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::I'd go with the article over the video, I think Ian does these videos from memory rather than reading a script and something like "600 M1916s and 400 carbines" can easily become "they made 600 and 400 were carbines"." [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 09:22, 21 April 2018 (EDT) | ::I'd go with the article over the video, I think Ian does these videos from memory rather than reading a script and something like "600 M1916s and 400 carbines" can easily become "they made 600 and 400 were carbines"." [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 09:22, 21 April 2018 (EDT) | ||
:::Fair enough, but I'm pretty sure that the magazine capacity is 20 rounds, considering how it's, as far as anyone can tell, basically an [[MG13]] magazine (although, considering the dates involved, it might be more appropriate to say that the MG13 uses Mauser magazines). Thoughts? [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 09:31, 21 April 2018 (EDT) | :::Fair enough, but I'm pretty sure that the magazine capacity is 20 rounds, considering how it's, as far as anyone can tell, basically an [[MG13]] magazine (although, considering the dates involved, it might be more appropriate to say that the MG13 uses Mauser magazines). Thoughts? [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 09:31, 21 April 2018 (EDT) | ||
::::20 rounds are on 06-08 (I specifically compared to scale). Interestingly, a similar magazine will be released for the regular bolt action Gew.98 in WWI. Magazine for 25 rounds, because contrary to the claims of advertising agents, it is the same design. The only difference is that the MG13 variant has an additional "tooth" on the front. Look, don't be confused they, lol. A similar, but not compatible design is Fedorov, because he studied a carbine captured in France in 1916. I also think that the very first automatic rifles of Fedorov (6.5mm) should have had simpler magazines without stamping this sample, but these, unfortunately, did not survive. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 18:47, 12 September 2021 (EDT) | |||
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This weapon looks absolutely fantastic! I wonder how this performed in the field?... --Warejaws (talk) 16:02, 6 March 2014 (EST)
- If I recall, the rounds had to be oiled, which is a dealbreaker for field use. The only people who used it were Zeppelin crews. --Funkychinaman (talk) 16:06, 6 March 2014 (EST)
Confusion
Forgotten weapons did an article and a video on the weapon. The problem here is that there seems to be some conflicts between these sources:
- Ian says only about 600 M1916s were made, 400 being carbines and the rest rifles. The article instead says that 1000 M1916s were made.
- Ian says the weapon uses 25-round magazines, while the article says 20-round detachable magazine were introduced
- There seems to be some confusion over the name of the "Rifle variant". The article says that the rifle was also known as "06/08 rifle" while the video gave no mention of this name. The article specified the "Selbstlader-Karabiner Mauser M 1916" name as the refined carbine version of the 06/08 rifle, while Ian in the video just calls the long rifle version the M1916.
- I'd go with the article over the video, I think Ian does these videos from memory rather than reading a script and something like "600 M1916s and 400 carbines" can easily become "they made 600 and 400 were carbines"." Evil Tim (talk) 09:22, 21 April 2018 (EDT)
- Fair enough, but I'm pretty sure that the magazine capacity is 20 rounds, considering how it's, as far as anyone can tell, basically an MG13 magazine (although, considering the dates involved, it might be more appropriate to say that the MG13 uses Mauser magazines). Thoughts? Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 09:31, 21 April 2018 (EDT)
- 20 rounds are on 06-08 (I specifically compared to scale). Interestingly, a similar magazine will be released for the regular bolt action Gew.98 in WWI. Magazine for 25 rounds, because contrary to the claims of advertising agents, it is the same design. The only difference is that the MG13 variant has an additional "tooth" on the front. Look, don't be confused they, lol. A similar, but not compatible design is Fedorov, because he studied a carbine captured in France in 1916. I also think that the very first automatic rifles of Fedorov (6.5mm) should have had simpler magazines without stamping this sample, but these, unfortunately, did not survive. --Slon95 (talk) 18:47, 12 September 2021 (EDT)
- Fair enough, but I'm pretty sure that the magazine capacity is 20 rounds, considering how it's, as far as anyone can tell, basically an MG13 magazine (although, considering the dates involved, it might be more appropriate to say that the MG13 uses Mauser magazines). Thoughts? Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 09:31, 21 April 2018 (EDT)
- I'd go with the article over the video, I think Ian does these videos from memory rather than reading a script and something like "600 M1916s and 400 carbines" can easily become "they made 600 and 400 were carbines"." Evil Tim (talk) 09:22, 21 April 2018 (EDT)