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Does anybody know what the correct terminology for the different generations of this gun is? As far as I can tell there are currently 3 different generations of this gun. The first is the one that is what all the variants on the main page are. Then there is a second one where the SIGMod handguard was changed to aluminium rather than carbon fibre, steel inserts were added through the left side of the receiver for the bolt cam pin, the lower was redesigned slightly and has a different safety, mag release and an ambi bolt catch, and the stock is different being thicker and having a slight slope to it. The third model is similar to the second, but introduced a Keymod handgaurd, scalloped the top rail like on the MCX, and the upper was internally redesigned to take calibre conversion kits. According to [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp7WmEPyu_k this video] from SIG, the latter two version are the Gen 1 and Gen 2 respectively, but what does that make the first one that all are images are of? Was this a prototype that was never actually released, or is it just a very early pre-Gen 1 commercially available variant? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 07:36, 27 April 2017 (EDT) | Does anybody know what the correct terminology for the different generations of this gun is? As far as I can tell there are currently 3 different generations of this gun. The first is the one that is what all the variants on the main page are. Then there is a second one where the SIGMod handguard was changed to aluminium rather than carbon fibre, steel inserts were added through the left side of the receiver for the bolt cam pin, the lower was redesigned slightly and has a different safety, mag release and an ambi bolt catch, and the stock is different being thicker and having a slight slope to it. The third model is similar to the second, but introduced a Keymod handgaurd, scalloped the top rail like on the MCX, and the upper was internally redesigned to take calibre conversion kits. According to [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp7WmEPyu_k this video] from SIG, the latter two version are the Gen 1 and Gen 2 respectively, but what does that make the first one that all are images are of? Was this a prototype that was never actually released, or is it just a very early pre-Gen 1 commercially available variant? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 07:36, 27 April 2017 (EDT) | ||
:What's even more confusing is that the specific version shown in our earliest images doesn't seem to have ever been shown in actual demonstrations. All live-firing versions of the prototype | :What's even more confusing is that the specific version shown in our earliest images doesn't seem to have ever been shown in actual demonstrations. All live-firing versions of the prototype MPX shown in videos (notably at SHOT Show 2013) have some differences, including an altered stock and a handguard nearly identical to that of the Gen 1 MPX. I wonder what we should call it, a "second prototype"? I'll go with this for now as I'm making the necessary changes. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 15:03, 24 February 2019 (EST) | ||
::Okay, I did some digging and came across [https://web.archive.org/web/20121127235510/http://www.sigsauerguns.com/product-highlights/sigs-new-smg/ this old link], and it turns out the earliest images | ::Okay, I did some digging and came across [https://web.archive.org/web/20121127235510/http://www.sigsauerguns.com/product-highlights/sigs-new-smg/ this old link], and it turns out the earliest images indeed represented an older prototype displayed at AUSA 2012. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) | ||
:::Now we have a 3rd generation version of the MPX (unveiled sometime in 2019, I believe). In addition to the M-LOK handguard (which some earlier versions also had), the cam plate on the left side is noticeably narrower, and there are two less diagonal holes above the handguard. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 11:38, 23 November 2021 (EST) | :::Now we have a 3rd generation version of the MPX (unveiled sometime in 2019, I believe). In addition to the M-LOK handguard (which some earlier versions also had), the cam plate on the left side is noticeably narrower, and there are two less diagonal holes above the handguard. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 11:38, 23 November 2021 (EST) | ||
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Additional Variants
Discussion
This series looks like the MP5 and an AR-15 had a child...--Death Shadow20 (talk) 15:54, 30 August 2016 (EDT)
Shouldn't the MCX get it's own page? Excalibur01 (talk) 16:16, 30 August 2016 (EDT)
- Normally it should, I believe, but the thing is that it doesn't have any listed media appearance. It does appear in a video game, but its page lacked screencaps, and thus was deleted. According to the user who made it, the worthy screenshots are the in-game pictures of every weapon since it's a top-down 2D tactical game. Since the VG page's content (still present in the storage) features good descriptions of the weapons, if we upload the aforementioned weapons menu icons coupled with this then I think the page could be eligible.
- If it isn't, I thought we'd put the image here for now, otherwise we just keep it in the SIG-Sauer page.
- --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 18:00, 30 August 2016 (EDT)
- Now the MCX appears in other media; I've created a page for it. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 09:16, 28 November 2016 (EST)
Different Generations?
Does anybody know what the correct terminology for the different generations of this gun is? As far as I can tell there are currently 3 different generations of this gun. The first is the one that is what all the variants on the main page are. Then there is a second one where the SIGMod handguard was changed to aluminium rather than carbon fibre, steel inserts were added through the left side of the receiver for the bolt cam pin, the lower was redesigned slightly and has a different safety, mag release and an ambi bolt catch, and the stock is different being thicker and having a slight slope to it. The third model is similar to the second, but introduced a Keymod handgaurd, scalloped the top rail like on the MCX, and the upper was internally redesigned to take calibre conversion kits. According to this video from SIG, the latter two version are the Gen 1 and Gen 2 respectively, but what does that make the first one that all are images are of? Was this a prototype that was never actually released, or is it just a very early pre-Gen 1 commercially available variant? --commando552 (talk) 07:36, 27 April 2017 (EDT)
- What's even more confusing is that the specific version shown in our earliest images doesn't seem to have ever been shown in actual demonstrations. All live-firing versions of the prototype MPX shown in videos (notably at SHOT Show 2013) have some differences, including an altered stock and a handguard nearly identical to that of the Gen 1 MPX. I wonder what we should call it, a "second prototype"? I'll go with this for now as I'm making the necessary changes. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 15:03, 24 February 2019 (EST)
- Okay, I did some digging and came across this old link, and it turns out the earliest images indeed represented an older prototype displayed at AUSA 2012. --Ultimate94ninja (talk)
- Now we have a 3rd generation version of the MPX (unveiled sometime in 2019, I believe). In addition to the M-LOK handguard (which some earlier versions also had), the cam plate on the left side is noticeably narrower, and there are two less diagonal holes above the handguard. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 11:38, 23 November 2021 (EST)
- Okay, I did some digging and came across this old link, and it turns out the earliest images indeed represented an older prototype displayed at AUSA 2012. --Ultimate94ninja (talk)
The MPX seems to be replacing the MP5
The MP5 is still a very iconic submachine gun that will hardly be forgotten, but to me most movies and games recently seem to favor the MPX in the "generic 9mm SMG" role. John Wick 3, GTA V, TLOU 2 and Valorant just to name a few. --Dan San (talk) 22:01, 18 August 2020 (EDT)
- It looks like the MPX is the MP5 of the current era. The MP5 is quite oldschool to be honest, maybe H&K should do something about this situation. --Nanomat (talk) 22:16, 18 August 2020 (EDT)
- Well, they kinda did with the UMP, and the UMP45 is pretty popular in games at least (most military and police forces nowadays prefer PDWs or compact assault rifles tho). And I agree, esthetically speaking the MP5 really is showing its age. The MPX looks more modern. --Dan San (talk) 07:12, 19 August 2020 (EDT)