Payback: Difference between revisions
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Payback: Difference between revisions
[[Image:PaybackBeretta92FS-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter hold's Val's Beretta 92FS on Fairfax ([[James Coburn]]) using the same horrible gangster grip. Apparently he forgot his USMC training...]]
[[Image:PaybackBeretta92FS-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter hold's Val's Beretta 92FS on Fairfax ([[James Coburn]]) using the same horrible gangster grip. Apparently he forgot his USMC training...]]
[[Image:PaybackBeretta92FS-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter fires his Beretta 92FS akimbo with a [[Smith & Wesson Model 27]] at the Triads.]]
[[Image:PaybackBeretta92FS-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter fires his Beretta 92FS akimbo with a [[Smith & Wesson Model 27]] at the Triads.]]
[[Image:PaybackBeretta92FS-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter uses an awful stance and flinches terribly as he unloads on the Triads.]]
[[Image:PaybackBeretta92FS-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter uses an awful stance and flinches terribly as he unloads on the Triads. ''To be fair, at such a close distance with a target as large as a van a less than ideal stance and some flinching probably would make much of a difference. -Anonymous'']]
[[Image:PaybackBeretta92FS-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter rolls out from under the van and guns down the Triad driver.]]
[[Image:PaybackBeretta92FS-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter rolls out from under the van and guns down the Triad driver.]]
[[Image:PaybackWaltherPPK-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pearl fires her Walther PPK at Porter through the floor of the Triad van. Luckily for Porter, she is the worste shot in the world, and misses him at a 2ft distance with only the distance of a van to cover.]]
[[Image:PaybackWaltherPPK-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pearl fires her Walther PPK at Porter through the floor of the Triad van. Luckily for Porter, she is the worste shot in the world, and misses him at a 2ft distance with only the distance of a van to cover. ''In all fairness she may have missed because Porter's exact location was hidden by the floor of the car. -Anonymous'']]
[[Image:PaybackWaltherPPK-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pearl holds her Walther PPK on Porter.]]
[[Image:PaybackWaltherPPK-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pearl holds her Walther PPK on Porter.]]
[[Image:PaybackWaltherPPK-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The gun clicks empty instead of locking back like it should have on the last shot. Then again, maybe it misfired and Porter got ''really'' lucky.]]
[[Image:PaybackWaltherPPK-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The gun clicks empty instead of locking back like it should have on the last shot. Then again, maybe it misfired and Porter got ''really'' lucky. ''Coming to the films defense once again, I own Bersa Thunder 380, functionally almost identical to the PPK, and the slide release is extremely sensitive so it's possible the gun locked back but was released as she fumbled about the car without her being aware. -Anonymous '']]
Porter (Mel Gibson) uses a blued Smith & Wesson Model 27 4" with S&W factory combat grips for the majority of the film after buying it in a pawn shop. It is not a Smith & Wesson Model 29 as previously mentioned, as the diameter of the muzzle and cylinder chambers is clearly too small to be .44 Magnum.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingSmith & Wesson Model 27 6" - .357 Magnum.Error creating thumbnail: File missingThe pawn shop owner hands Porter a Smith & Wesson Model 27 from off the rack. His lack of gun safety is pretty obvious as he hands him the gun with the hammer cocked and his finger on the trigger.Error creating thumbnail: File missingLeft: Porter swings open the cylinder and spins it. A ratcheting sound effect is heard even though there is nothing for the cylinder to ratchet against. Right: Porter examines the gun like a real pro by pointing the muzzle at himself.Error creating thumbnail: File missingAfter doing some flashy twirling, Porter hands the shop owner the Model 27 back to make a purchase. No FFL, no handgun liscence, no waiting period, no way... Speaking as an Oregonian, Handgun licenses and waiting periods are not always required for handgun purchases and being as no specific location was ever given in the film (it takes place in a generic big city) there is no reason to assume these restrictions are necessisary (although a background check should have been