Talk:Call of Duty Online: Difference between revisions
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Talk:Call of Duty Online: Difference between revisions
I know that mobile games are not allowed on IMFDB, however, I have another idea. Considering that mobile is basically more or less COD Online... but on mobile, we could treat it the same way as MW Remastered. Most of the weapons are the same with some exceptions like the M4A1 and G36 getting new visuals so we could add subsections similarly to how we did with MW Remastered.
I know that mobile games are not allowed on IMFDB, however, I have another idea. Considering that mobile is basically more or less COD Online... but on mobile, we could treat it the same way as MW Remastered. Most of the weapons are the same with some exceptions like the M4A1 and G36 getting new visuals so we could add subsections similarly to how we did with MW Remastered.
I think it is important we do something with COD Mobile as the game became quite big with around 100 million downloads and considering that there is no other place like IMFDB to identify the depicted guns, I believe it is up to us to do deal with this issue. Even IGCD dedicated a [http://www.igcd.net/game.php?id=1000014185 page for COD Mobile] yet there is no firearms database for it. What do you think? Should we make a small exception for COD Mobile? --[[User:Nanomat|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat|talk]]) 09:03, 10 October 2019 (EDT)
I think it is important we do something with COD Mobile as the game became quite big with around 100 million downloads and considering that there is no other place like IMFDB to identify the depicted guns, I believe it is up to us to deal with this issue. Even IGCD dedicated a [http://www.igcd.net/game.php?id=1000014185 page for COD Mobile] yet there is no firearms database for it. What do you think? Should we make a small exception for COD Mobile? --[[User:Nanomat|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat|talk]]) 09:03, 10 October 2019 (EDT)
Since almost all old screenshots from early trailers reused the same MW2 models and differ pretty much from the current version, I'm moving them here. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 07:10, 2 August 2016 (EDT)
I'm going to move all the old screenshots that were used on the page here too, because they might be useful in the future. --Wuzh (talk) 10:55, 1 December 2017 (EST)
Is this going to be available to users outside of Red China? Would we have any users who could actually access this? --Funkychinaman (talk) 02:05, 21 January 2013 (EST)
Well I currently see three different options: Wait for a user from China to show up, wait for the COD wiki to upload screens, or I could screencap youtube gameplay videos when the game is released.Mr.Ice (talk) 02:08, 21 January 2013 (EST)
1) Is this website avaiable in Red China? 2) We hate it when other wikis steal from us, we're not going to steal from them, 3) Youtube is banned in Red China. --Funkychinaman (talk) 02:16, 21 January 2013 (EST)
Then the only other option is to wait and see if it is released in the West.Mr.Ice (talk) 02:28, 21 January 2013 (EST)
So is this finally coming out in the west? --Funkychinaman (talk) 10:27, 5 August 2014 (EDT)
According to Activision, they will release it worldwide depending on the success of the game so we might have to wait pretty much until Activision gives the word. - Kenny99 (talk) 20:17, 5 August 2014 (EDT)
Well, the page is being updated, so someone has played it. (And I doubt we have any users from Red China.) --Funkychinaman (talk) 01:30, 6 August 2014 (EDT)
FN FAL Screenshot
The third person screenshot of the weapon in Killhouse is the L86A1, not the FAL. Check the L86 pics in it's respective section, the bipod is removed. AgentGumby (talk) 18:10, 24 January 2013 (EST)
That's the "AK117" in-game. Any idea on what's this weapon? To me it looks a bit like the Bulgarian Arsenal AR-M1. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 17:46, 27 August 2014 (EDT)
This is going to seem like a silly question, but can you actually play this? Is it out? If so, can you upload some caps? --Funkychinaman (talk) 17:50, 27 August 2014 (EDT)
Unfortunately no, I don't have access to the game; I took these two screencaps from a YouTube video, we can probably do the same for the other weapons. The game is technically out, but as an open beta only available in China, and it is constantly being updated with new content and weapons being added. Anyway, do you have any idea about this assault rifle? --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 18:01, 27 August 2014 (EDT)
I guess it turned out to be an AK-102 (even though the in-game magazine's appearance is similar to that of the AR-M1). --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 05:53, 14 September 2014 (EDT)
I think this is an "updated" AK-107. Note the position of the gas tube. Also the name "117" would suggest that they pimped up a 107. - bozitojugg3rn4ut (talk) 12:19, 19 February 2015 (EST)
Umm... I doubt that, given the length of the gas tube and the model of the magazine, which seems to be a 5.56x45mm, not 5.45x39mm. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 14:21, 19 February 2015 (EST)
In CB (Close Beta) stage this gun have a different model, named as CAR-T which it is AK-104 based on in-game description. --Nick 402 (talk) 17:30, 20 March 2015 (CST)
That's right, the older version was different. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 15:42, 20 March 2015 (EDT)
Chain gun confusion
I'm not sure about the inclusion of the M230 in the game (though I assume it's logical if they kept the AH-64 recalling killstreak in the game), but the screencap allegedly showcasing is very obviously depicting a Mi-28 mounted 2A42.--BeloglaviSup (talk) 09:35, 12 October 2014 (EDT)
Mk 14 EBR
The "MK14" in-game (seen here) is a proper Mk 14 Mod 1 EBR, but regarding the "M21 EBR" sniper variant (seen here), is it the M14 EBR-RI variant or the M39 EMR? Anyway, here are images of all weapons of the game. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 05:45, 26 January 2015 (EST)
Also, the new MP5K model (named "SMG5" in-game) has a straight magazine similar to the .40 S&W and 10mm MP5 variants. Do actual MP5Ks chambered in these calibers exist? --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 09:48, 27 January 2015 (EST)
The "M21 EBR" is a frankengun, basically the barrel length of the M14 EBR-RI and M39 EMR coupled with the MK14 Mod 1 buttstock. No such named configuration that I know of exists. And no, no MP5Ks were ever made in those calibers AFAIK. Spartan198 (talk) 23:59, 27 January 2015 (EST)
Of course there's no named config like this; it's just one that IW made up themselves for the Mk 14 EBR from MW2. And btw how can we differentiate between the M14 EBR-RI and M39 EMR? --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 04:45, 28 January 2015 (EST)
New weapons
Some weapons have been recently added to the game. Can someone help identify these specific variants?
