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::::Yeah, I was planning to cherry-pick the best of the 1911 caps once I finished the whole series; I also kept a bunch since I thought that some of the guns might actually be different models - Moeka has one with the Commander-style hammer, the resistance fighter has one with a normal hammer, and Mr. Braun has what appears to be an actual Commander (though it might just be the size of his hands) with a full-length guide rod. If anybody here is good with 1911s, please speak up, because I sure as hell am not. [[User:BrandonColeford1992|BrandonColeford1992]] ([[User talk:BrandonColeford1992|talk]]) 23:10, 4 June 2020 (EDT)
::::Yeah, I was planning to cherry-pick the best of the 1911 caps once I finished the whole series; I also kept a bunch since I thought that some of the guns might actually be different models - Moeka has one with the Commander-style hammer, the resistance fighter has one with a normal hammer, and Mr. Braun has what appears to be an actual Commander (though it might just be the size of his hands) with a full-length guide rod. If anybody here is good with 1911s, please speak up, because I sure as hell am not. [[User:BrandonColeford1992|BrandonColeford1992]] ([[User talk:BrandonColeford1992|talk]]) 23:10, 4 June 2020 (EDT)
::::: Though some shots are roughly drawn they all appear to be full-size 1911s, with the only notable distinction being the ones with the ring hammer and ones with the standard hammer. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 14:20, 5 June 2020 (EDT)
::::: Though some shots are roughly drawn they all appear to be full-size 1911s, with the only notable distinction being the ones with the ring hammer and ones with the standard hammer. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 14:20, 5 June 2020 (EDT)
::::::Yeah, looking back at them, they're all about the same size proportionally. So, should I just list them as M1911A1s and note the odd features, or does an A1-pattern 1911 with a ring hammer and a full-length guide rod actually constitute a specific model? (Then again, considering the Glock, the full-length guide rod might not've been intentional...) [[User:BrandonColeford1992|BrandonColeford1992]] ([[User talk:BrandonColeford1992|talk]]) 00:39, 6 June 2020 (EDT)

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Steins;Gate (April 6 - September 14, 2011)

Steins;Gate is a 2011 anime series produced by White Fox, based on the 5pb. visual novel of the same name. It centers around a group of college students (led by Rintaro "Okarin" Okabe) and their accidental creation of a device capable of sending text messages back in time, allowing them to alter the past.

A non-chronologically-linear sequel, Steins;Gate 0, was released in 2018.

The following weapons were used in the anime series Steins;Gate:

Handguns

Unknown 1911 Variant

M1911A1-pattern pistols (presently unidentified) are a rather common sight, appearing in the hands of Rounders in most of the episodes in which they appear (replacing the Walther PPKs they used in the original VN), as well as Okabe Rintaro in Episode 14 ("Physically Necrosis") and future resistance fighters in Episode 15 ("Missing Link Necrosis"), though neither of these parties are ever seen using them. Mr. Braun also uses one in Episode 20 ("Finalize Apoptosis"), as opposed to the Beretta 92FS he used in the VN.

