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==Goofs?== | ==Goofs?== | ||
Anyone else notice that he fired off, what, how many magazines in Farrells house before running out of ammo, like ten, or what? | Anyone else notice that he fired off, what, how many magazines in Farrells house before running out of ammo, like ten, or what? | ||
:I believe it was four mags, instead of 3 since he would have two in the pouch and one in the gun, so that was a mistake. What is more notable is how he fires close to 20 shots from each mag despite them only holding 7 shots each. Anyone notice how in the first film he managed to keep his Beretta loaded all the way to the end and here he wastes all his ammo in one firefight? Last thing | :I believe it was four mags, instead of 3 since he would have two in the pouch and one in the gun, so that was a mistake. What is more notable is how he fires close to 20 shots from each mag despite them only holding 7 shots each. Anyone notice how in the first film he managed to keep his Beretta loaded all the way to the end and here he wastes all his ammo in one firefight? If he had carried a "friend in need", a backup gun, he likely wouldn't have been left defenseless in the apartment once his SIG ran dry. Last thing, in the theatrical edition he tells Farrell he destroyed the helicopter with the car because he was out of bullets but he tells Matt he has mags in the glove compartment when they leave his apartment. In the unrated version, they changed what he said and this error went away. | ||
*** It could of been the 9mm p226 which holds 20 rounds per magazine.*** | *** It could of been the 9mm p226 which holds 20 rounds per magazine.*** | ||
:A P226 holds 15 shots, not 20. And it has been confirmed as a P220 by the armorer of the film. | :A P226 holds 15 shots, not 20. And it has been confirmed as a P220 by the armorer of the film. | ||
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:''I'd imagine they could, if one made such a magazine for that gun. And as for what the NYPD allows, real life =/= this movie. The gun's been long confirmed to be a P220R. So, in the Die Hard universe, that's what he was issued or allowed to carry.'' --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 20:19, 24 March 2009 (UTC) | :''I'd imagine they could, if one made such a magazine for that gun. And as for what the NYPD allows, real life =/= this movie. The gun's been long confirmed to be a P220R. So, in the Die Hard universe, that's what he was issued or allowed to carry.'' --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 20:19, 24 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
::Also, in regards to what is permitted by NYPD, McClane as a senior detective (he has been on the force for decades) probably has more freedome in what he can carry than an average patrol officer. | ::Also, in regards to what is permitted by NYPD, McClane as a senior detective (he has been on the force for decades) probably has more freedome in what he can carry than an average patrol officer. | ||
:::Mauser currently made a 20 round magazine for the SIG P226 using super-new spring technology, but that's in 9mm. You can't fit 20 rounds of .45 ACP into a standard magazine and not have it extend way past the grip. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] | |||
==Who did it first - ''Die Hard'' or ''Lethal Weapon''?== | ==Who did it first - ''Die Hard'' or ''Lethal Weapon''?== | ||
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''OK, have at it.'' --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 05:25, 17 March 2009 (UTC) | ''OK, have at it.'' --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 05:25, 17 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
Revision as of 19:40, 20 June 2009
Goofs?
Anyone else notice that he fired off, what, how many magazines in Farrells house before running out of ammo, like ten, or what?
- I believe it was four mags, instead of 3 since he would have two in the pouch and one in the gun, so that was a mistake. What is more notable is how he fires close to 20 shots from each mag despite them only holding 7 shots each. Anyone notice how in the first film he managed to keep his Beretta loaded all the way to the end and here he wastes all his ammo in one firefight? If he had carried a "friend in need", a backup gun, he likely wouldn't have been left defenseless in the apartment once his SIG ran dry. Last thing, in the theatrical edition he tells Farrell he destroyed the helicopter with the car because he was out of bullets but he tells Matt he has mags in the glove compartment when they leave his apartment. In the unrated version, they changed what he said and this error went away.
- It could of been the 9mm p226 which holds 20 rounds per magazine.***
- A P226 holds 15 shots, not 20. And it has been confirmed as a P220 by the armorer of the film.
Can't a person get a 20 round mag for a 226? Also, wouldn't a 220 have to be his off duty weapon? The NYPD only allows 9mm and 38's.
- I'd imagine they could, if one made such a magazine for that gun. And as for what the NYPD allows, real life =/= this movie. The gun's been long confirmed to be a P220R. So, in the Die Hard universe, that's what he was issued or allowed to carry. --Clutch 20:19, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- Also, in regards to what is permitted by NYPD, McClane as a senior detective (he has been on the force for decades) probably has more freedome in what he can carry than an average patrol officer.
- Mauser currently made a 20 round magazine for the SIG P226 using super-new spring technology, but that's in 9mm. You can't fit 20 rounds of .45 ACP into a standard magazine and not have it extend way past the grip. - Gunmaster45
- Also, in regards to what is permitted by NYPD, McClane as a senior detective (he has been on the force for decades) probably has more freedome in what he can carry than an average patrol officer.
Who did it first - Die Hard or Lethal Weapon?
Not to say that you're wrong, but wouldn't the Lethal Weapon movies be just as much of an influence on the guns popularity in the US? I mean, Lethal Weapon came out a year before Die Hard and Mel Gibson and Danny Glover talk specifically about the the Beretta in the beginning. "9mm Beretta, 16 in the mag, one in the pipe,..."Danny Glover.
I think both movies were equally influential in increasing the popularity of the 92FS. But, from my experience at least, Die Hard was the movie that made me want a 92FS from the age of 8 until I got one at 26.
OK, have at it. --Clutch 05:25, 17 March 2009 (UTC)