Colt Commander.

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Gold Cup National Match M1911A1

In several scenes, a rookie officer, Detective Lee Butters (Chris Rock) can be seen wielding a stainless steel Gold Cup National Match M1911A1 as his standard weapon.

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Colt Gold Cup National Match -.45 ACP
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Detective Butters with his badge and Gold Cup National Match M1911A1
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Smith & Wesson 4506

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Smith & Wesson 4506 .45 ACP

When Leo is pulled over by a motorcycle cop for double parking the motorcycle cop is armed with an Smith & Wesson 4506

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Makarov PM

Several members of the Chinese triad can be seen wielding Makarov PM pistols, most notably during the encounter in Murtaugh's house. From closer examination of the pistols, it appears that the Makarovs used by the triads were Chinese-made Norinco copies of the Makarov PM.

You think?! It would only make too much sense for chinese thugs to be using chinese made weapons.

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Makarov PM 9x18mm PM
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Smuggler Captain shooting at Riggs
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A Makarov PM laying the floor of Murtaugh's home.

Type 56

PLA soldiers escorting the "4 fathers" are armed with Norinco Type 56s along with a smuggler.

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Norinco Type 56 (fixed stock variant) with under-folding bayonet ("pig sticker") which was standard on PLA-issue Type 56s - 7.62x39mm
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Norinco Type 56
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Smugglers shooting at Detective Murtaugh's boat
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PLA soldiers
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This one looks like it's actually missing it's pistol grip

AKM

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AKM, Stamped Steel Receiver w/ slant muzzle brake 7.62x39mm

Several of the PLA soldiers and the General's men are armed with AKMs.

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This AKM has open sights but a non slanted muzzle?
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AKM
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AKM
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AKM

Beretta Cheetah

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Beretta 84FS Pistol .380 ACP

When Riggs & Murtaugh reveal that the money being paid to the Chinese General is counterfeit he flips out and kills one of the 4 fathers with a Beretta Cheetah before being killed by Triad members. Several of the General's men use them as well.

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The Chinese General with a Beretta Cheetah
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One of the General's men

Beretta 92FS Inox

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Beretta 92FS Inox 9x19mm

Detective Ng(Calvin Jung) uses a Beretta 92FS Inox in the final shootout

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AKMS

Near the end of the film, a three-way gun battle erupts between the protagonists, Chinese triad members, and the private army of a corrupt Chinese General. The General's men can be seen wielding Type 56 and Type 56-1's, one of which Riggs gets ahold of to kill Wah Sing Ku (Jet Li), firing the weapon point-blank while both of them are underwater.

This is definitely either an East German MPi-KMS, or another AKM variant fitted with the East German-style folding stock. -MT2008
Is shooting the AKMS underwater impossible? -Sdawg44
Well since they actually did it in the movie, I'm assuming it is. After soaking under water so long, the powder in the bullets would be too damp to fire, so they must have submerged immediately before firing the gun. - Gunmaster45
Ammunition is fairly waterproof so the powder would be safe for a while. Any gun will fire once underwater but its unclear if it would fire full auto as is depicted in this movie. -sigger9mm
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AKMS, stamped steel receiver w/ slant muzzle brake and under-folding stock - 7.62x39mm
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AKMS
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Detective Riggs with an Type 56-1 underwater.
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Miscellaneous

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The AK in the hands of the PLA soldier has a strange pistol grip
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Unknown pistol in holster of standing cop
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Holster on exchange guard

Laser Trick

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It is doubtful that the laser would reflect off of that dull piece of metal and that the bullet would follow the exact same path

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