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Colt M1911A1 - .45 ACP
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In Episode 12 ("Dogma in Ergosphere"), a masked Rounder raises his Colt...
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...and points it directly at the members of the lab. And the screen.
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He then pistol-whips the lab's TV.
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Moeka Kiryu, the only non-masked member of the raiding group, points her 1911 at Mayuri Shiina.
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Silently muttering about "FB", she pulls the trigger.
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An expressionless Moeka holds her still-smoking Colt.
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A side-on shot of the pistol; note the unusual presence of a Colt Commander-style ring hammer on a full-sized 1911. Said hammer is also uncocked, despite the pistol having been fired mere seconds earlier.
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With the confrontation continuing into Episode 13 ("Metaphysics Necrosis"), Moeka aims her 1911 at Okabe.
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Another pistol (the one belonging to the aloha-shirted Rounder at the top of this section) lies on the floor.
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Picking it up, Suzuha engages in a Mexican standoff with Moeka, in one of the series's more famous moments.
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"The 42-inch CRT..."
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"...is on."
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Suzuha fires her pilfered pistol, creating an opening for the rest of the people in the room who understand the significance of that statement.
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Moeka aims her Colt at Kurisu.
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However, Okabe's impromptu smokescreen blocks her view, leaving her to fire randomly into the mist.
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In the following episode, Okabe takes away Moeka's 1911; it's worth noting that, despite the rather serious nature of this scene, he disarms her under the threat of a toy ray gun. Which, as it happens, is also a TV remote.
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Having acquired an actual handgun, Okabe holds it on its former owner. Note that the hammer isn't cocked, which would explain how remarkably unbothered Moeka looks if not for the fact that she pretty much always looks like that.
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A first-person view of Okabe holding the pistol...
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...and then promptly losing consciousness.
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He awakes to the exact opposite situation.
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Another view of Okabe and the 1911.
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An anti-SERN resistance fighter drops their handgun; note how, unlike the rest of the series' 1911s, this one has wooden grips and a normal spur-type hammer.
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Another pair of resistance members are gunned down, one holding a 1911. The other presumably has a weapon as well (given the ammo belt they're wearing), though it is never seen clearly.
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Having been ousted, Mr. Braun draws his 1911...
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...and aims it at Moeka.
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Still pointing the pistol at Moeka, he maintains his signature joyless smile.
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Even when he fires. Note the full-length guide rod.
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Another shot of Braun holding his still-smoking 1911.
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Braun turns the pistol on himself; as with Moeka's, his 1911's hammer remains uncocked throughout this entire scene.
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Mr. Braun lies dead, still clutching his pistol.
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Another view of his 1911, as a dragonfly lands on his hand.

Glock 17

Suzuha Amane uses a suppressed Glock 17 to shoot out a lock in Episodes 23 ("Open the Steins Gate") and 24 ("Achievement Point").

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Glock 17 (Gen 1) - 9x19mm
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The business end of Suzuha's suppressed sidearm. Note the odd shape of the slide, more akin to a Browning Hi-Power than a Glock; this appears to be the result of one of the artists looking at an image of a pre-Gen 3 Glock and mistaking the narrower portion of the dustcover for part of the slide.
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This would also explain why the slide does this when Suzuha fires her pistol; this type of slide-frame interaction would otherwise only be possible with a Glock 17L...
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...which, as can be seen in the next shot, this clearly isn't.
Discounting what might be a hammer drawn on the back in the last image, this still looks more like a Glock to me. The contours nor the overall shape looks like a HP at all. StanTheMan (talk) 12:01, 4 June 2020 (EDT)
I was mostly calling it a Hi-Power because of the shape of the front of the slide, especially since the only Glock I thought it could be is a 17L (or another similar longslide), and those have a big hole right below the barrel, but now that I think about it, this does look like how I'd picture the front end of a Glock if I'd never seen one before - the way the slide goes into the frame would also make sense if that were the case, since I could see someone looking at the side of a pre-Gen 3 G17 and thinking that the narrower part of the frame is part of the slide like on a Browning-type design, making it seem like a G17L when the slide goes back. EDIT: I don't know why I didn't do that when I wrote this comment, but the change is there now. To be honest, I was initially a little worried that Suzuha's gun wasn't based on anything in particular, especially since it gets so little screentime, and since (spoiler) the character using it just showed up from 2036. BrandonColeford1992 (talk) 23:04, 4 June 2020 (EDT)

Submachine Guns

Heckler & Koch MP5K

In Episode 15, SERN agents in Suzuha Amane's description of 2036 use Heckler & Koch MP5K submachine guns.

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Heckler & Koch MP5K - 9x19mm
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A group of SERN agents fire their MP5Ks.
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A close-up of one of the agents; it's not exactly clear how they're supposed to be aiming, but their effectiveness speaks for itself.
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The agents are blinded by Suzuha's flashbang; this gives a clear view of their MP5Ks' SEF lower receivers.

Rifles

AK-47

Several of the Rounders in Episodes 12 and 13 also use AK-47 rifles, seemingly of the Type III variety.

