| Error creating thumbnail: File missing Join our Discord! |
| If you have been locked out of your account you can request a password reset here. |
Talk:Olympic Arms OA-93: Difference between revisions
Jump to navigation
Jump to search
StanTheMan (talk | contribs) mNo edit summary |
No edit summary |
||
| Line 4: | Line 4: | ||
This sounds inaccurate to me, given that Olympic Arms themselves (for many years) trumpeted the popularity of the OA-93 in movies (anyone who ever used to be on their email distro, back when they were around, knows what I mean), and I've seen at least a few Arfcom posts discussing their relationship with the movie armorer community. Also: 90% of the OA-93 movie/TV appearances that we documented on IMFDB are the same 2-3 guns from the Stembridge Gun Rentals inventory that were originally procured for ''[[Clear and Present Danger]]'' with the short custom buffer tubes (the exceptions are the guns from ''[[Bad Boys]]'', which were provided by ISS, and ''[[Lethal Weapon 4]]'' and ''[[Once Upon a Time in Mexico]]'', which came from Cinema Weaponry). Further, as we've seen from the receiver markings on the rubber version used in ''[[Batman Forever]]'' that was sold by Propstore, the Stembridge guns were actually OA-93 uppers on transferable M16A1 lower groups. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 23:18, 15 March 2022 (EDT) | This sounds inaccurate to me, given that Olympic Arms themselves (for many years) trumpeted the popularity of the OA-93 in movies (anyone who ever used to be on their email distro, back when they were around, knows what I mean), and I've seen at least a few Arfcom posts discussing their relationship with the movie armorer community. Also: 90% of the OA-93 movie/TV appearances that we documented on IMFDB are the same 2-3 guns from the Stembridge Gun Rentals inventory that were originally procured for ''[[Clear and Present Danger]]'' with the short custom buffer tubes (the exceptions are the guns from ''[[Bad Boys]]'', which were provided by ISS, and ''[[Lethal Weapon 4]]'' and ''[[Once Upon a Time in Mexico]]'', which came from Cinema Weaponry). Further, as we've seen from the receiver markings on the rubber version used in ''[[Batman Forever]]'' that was sold by Propstore, the Stembridge guns were actually OA-93 uppers on transferable M16A1 lower groups. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 23:18, 15 March 2022 (EDT) | ||
: Seems like that was added very early on the page by MPM soo.. guess you'll need to ask him. I think it's less implying OA-93s weren't used and more a general blurb noting that not all ultrashort AR 'pistols' are genuine OA's.. Even then still seems a bit out of place - maybe not so much then in the site's relative infancy where specific IDs on these might have been dodgier, but much moreso now. Eh. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 21:12, 16 March 2022 (EDT) | : Seems like that was added very early on the page by MPM soo.. guess you'll need to ask him. I think it's less implying OA-93s weren't used and more a general blurb noting that not all ultrashort AR 'pistols' are genuine OA's.. Even then still seems a bit out of place - maybe not so much then in the site's relative infancy where specific IDs on these might have been dodgier, but much moreso now. Eh. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 21:12, 16 March 2022 (EDT) | ||
::Gotcha, that explanation makes sense, but then we should probably clarify what we really meant. I remember that in the early days of the Gunterweb (early-2000s), I used to see people confuse the OA-93 with the Rocky Mountain Arms Patriot Pistol on a regular basis, too. | |||
::I do think a fair point to mention is the fact that pretty much every OA-93 appearance we've ever documented is actually an OA-93 upper receiver group on another manufacturer's lower group (in the case of the Stembridge guns: an M16A1 lower group), because the OA-93 pistol lower did not come (from the factory) with either the hole or threading for installing a receiver extension - which is not ideal when the auto sear needs additional space via the extension (as we explain on the page). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 19:18, 23 March 2022 (EDT) | |||
Latest revision as of 23:18, 23 March 2022
Where did this info come from?
Most AR-15 pistols seen in television and movies may either be a Freedom Arms 7" AR-15 Pistol or the same gun as a kit built on another manufacturer's registered full auto lower receiver, or the Olympic Arms OA-93.
This sounds inaccurate to me, given that Olympic Arms themselves (for many years) trumpeted the popularity of the OA-93 in movies (anyone who ever used to be on their email distro, back when they were around, knows what I mean), and I've seen at least a few Arfcom posts discussing their relationship with the movie armorer community. Also: 90% of the OA-93 movie/TV appearances that we documented on IMFDB are the same 2-3 guns from the Stembridge Gun Rentals inventory that were originally procured for Clear and Present Danger with the short custom buffer tubes (the exceptions are the guns from Bad Boys, which were provided by ISS, and Lethal Weapon 4 and Once Upon a Time in Mexico, which came from Cinema Weaponry). Further, as we've seen from the receiver markings on the rubber version used in Batman Forever that was sold by Propstore, the Stembridge guns were actually OA-93 uppers on transferable M16A1 lower groups. -MT2008 (talk) 23:18, 15 March 2022 (EDT)
- Seems like that was added very early on the page by MPM soo.. guess you'll need to ask him. I think it's less implying OA-93s weren't used and more a general blurb noting that not all ultrashort AR 'pistols' are genuine OA's.. Even then still seems a bit out of place - maybe not so much then in the site's relative infancy where specific IDs on these might have been dodgier, but much moreso now. Eh. StanTheMan (talk) 21:12, 16 March 2022 (EDT)
- Gotcha, that explanation makes sense, but then we should probably clarify what we really meant. I remember that in the early days of the Gunterweb (early-2000s), I used to see people confuse the OA-93 with the Rocky Mountain Arms Patriot Pistol on a regular basis, too.
- I do think a fair point to mention is the fact that pretty much every OA-93 appearance we've ever documented is actually an OA-93 upper receiver group on another manufacturer's lower group (in the case of the Stembridge guns: an M16A1 lower group), because the OA-93 pistol lower did not come (from the factory) with either the hole or threading for installing a receiver extension - which is not ideal when the auto sear needs additional space via the extension (as we explain on the page). -MT2008 (talk) 19:18, 23 March 2022 (EDT)