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Christian Klar ([[Daniel Lommatzsch]]) uses a [[Mossberg 500]] with a sawed down 16" barrel and open blade sights during the kidnapping of Hanns-Martin Schleyer.  
Christian Klar ([[Daniel Lommatzsch]]) uses a [[Mossberg 500]] with a sawed down 16" barrel and open blade sights during the kidnapping of Hanns-Martin Schleyer.  
--The real terrorists used a High Standard riot gun.
[[Image:Mossberg500.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Mossberg 500 - 12 Gauge.]]
[[Image:Mossberg500.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Mossberg 500 - 12 Gauge.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-89733.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Christian Klar fires his Mossberg 500 shotgun.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-89733.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Christian Klar fires his Mossberg 500 shotgun.]]

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The Baader Meinhof Complex (2008) - U.K. DVD cover

The Baader Meinhof Complex is a 2008 German film which depicts the history of Germany's radical leftist Red Army Faction (otherwise known as the Baader Meinhof Gang) in the 1960s and 1970s. It was nominated in the 2009 Academy Awards for Best Foreign Language Film. Bernd Eichinger, the film's producer and screenwriter, had previously worked on Downfall (Der Untergang), and two of the leading actors from that movie, Bruno Ganz and Alexandra Maria Lara, have supporting roles in this film.

The following guns were seen in this film:




Walther PP

Most of the Federal German police officers in the film are armed with Walther PP pistols, including the officer who shoots and kills Benno Ohnesorg (Martin Glade) during the demonstration against the Shah of Iran at the Berlin Opera. After being arrested and taken to interrogation, a PP is dropped in front of Holger Meins (Stipe Erceg), and the officers dare him to fight his way out with it.

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Walther PP - .380 ACP.
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A police officer shoots Benno Ohnesorg early in the film with a Walther PP.
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Another police officer fires upon Petra Schelm with a PP.
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An officer drops his Walther PP in front of Holger Meins after he has been arrested.


Colt Detective Special

During the depiction of the attempted killing of Rudi Dutschke (Sebastian Blomberg), the would-be killer uses a small revolver which appears to be a Colt Detective Special. It appears this revolver is also used by some of the RAF members.

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Rudi Dutscke's attempted killer fires his revolver (a Colt Detective Special) at him.
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The killer then fires the Detective Special at pursuing police officers.
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A female RAF terrorist holds up a bank with a 1911 in one hand and a Detective Special in the other.


It seems to be some kind of Weihrauch, a german manufactured revolver, cheap and popular in those days.

SIG P210

Several of the RAF terrorists are shown to use SIG P210 pistols throughout the movie. Andreas Baader (Moritz Bleibtreu uses one in the shootout with the police which leads to his arrest.

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SIG P210 - 9 mm
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Andreas Baader fires at the police with his SIG P210.
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A pair of SIG P210s sit next to Ulrike Meinhof's typewriter when the police raid her dwelling.
I think the bottom handgun is a 1911- S&Wshooter


is it just me or does the first pic look like a Colt 1911 model???

Browning Hi-Power

A number of Browning Hi-Power pistols are also used by RAF members.

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Classic Commercial Browning Hi Power (Belgian Mfg) - 9x19mm
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An RAF member with a Browning HP during a bank robbery.
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Holger Meins takes cover from the police with his Browning Hi-Power in hand.


ERMA-Werke Model E M1

When the RAF is freeing Andreas Baader (Moritz Bleibtreu) from police custody while he's being interviewed by Ulrike Meinhof (Martina Gedeck), Gudrun Ensslin (Johanna Wokalek) uses an ERMA-Werke Model E M1 .22 LR self-loading rimfire rifle with a sawed-off barrel and stock

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ERMA-Werke Model E M1 .22 LR
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Gudrun Ensslin cocks her ERMA-Werke Model E M1 before the jailbreak of Andreas Baader.
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Ensslin holds her ERMA-Werke Model E M1 on a police officer.
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Ensslin flees with the ERMA-Werke Model E M1 in hand.


AKM

All of the RAF members are seen training on AKM assault rifles while at a camp in Jordan with PLO guerrillas during the early-1970s.

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Andreas Baader with his AKM during training in Jordan with the PLO.
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Baader threatens Peter Homann with an AKM.
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Ulrike Meinhof fires an AKM during training in Jordan.
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Another image of Andreas with his AKM in Jordan.
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A PLO militant with an AKM, while the other spies on the naked female RAF members.


Norinco Type 56-1

While the RAF are procuring arms for their first bank robbery, they can be seen buying Chinese Norinco Type 56-1 assault rifles, but these weapons are never used on-screen..

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Norinco Type 56-1 7.62x39mm
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A crate of Chinese Type 56-1 rifles purchased by the RAF.


Heckler & Koch MP5A3

West German Federal police can be seen throughout the movie using Heckler & Koch MP5A3 submachine guns, all with the old-style straight "waffle" magazines. When Ulrike Meinhof (Martina Gedeck) is arrested, the police find several MP5A3s and magazines in her dwelling. In real life, the MP5A3 was known as a favorite weapon of RAF members in the 1970s (their flag featured an MP5A3 emblazoned over the Red Star), but for some reason, none of the terrorists in this film are ever seen actually firing MP5s in any of the assassinations or bank robberies depicted.

-- No. The RAF has never used the MP5 series; as far as it is known, the organisation never possessed a single one.

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Heckler & Koch MP5A3 with older style "slimline" fore end - 9x19mm.
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A German police officer wields an H&K MP5A3 on a news broadcast.
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A close-up of the MP5's muzzle.
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German police find several MP5A3s and ammo in Ulrike Meinhof's place.
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One of Hanns-Martin Schleyer's bodyguards tries to pull out his MP5A3 (foreground), but Ruth (background) mows him down with an HK33.


