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The ones that know about think shit went down in Vietnam Like in Platoon with War Crimes commited by the US all over the place. Think that '''ALL''' US troops were addicted to drugs. Most don't know shit about the South Vietnamise and the Other Foreign armys that fought in the War. If they don't think like that then they are like me, they understand what happened. They are mostly Teachers and historians but there are a few that are young like me that know about stuff.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:23, 5 August 2009 (UTC) | The ones that know about think shit went down in Vietnam Like in Platoon with War Crimes commited by the US all over the place. Think that '''ALL''' US troops were addicted to drugs. Most don't know shit about the South Vietnamise and the Other Foreign armys that fought in the War. If they don't think like that then they are like me, they understand what happened. They are mostly Teachers and historians but there are a few that are young like me that know about stuff.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:23, 5 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Yeah, but come on, every character in ''Platoon'' is a US soldier, good or bad. They don't all take drugs. They don't all commit war crimes. You can't blame Stone for what stupid people see in his movie. It's not like, say, ''Tigerland'' where the directors outright said the psychotic recruit was the "kind of guy the Army wanted" because he'd be good at killing. Because, you know, a psycho would be perfect for filling out after-action reports or standing in a guard box all day or any of the myriad other duties a soldier has that don't involve shooting everyone he doesn't like, friend or foe. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 20:28, 5 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
Revision as of 20:28, 5 August 2009
GunMaster45 did an excellent job with the disclaimer, since this is such an insulting film to current and former veterans, that many don't even want to acknowledge it's existence. The next ASSHAT who removes or disparages this disclaimer will either get a tonguelashing from me (Especially those who either never served their country in uniform or are from a foreign country) or a ban if they persist. This was the best compromise and it satisfied people who are deeply offended by this film. MoviePropMaster2008 03:24, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
- Just to tell you something MPM, this movie offended me too. So did Platoon and Casualties of War. I'm going to Serve the United States when i start to live there. I completely understand the bullshit Oliver Stone and his buddy De Palma are spitting out. Like i said, they are bullshit. They are horrible movies even if they weren't hippie propaganda. I removed the disclaimer because we have various pro-hippie movies on this site. This movie, along with Platoon and Casualties of War is Fictional. They are Made up bullshit that the AMPAS and other retarded movie "academys" eat up. Besides, who the hell would think we support De Palma and his bullshit crusade pf filmmaking against the US Military? We are historians, gun nuts and conservatives. Anyone with a Brain knows we don't support this crap. Also, just because some people aren't from America, doesn't mean they don't know shit about the United States. A lot of times, people that weren't born in the United States, understand more about American than a lot of Americans themselves. Remember that.-Oliveira 14:46, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
- Platoon wasn't so bad, mainly because Stone was there [and decorated for it, in fact] and couldn't bring himself to outright say the guys he'd fought alongside were evil. You want a really and truly, totally insane hippie propaganda, try any of Tom Laughlin's Billy Jack movies or any time someone was stupid enough to let Seagal near a director's chair. Vangelis 15:02, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
- At least those are more pro-peace movies with Kung Fu moves and guns mixed in. Which is insane and totally hipocrital by the way and less Fuck the Troops anarchy bullshit.-Oliveira 15:20, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
- Platoon wasn't as offensive since it was based in real life incidents that Stone himself witnessed, plus the overall film wasn't an indictment against the entire U.S. military. It also was filmed some 12-13 years after we pulled out so there was no risk of backlash or violence against OUR forces, something DePalma doesn't realize. Casualties of War was again based on a real life incident and it again was made YEARS after the end of the war. Redacted is NOT, though it is loosely based on an actual incident, but we are still involved in that conflict and it is ridiculously irresponsible to foment hatred and violence against our own people during time of war. These are technically NOT pro hippie movies, or at least guys who are WAY OLDER THAN YOU don't see them that way. This was exceptionally offensive and I HAVE served, not just 'intend to serve when I get old enough' so take it from me. There is a vehement animosity against this film. So speak your peace. I'm glad you intend to serve the U.S. But don't fuck with the disclaimer on this particular movie. MPM20008
- Platoon wasn't so bad, mainly because Stone was there [and decorated for it, in fact] and couldn't bring himself to outright say the guys he'd fought alongside were evil. You want a really and truly, totally insane hippie propaganda, try any of Tom Laughlin's Billy Jack movies or any time someone was stupid enough to let Seagal near a director's chair. Vangelis 15:02, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
- You are gonna pull the Age Call, man? Shit. And those movies are hippie bullshit. Code Pink and the Like parade those around like they are goddam masterpieces of truth. and journalism. I ain't gonna fuck with the disclaimer.
- Talk to me after you've pulled your DD-214. Your view of Redacted may have changed regarding it's potential to harm and offend. And some Nam Vets were offended back in the 1980s, but I know of NO Vets that are raging against those films (platoon, casualties of war) now. They're so 1980s. And yes, but Code Pink doesn't have a MOVIE on imfdb. :) MPM2008
- I hate Platoon and the like because they disperse misinformation. Especially in countries other than America. For Example, Here in Brazil, there are Two types of people that that know about the Vietnam War:
1. They don't know about, Don't know it happened or Doesn't care about. 2. Knows about it.
The ones that know about think shit went down in Vietnam Like in Platoon with War Crimes commited by the US all over the place. Think that ALL US troops were addicted to drugs. Most don't know shit about the South Vietnamise and the Other Foreign armys that fought in the War. If they don't think like that then they are like me, they understand what happened. They are mostly Teachers and historians but there are a few that are young like me that know about stuff.-Oliveira 20:23, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, but come on, every character in Platoon is a US soldier, good or bad. They don't all take drugs. They don't all commit war crimes. You can't blame Stone for what stupid people see in his movie. It's not like, say, Tigerland where the directors outright said the psychotic recruit was the "kind of guy the Army wanted" because he'd be good at killing. Because, you know, a psycho would be perfect for filling out after-action reports or standing in a guard box all day or any of the myriad other duties a soldier has that don't involve shooting everyone he doesn't like, friend or foe. Vangelis 20:28, 5 August 2009 (UTC)