M4LMG is likely the Colt IAR.AgentGumby (talk) 00:25, 19 February 2015 (EST)
Eh, I was thinking between this and the M27 IAR. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 05:22, 19 February 2015 (EST)
It isn't either. Looks more like they based it off a Barrett REC7. Spartan198 (talk) 22:06, 15 March 2015 (EDT)
Just found out that the AKS-74U is only found in the game files; it isn't in the game as of now. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 13:32, 20 February 2015 (EST)
"AKS-74u" is a shotgun. Named as GPAS-12 based on Saiga-12. --Nick 402 (talk) 17:30, 20 March 2015 (CST)
On another note, I think the .44 Magnum is the S&W 629 Stealth Hunter, similar to the one in Far Cry 3/4.AgentGumby (talk) 10:50, 21 February 2015 (EST)
It seems so, though the length matches more the Competitor variant. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 11:01, 21 February 2015 (EST)
And regarding the "MR23", I wonder if it could be an FN SSR rather than a SCAR-H. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 11:21, 28 February 2015 (EST)
No, it's not. It's a SCAR-H with a rail extension of some kind. Spartan198 (talk) 00:07, 22 May 2015 (EDT)
Oh and here's and image of the "SMG5SD". Apparently it's chambered in .40 S&W or 10mm (which would at least make sense for this full-length MP5, unlike the MP5K), and has an AAC Honey Badger-like handguard. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 16:27, 15 March 2015 (EDT)
So i take all weapon screenshots at the in-game marketplace. any one like to added it to main page?
Thanks a lot for these screenshots; we'll add them to the main page soon. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 15:42, 20 March 2015 (EDT)
Location of screenshots?
I just took a buncha high res screenshots in game but I dunno where they are held. Anyone know? Also is the standard key the print screen one or do I need to use a different one?
I don't know if there's a specific destination for in-game screenshots. If not, then you should stick to paint. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 19:07, 28 March 2015 (EDT)
Not sure how it is for weird ads since I run noscript, but it's a good list of things that are likely to appear in Call of Duty games sooner or later. Also that Colt thing is really weird and looks like they stole it from a Turok game. Evil Tim (talk) 12:40, 4 May 2015 (EDT)
I'd like to see the FX-05 Xiuhcoatl in a CoD game. I just love how chunky looking it is. - user:1morey September 17, 2016 9:18 AM (EST)
What is the SPBC?
It's an M4, Magpul M4, or an HK416? Treliazz
It looks like the Peacekeeper from BOII had a baby with a Noveske built AR15. You can use four tildes ("~") to sign your posts.AgentGumby (talk) 14:12, 29 November 2015 (EST)
M4A1 Tech Variant
Looks similar to the HVR-30 from Black Ops III.--Treliazz (talk) 09:43, 9 January 2017 (EST)
*Quietly vomits in a corner* All jokes aside, I'd have to agree with you. I really don't think this deserves a mention on the page, though, given the lack of real-world basis (I mean, it's based on something loosely based on an SA58 receiver, so I'm not sure if it qualifies. Also, if you want to find info on this game and its weapons, I'd recommend you check out M3RKMUS1C, a guy who's somehow managed to get a hold of this game in the US, marking quite possibly the first time that gameplay footage of COD Online has been on Youtube (due to China's Youtube ban). Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 16:50, 9 January 2017 (EST)
Beretta M9
Back on the topic of Raven Software's frankenguns lol. I don't think it's fine to list it as an M9A3, is it? The grip panel is somewhat similar, and the rail system matches it the most, though in-game it has four slots instead of three (the Recover Tactical BC2 rail system has four slots, but it looks different so nevermind on that). Thing is it has a standard M9 rear sight, an unusual bulge upwards the slide (it's not the same as that of variants like the 92FS Brigadier), as well as not having the M9A3's FDE finish (aside from the grip panel, to some extent). Ideas? --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 05:10, 3 August 2017 (EDT)
To add on that, the back part of the pistol grip is definitely that of the original M9. I'll change the section to an M9 with some M9A3-like parts. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 20:58, 23 March 2018 (EDT)
Questions about images
So I'm from China and got my hands on the game, and I had taken a few images that I might upload on the page later. But some of the images are taken in the lobby, and the game enforces social elements in the lobby, meaning that all of the time usernames of other people from the allchat is shown. Am I allowed to censor or crop out the chat section to protect others' identities?