FEG P9R

When Petra Schelm (Alexandra Maria Lara) is fleeing the police after getting caught at a checkpoint, she uses an FEG P9R pistol to fire at the officers. The P9R is a Hungarian-made, double-action version of the Browning Hi-Power; its use in the film is an anachronism (Petra Schelm was killed in 1971; the P9R was introduced about 10 years later).

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FEG P9R 9x19mm
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Petra Schelm takes cover with her FEG P9R in hand.
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Schelm gets hit by return fire from the police (in the eye!)


Adler Jager AP74

During the bombing of the U.S. military barracks at Frankfurt in 1972, the U.S. Army MPs guarding the base are armed, curiously, with what appear to be Adler-Jager AP-74 .22-caliber clones of the M16, standing in for the M16A1 rifles that would have been standard-issue at the time.

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Adler-Jager AP74 rifle - .22 LR. Note the sharply angled three prong flash hider and the forward assist, and the small .22 LR magazine that protrudes under the 'fake' 20 round magazine.
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MPs with AP74 .22-caliber M16 clones stop several RAF members at a checkpoint.
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The MP inspects their car.


Heckler & Koch G3A3

A Heckler & Koch G3A3 rifle with a scope is used by the German police sniper who wounds Andreas Baader (Moritz Bleibtreu) when he is arrested in 1972.

-- No. This is a G3SG1; the bipod, raised stock comb, and Hensoldt 1.5-6X scope are clearly visible.

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Heckler & Koch G3A3 - 7.62x51mm NATO
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A police sniper with a H&K G3A3 shoots Andreas Baader.


Uzi

Full-size Uzi submachine guns are used by most of the RAF terrorists who take part in the siege at the West German embassy in Stockholm.

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IMI Uzi 9mm
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The RAF members open up a crate full of Uzi submachine guns.
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An RAF member is issued an Uzi.
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An RAF member seizes a hostage with his Uzi (missing its folding stock for some reason).
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An RAF terrorist holds his Uzi on a hostage when trying to make the police back off.


Skorpion SA Vz 61

When the RAF gunmen who seize the West German embassy in Stockholm are arming up, one of them is given a Skorpion SA Vz 61 machine pistol, but it is not seen in use during the siege itself (only Uzis are used).

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Skorpion SA Vz 61 - .32 ACP.
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One of the terrorists is handed a Skorpion Vz 61.


Carl Gustaf M/45B

The Swedish police who take part in the siege at Stockholm are all armed with Carl Gustaf M/45B submachine guns.

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Carl Gustaf M/45B 9x19mm‎
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Swedish police outside the West German embassy in Stockholm with their Carl Gustaf M/45 submachine guns at the ready.
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A police officer charges up the stairs of the embassy with a Carl Gustaf M/45.
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The Swedish police holds their M/45s on a hostage-taker in the embassy.


Luger P08

A Luger P08 can be seen when next-generation RAF terrorists are arming up to assassinate Siegfried Buback (Gerald Alexander Held).

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Luger P08 - 9x19mm.
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An RAF member lays out guns; the Luger P08 is visible in the center.


Heckler & Koch HK33

The next-generation RAF members can be seen using Heckler & Koch HK33-series assault rifles on several occasions. One of the two motorcycle gunmen who assassinates Siegfried Buback (Gerald Alexander Held) uses an HK33 with a chopped barrel and a stockless butt cap in lieu of a fixed or telescoping stock. Later, when the RAF kidnaps Hanns-Martin Schleyer (Bernd Stegemann), both Ruth (Sandra Borgmann) and Willy Peter Stoll (Hannes Wegener) use HK33 variants. Ruth's is an HK33A2 (fixed stock) with a chopped barrel and two magazines "jungle-taped" together, while Willy's is the collapsible-stock HK33A3 (also with a chopped barrel).

-- No. These are MKE T43 rifles; this is a recent Turkish semiautomatic copy similar to the H&K HK43 and HK93 rifles used historically by the terrorists during the attack.

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Heckler & Koch HK33A2 with factory 25rd Magazine - 5.56x45mm
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Heckler & Koch HK33A3 Rifle with telescoping stock and 30-round magazine - 5.56x45mm.
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An RAF gunman fires at Siegfried Buback and his bodyguards with a custom shortened HK33.
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Note the stockless butt cap.
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Ruth opens fire on Hanns-Martin Schleyer's motorcade with an HK33.
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Ruth reloads her HK33. Note the "jungle-taped" magazines.
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Ruth and Willy Peter Stoll both fire their HK33s.


Mini Ero

During the kidnapping of Hanns-Martin Schleyer, Peter-Jürgen Boock (Vinzenz Kiefer) is armed with a Croatian Mini Ero submachine gun, yet another weapon which did not exist during at the time in which the scene takes place.

--The real terrorists used a PM 63 submachine gun, their only full automatic weapon at the time.

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Mini Ero 9x19mm
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Peter-Jürgen Boock opens up with his Mini Ero machine pistol.
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Boock kills the last of Schleyer's bodyguards with the Mini Ero.


Mossberg 500

Christian Klar (Daniel Lommatzsch) uses a Mossberg 500 with a sawed down 16" barrel and open blade sights during the kidnapping of Hanns-Martin Schleyer.

--The real terrorists used a High Standard riot gun.

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Mossberg 500 - 12 Gauge.
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Christian Klar fires his Mossberg 500 shotgun.