conducted) -AnonymousError creating thumbnail: File missingPorter searches his wife's house with his Model 27 at the ready. He has a "USMC" tattoo on his shoulder, so you'd assume he'd know how to clear a room. Instead he does what is typically done in films and wanders around the house with the revolver cocked and pointed at the ceiling.Error creating thumbnail: File missingA Model 27 with regular grips is seen in Detective Hicks' (Bill Duke) holster.Error creating thumbnail: File missingPorter holds his Model 27 on Val in the hotel room.Error creating thumbnail: File missingPorter shoots Val in Rosie's (Maria Bello) house.Error creating thumbnail: File missingPorter uses a pillow to muffle the gunshot as he executes Val. This is movie fiction, as a pillow would not properly suppress a handgun, especially a revolver. It is also pointless since three rounds are fired before this.Error creating thumbnail: File missingPorter holds his Model 27 on the Detectives before handing it to them outside the "Outfit's" building.Error creating thumbnail: File missingArthur Stegman (David Paymer) holds a Model 27 on Porter in the back of a Taxi cab before he takes it from him.Error creating thumbnail: File missingPorter fires the Model 27 in an awkward akimbo stance along with a Beretta 92FS at the Triads, unloading about 13 rounds from his six shot revolver. For whatever reason he chose to put the heavier recoil handgun in his non-dominant hand, a poor choice in the real world.Error creating thumbnail: File missingPorter fires the two guns through the floor of the Triad van. You can see he is simply dry-firing the gun as no muzzle flash is seen, likely a safety procaution for firing blanks at such close proximity.Error creating thumbnail: File missingA close up of the guns firing, with excellent shots of the gun's markings.Error creating thumbnail: File missingPorter rolls out from under the van and shoots the Triad driver.Error creating thumbnail: File missingPorter holds the Model 27 on Pearl (Lucy Liu).Error creating thumbnail: File missingThe gun clicks empty. That's the inconveniance of movie guns, they can fire off a ridiculous amount of ammunition but never have a bullet left when you really need it.Error creating thumbnail: File missingInternal Affiars officers show off Porter's original Model 27 to Det. Hicks (Bill Duke) and Det. Leary (Jack Conley) after Porter left the gun (covered with their fingerprints) at the scene of Val's murder, along with one of their badges.
File:PythSilv.jpgColt Python - .357 Magnum.Error creating thumbnail: File missingLynn shoots Porter in the back with the Colt Python. Although she blinks on the first shot, she does a good job of keeping her eyes open for the other five.Error creating thumbnail: File missingVal tries to comfort Lynn as she holds her Colt Python. Nice work following rule number three, finger off the trigger.
Beretta 92FS
Val Resnick (Gregg Henry) carries a Beretta 92FS pistol as his main sidearm, which Porter (Mel Gibson) takes from him and uses for the rest of the film.
Pearl (Lucy Liu) carries a Walther PPK with pearl grips (possibly in relation with her name) as her sidearm.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingWalther PPK - .32 ACP.Error creating thumbnail: File missingPearl fires her Walther PPK at Porter through the floor of the Triad van. Luckily for Porter, she is the worste shot in the world, and misses him at a 2ft distance with only the distance of a van to cover. In all fairness she may have missed because Porter's exact location was hidden by the floor of the car. -AnonymousError creating thumbnail: File missingPearl holds her Walther PPK on Porter.Error creating thumbnail: File missingThe gun clicks empty instead of locking back like it should have on the last shot. Then again, maybe it misfired and Porter got really lucky. Coming to the films defense once again, I own Bersa Thunder 380, functionally almost identical to the PPK, and the slide release is extremely sensitive so it's possible the gun locked back but was released as she fumbled about the car without her being aware. -Anonymous
SIG-Sauer P220
The Triad van driver is seen firing a SIG-Sauer P220 through the floor of the van at Porter (Mel Gibson). Earlier in the film Porter is seen taking a SIG P220 from one of Carter's (William Devane) guards after knocking him out with a roll of pennies and then using it to kill him. They are noted as the P220 model by their lack of double stack bulges on the frame, and their .45-sized muzzle diameters.
At one point in the movie, Porter is attacked by a group of Chinese gangsters he had robbed earlier, two of them are armed with M3 "Grease Guns". They clearly have a charging handle making them the older M3s, not M3A1s.
