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I believe the unidentified rifle is a [[Browning Auto-5]] shotgun. Also, just curious, I assume that the STGs with the stocks removed are never shown firing? I ask because on a genuine unmodified STG-44 the recoil spring is inside the stock, so curious to see if they got around this somehow or if they are just essentially non-firing props. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:49, 8 April 2016 (EDT)
I believe the unidentified rifle is a [[Browning Auto-5]] shotgun. Also, just curious, I assume that the STGs with the stocks removed are never shown firing? I ask because on a genuine unmodified STG-44 the recoil spring is inside the stock, so curious to see if they got around this somehow or if they are just essentially non-firing props. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:49, 8 April 2016 (EDT)
:Thanks! And yes, the modified StGs are non-firing props. In the firing scenes Mauser rifles are used. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 01:30, 9 April 2016 (EDT)
:Thanks! And yes, the modified StGs are non-firing props. In the firing scenes Mauser rifles are used. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 01:30, 9 April 2016 (EDT)
::Oddly enough, as in the 1990 film Road Hawks (Stervyatniki na dorogakh) analogous short StG-44 was fired. In addition, another StG from this movie later appeared in the [[The R Document (Dokument R)]]. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 09:45, 9 April 2016 (EDT)
::Oddly enough, as in the 1990 film [[Road Hawks (Stervyatniki na dorogakh)]] analogous short StG-44 was fired. In addition, another StG from this movie later appeared in the [[The R Document (Dokument R)]]. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 09:45, 9 April 2016 (EDT)


So. Now it’s clear what this is was supposed to portray. In Congo, some rare versions of FN FAL were actually used: [https://sun9-30.userapi.com/c856120/v856120896/1a18dc/PzrmJB4sC5c.jpg]. It has a almost cylindrical foregrip, similar to the T48, but still with the FAL-pattern holes and flattenings at the end (but not so deep). The muzzle brake is also absent; this seemed to be a sign of the Congo's FALs, as there is an one auction sale of similar Congo-order rifle ([[FN]]-made), whith the "traditional" foregrip, but the brake is also absent. Here is also a similar rifle; it is claimed to be Israel-made: [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_DQyiZWwAI7CnC.jpg] . In the end, it all comes down to the fact that this is some kind of almost unknown version of [[IMI Romat]]. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 11:29, 21 December 2019 (EST)
So. Now it’s clear what this is was supposed to portray. In Congo, some rare versions of FN FAL were actually used: [https://sun9-30.userapi.com/c856120/v856120896/1a18dc/PzrmJB4sC5c.jpg]. It has a almost cylindrical foregrip, similar to the T48, but still with the FAL-pattern holes and flattenings at the end (but not so deep). The muzzle brake is also absent; this seemed to be a sign of the Congo's FALs, as there is an one auction sale of similar Congo-order rifle ([[FN]]-made), whith the "traditional" foregrip, but the brake is also absent. Here is also a similar rifle; it is claimed to be Israel-made: [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_DQyiZWwAI7CnC.jpg] . In the end, it all comes down to the fact that this is some kind of almost unknown version of [[IMI Romat]]. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 11:29, 21 December 2019 (EST)

Latest revision as of 16:09, 10 December 2020

I believe the unidentified rifle is a Browning Auto-5 shotgun. Also, just curious, I assume that the STGs with the stocks removed are never shown firing? I ask because on a genuine unmodified STG-44 the recoil spring is inside the stock, so curious to see if they got around this somehow or if they are just essentially non-firing props. --commando552 (talk) 18:49, 8 April 2016 (EDT)

Thanks! And yes, the modified StGs are non-firing props. In the firing scenes Mauser rifles are used. Greg-Z (talk) 01:30, 9 April 2016 (EDT)
Oddly enough, as in the 1990 film Road Hawks (Stervyatniki na dorogakh) analogous short StG-44 was fired. In addition, another StG from this movie later appeared in the The R Document (Dokument R). --Slon95 (talk) 09:45, 9 April 2016 (EDT)

So. Now it’s clear what this is was supposed to portray. In Congo, some rare versions of FN FAL were actually used: [1]. It has a almost cylindrical foregrip, similar to the T48, but still with the FAL-pattern holes and flattenings at the end (but not so deep). The muzzle brake is also absent; this seemed to be a sign of the Congo's FALs, as there is an one auction sale of similar Congo-order rifle (FN-made), whith the "traditional" foregrip, but the brake is also absent. Here is also a similar rifle; it is claimed to be Israel-made: [2] . In the end, it all comes down to the fact that this is some kind of almost unknown version of IMI Romat. --Slon95 (talk) 11:29, 21 December 2019 (EST)

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