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I just watched a [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBEipGBUmuU forgotten weapons video] on this, and turns out that we (along with most of the internet) have the models of this gun screwed up. What we call the CZ Scorpion Evo 3 is actually the Laugo M8A, and the Evo 3 is split into the ''A'' and ''A1'' models which can actually be told apart most of the time as there are visible differences. To make matters worse though the civillian models are super confusing as there are corresponding ''S'' and ''S1'' version of the auto guns, but it seems that the early ''S1''s were using up remaining ''S'' and ''A'' parts so although marked ''S1'' they can still mostly have ''S'' features and parts. I'm going to try and sort it out but though I should explain here so incase anybody wonders what is going on. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 09:14, 8 August 2022 (EDT) | I just watched a [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBEipGBUmuU forgotten weapons video] on this, and turns out that we (along with most of the internet) have the models of this gun screwed up. What we call the CZ Scorpion Evo 3 is actually the Laugo M8A, and the Evo 3 is split into the ''A'' and ''A1'' models which can actually be told apart most of the time as there are visible differences. To make matters worse though the civillian models are super confusing as there are corresponding ''S'' and ''S1'' version of the auto guns, but it seems that the early ''S1''s were using up remaining ''S'' and ''A'' parts so although marked ''S1'' they can still mostly have ''S'' features and parts. I'm going to try and sort it out but though I should explain here so incase anybody wonders what is going on. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 09:14, 8 August 2022 (EDT) | ||
:That revelation about the A / A1 nomenclature difference is surprising, considering that CZ themselves have been referring the earlier A version as "A1" (heck, the weapon actually [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CZ_Scorpion_EVO_III.jpg has A1 markings]). By the way, I noticed that the Evo 3 A picture that we have on the page is [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udMoWLphjhE an early version] with a different folding stock mechanism compared to the production version. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 13:25, 8 August 2022 (EDT) | :That revelation about the A / A1 nomenclature difference is surprising, considering that CZ themselves have been referring the earlier A version as "A1" (heck, the weapon actually [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CZ_Scorpion_EVO_III.jpg has A1 markings]). By the way, I noticed that the Evo 3 A picture that we have on the page is [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udMoWLphjhE an early version] with a different folding stock mechanism compared to the production version. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 13:25, 8 August 2022 (EDT) | ||
::It may be the A1s are the same as the S1s in that the early versions have a mix of old and new parts. For example that one above has the new selector and hand stop, but the old sights and magazine catch. The receivers on these confuse me, as it seems bizare that at some point they altered the mould to change the markings from "CZ SORPION A" to "CZ SCORPION EVO 3 A1" but kept the old sling loop design, and then later did a new mould for the new sling loop design. I'm also starting to think that there may be a difference in the Czech guns and the guns that you get for CZ USA, as the current image on the CZ USA site for the Evo 3 A1 has the A style mag catch and a receiver that at first glance looks like an A as it has the sling slot, but the swivel hoop looks like it is beefed up so there may be something weird where the US receivers are actually different to the Czech ones. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:52, 8 August 2022 (EDT) | |||
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Why is called Evo 3? There are Evo and Evo 2 too? --Dannyguns (talk) 06:03, 3 December 2016 (EST)
- Very old question, but I came across soemthing the other day that might answer it. There was a prototype version of the Skoripion called the XCZ 868 that was in 9x19mm and tried to turn it into a full size SMG or carbine, and apparently this was referred to as the "Evo 2". It never went anywhere though, but when they made the "new" Scorpion they seem to have decided to jump off of this numbering.--commando552 (talk) 13:40, 29 June 2020 (EDT)
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I just watched a forgotten weapons video on this, and turns out that we (along with most of the internet) have the models of this gun screwed up. What we call the CZ Scorpion Evo 3 is actually the Laugo M8A, and the Evo 3 is split into the A and A1 models which can actually be told apart most of the time as there are visible differences. To make matters worse though the civillian models are super confusing as there are corresponding S and S1 version of the auto guns, but it seems that the early S1s were using up remaining S and A parts so although marked S1 they can still mostly have S features and parts. I'm going to try and sort it out but though I should explain here so incase anybody wonders what is going on. --commando552 (talk) 09:14, 8 August 2022 (EDT)
- That revelation about the A / A1 nomenclature difference is surprising, considering that CZ themselves have been referring the earlier A version as "A1" (heck, the weapon actually has A1 markings). By the way, I noticed that the Evo 3 A picture that we have on the page is an early version with a different folding stock mechanism compared to the production version. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 13:25, 8 August 2022 (EDT)
- It may be the A1s are the same as the S1s in that the early versions have a mix of old and new parts. For example that one above has the new selector and hand stop, but the old sights and magazine catch. The receivers on these confuse me, as it seems bizare that at some point they altered the mould to change the markings from "CZ SORPION A" to "CZ SCORPION EVO 3 A1" but kept the old sling loop design, and then later did a new mould for the new sling loop design. I'm also starting to think that there may be a difference in the Czech guns and the guns that you get for CZ USA, as the current image on the CZ USA site for the Evo 3 A1 has the A style mag catch and a receiver that at first glance looks like an A as it has the sling slot, but the swivel hoop looks like it is beefed up so there may be something weird where the US receivers are actually different to the Czech ones. --commando552 (talk) 17:52, 8 August 2022 (EDT)