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AK-47 (Type III) - 7.62x39mm
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The Rounders rounding the corner into the Future Gadget Laboratory, AKs in hand.
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A sliding close-up shot of one of the rifles, giving a good view of the barrel, front sight, and gas block/tube...
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...followed by the handguard, rear sight, and part of the receiver (including the currently-engaged safety)...
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...and then the silhouetted trigger group and magazine of another AK.
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A brief, lower-detail shot of the Rounders and their weapons. Note that they're all wearing masks; in the VN, they were instead all bare-faced.
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A good view of an AK's stock and pistol grip as it gets launched through the air by Suzuha.
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Several low-detail AKs lie on the floor as Moeka and Suzuha stare each other down.
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As Moeka rallies the Rounder raiding party, several silhouetted AKs are seen.
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A couple more are seen in close-ups.
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Ditto.
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An additional Rounder stays behind to guard Okarin, AK in hand.

Grenades/Explosives

M18A1 Claymore

First seen in Episode 10 ("Chaos Theory Homeostasis III"), "Future Gadget #4 - Moad Snake" is a replica M18A1 Claymore mine. Aside from serving as a reference to Metal Gear Solid, its actual purpose is a "super-instant humidifier", which translates to it producing a massive amount of steam as soon as it's opened. The device plays an important role in Episode 13, with Okabe using it to create a smokescreen to blind Moeka.

M18A1 Claymore
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Ruka Urushibara finds the Moad Snake, mistaking it for a camping/cooking kit.
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Attempting to open the device, she removes the pin...
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...and causes it to blow open.
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This creates a large blast of steam, as per the device's intended function.
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It's remarkably effective in doing so; the entire room is quickly filled with steam. It'd be even more impressive if someone could find an actual use for it.
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Which, 3 episodes later, is exactly what happens - Okabe pulls the pin, and he and Kurisu disappear into the steam.

M84 Stun Grenade

In Episode 15, Suzuha is seen throwing an M84 Stun Grenade during her 2036 flashback.

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M84 Stun Grenade
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Suzuha pulling the pin out of an M84 with her teeth; this is a rather bad idea, since grenade pins are not meant to come out more easily than human teeth (for rather obvious reasons), literally doubly so with an M84 since they have two separate pins.
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Teeth unharmed, Suzuha throws her flashbang down the staircase at her pursuers.
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Another frame from the same sequence, showing that the grenade's lever is correctly absent.
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A close-up of the grenade, showing that it is incorrectly depicted with a completely smooth, black body; the real grenade is painted multiple colors (as the reference image shows), and has holes in the central cylinder that allow it to make a loud "bang" without breaking apart and throwing shrapnel.

Thoughts

Noted on how the screencaps have Funi on them. Ominae (talk) 03:02, 15 May 2020 (EDT)

Yeah, they’re the only site that legally streams the show, unfortunately enough. If you want, I could edit out the watermark. BrandonColeford1992 (talk) 10:49, 15 May 2020 (EDT)
Sure someone will come across the show without the watermarks anyway. Ominae (talk) 02:53, 27 May 2020 (EDT)
Should this actually get a page proper, the 1911 section will have to be curtailed some - There's way too many screencaps there. StanTheMan (talk) 12:02, 4 June 2020 (EDT)
Yeah, I was planning to cherry-pick the best of the 1911 caps once I finished the whole series; I also kept a bunch since I thought that some of the guns might actually be different models - Moeka has one with the Commander-style hammer, the resistance fighter has one with a normal hammer, and Mr. Braun has what appears to be an actual Commander (though it might just be the size of his hands) with a full-length guide rod. If anybody here is good with 1911s, please speak up, because I sure as hell am not. BrandonColeford1992 (talk) 23:10, 4 June 2020 (EDT)
Though some shots are roughly drawn they all appear to be full-size 1911s, with the only notable distinction being the ones with the ring hammer and ones with the standard hammer. StanTheMan (talk) 14:20, 5 June 2020 (EDT)
Yeah, looking back at them, they're all about the same size proportionally. So, should I just list them as M1911A1s and note the odd features, or does an A1-pattern 1911 with a ring hammer and a full-length guide rod actually constitute a specific model? (Then again, considering the Glock, the full-length guide rod might not've been intentional...) BrandonColeford1992 (talk) 00:39, 6 June 2020 (EDT)