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==Additional Images==
==Additional Images==
[[File:PP-19-01 Vityaz.jpg|thumb|none|450px|PP-19-01 "Vityaz"  - 9x19mm]]
[[File:PP-19-01 Vityaz.jpg|thumb|none|450px|PP-19-01 "Vityaz"  - 9x19mm]]
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[[File:PPK-20 2021.jpg|thumb|none|450px|PPK-20, 2021 version - 9x19mm]]
[[File:PPK-20 2021.jpg|thumb|none|450px|PPK-20, 2021 version - 9x19mm]]
[[File:PSA AK-V.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Palmetto State Armory AK-V with side folding triangle brace - 9x19mm]]
[[File:PSA AK-V.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Palmetto State Armory AK-V with side folding triangle brace - 9x19mm]]
===Images===
Images of looks to be every PP-19 version here: http://bbs.a9vg.com/thread-1157089-1-1.html
The Tokarev version with the curved mag and the 10-round .380 ACP mag are at the bottom of the first post. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 07:18, 17 June 2011 (CDT)


==Discussion==
==Discussion==
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:Sounds good. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 23:47, 19 February 2014 (EST)
:Sounds good. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 23:47, 19 February 2014 (EST)
::Well at least it didn't ''quite'' take four years to do that :D [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 12:40, 18 February 2018 (EST)
::Well at least it didn't ''quite'' take four years to do that :D [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 12:40, 18 February 2018 (EST)
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=Discussion=


===Killzone===
Doesn't this gun appear in a fictional variant form in Killzone 2?
Doesn't this gun appear in a fictional variant form in Killzone 2?
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u76/Edizzle8002/killzonesmg11fu2.jpg
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u76/Edizzle8002/killzonesmg11fu2.jpg


Judging from the reciever and sights, it looks more like some Uzi with the grip moved back and a helical magazine whacked in. Kinda ugly IMO.
Judging from the reciever and sights, it looks more like some Uzi with the grip moved back and a helical magazine whacked in. Kinda ugly IMO.
== Images ==
Images of looks to be every PP-19 version here: http://bbs.a9vg.com/thread-1157089-1-1.html
The Tokarev version with the curved mag and the 10-round .380 ACP mag are at the bottom of the first post. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 07:18, 17 June 2011 (CDT)

Revision as of 11:37, 25 January 2022

Additional Images

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PP-19-01 "Vityaz" - 9x19mm
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PP-19-01 "Vityaz-SN" with Zenit accessories - 9x19mm
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PPK-20 ("Vityaz-MO") with suppressor, 2020 version - 9x19mm
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PPK-20, 2021 version - 9x19mm
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Palmetto State Armory AK-V with side folding triangle brace - 9x19mm

Images

Images of looks to be every PP-19 version here: http://bbs.a9vg.com/thread-1157089-1-1.html

The Tokarev version with the curved mag and the 10-round .380 ACP mag are at the bottom of the first post. Evil Tim 07:18, 17 June 2011 (CDT)

Discussion

Vityaz is a derivative of Izhmash PP-19 Bizon, it differs only in replacing of a helical-feed magazine with a more common stick magazine. I think that Vityaz must be merged into Bizon page which in turn be renamed into "Izhmash PP-19" with subheaders "PP-19 Bizon" and "PP-19-01 Vityaz". Greg-Z (talk) 22:03, 19 February 2014 (EST)

Sounds good. --Funkychinaman (talk) 23:47, 19 February 2014 (EST)
Well at least it didn't quite take four years to do that :D Evil Tim (talk) 12:40, 18 February 2018 (EST)

Killzone

Doesn't this gun appear in a fictional variant form in Killzone 2? http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u76/Edizzle8002/killzonesmg11fu2.jpg

Judging from the reciever and sights, it looks more like some Uzi with the grip moved back and a helical magazine whacked in. Kinda ugly IMO.