Second question. I can take images in either Fraps or using the in-game screenshot key. Taking it with Fraps retains the HUD, while using the in-game screenshot key removes the HUD but adds a watermark of the CODOL logo on the bottom right. Which one is preferred in this case? (I assume that the non-watermarked version is preferred, based on the Image Rules) Wuzh (talk) 22:55, 24 November 2017 (EST)
Regarding your second question, you are correct. The general precedent is that a screenshot should look like normal gameplay, HUD and all (not to mention that the HUD can sometimes provide interesting opportunities for notes or trivia). As for the first question, I'm not sure. If I had to guess, I'd say that if you wanted to remove people's names, you could, but you should try to censor/blur out names subtly, rather than by cropping the image, as cropped images are generally frowned upon here (with a few rare exceptions). However, I don't think that I'm the best person to ask. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 10:10, 25 November 2017 (EST)
Yeah, if you want to blank out names that's fine, just open it up in an image editor and draw a black box over their name, or one that's the same colour as the box the name appears in. Evil Tim (talk) 10:37, 25 November 2017 (EST)
Alright, thanks for the tip.--Wuzh (talk) 10:55, 25 November 2017 (EST)
New thing to mention is that I finally found a good way to take images without the disruptive HUD by using demo playback. Also the cosmetic gloves expired so you can see my character's black hands in all of the images.--Wuzh (talk) 09:44, 9 March 2018 (EST)
Trivia about that mission where you pull out the Desert Eagle with the MW2 model
It's not really related to the page, but is way too hilarious to not share.
The singleplayer campaign in COD Online is a mess made up of spare limbs from other Call of Duty games. The first mission, for example, is the final mission of BO1 with the assault on Rusalka merged with the first mission of MW1. The story is also a mess, with TF141 investigating the Shadow Company, Nova 6, and Element 115 in some fictional country that simultaneously has tropical-looking cities, snowy mountains, and Eastern European villages (because of all the reused maps). Before the mission Betrayal, TF141 destroyed a Shadow Company mountain factory that was producing dirty bombs made from Nova 6 mixed with Element 115, but one dirty bomb was still transported away. So TF141 went down the snowy mountain factory straight into the Eastern European villages "nearby" to track it down. An AC-130 supports TF141 through the villages (basically Hunted and Death From Above from MW1 merged into a single level), during which Ghost (who defected to the Shadow Company beforehand for unknown reasons) appears and gets into a fistfight with Soap, before leaving and saying some mysterious things. Why did he defect and betray TF141 is never resolved, but hey, there's the cool mission name. So TF141 and the AC-130 moved on.
Here's where things escalate.
The AC-130 operators detect that an RPG (yes, RPG, that is what they said in-game) is coming towards them, and uses chaff countermeasures to try to deflect them (because RPGs). They fail. The AC-130 crashes into the ground near our heroes of TF141 (because AC-130s fly pretty low right, RPGs can hit them). Soap says that they need to rescue the pilots (because they survived the AC-130 crash but are injured duh). So you and Soap fight through more Shadow Company dudes before getting to the wreck of the AC-130, to find a pilot in SCUBA gear (because the pilot needs to dive too). So while you drag the pilot in SCUBA gear away to safety, Shadow Company dudes come to kill you, so you pull out your MW2 Desert Eagle with a bayonet to fire back. Then all of a sudden, a nuke (or a really large bomb) explodes in the distance, and the shockwave kills the Shadow Company dudes and saves TF141 (you see, TF141 guys are pretty tough, not like the Shadow Company dudes). TF141 exfils with the pilot in SCUBA gear.
Who fired that nuke? Nobody questioned it and nobody gave an answer. What happened to the dirty bomb you're supposed to find? It went away from the place they're searching so TF141 had to track them again to get it in the next mission. Everything ended as suddenly as it began. No introduction, no explanation, no closure.
I'll be honest, this sounds hilarious. Evil Tim (talk) 11:14, 25 November 2017 (EST)
That actually sounds like it would be worth getting just for the lolz alone. Spartan198 (talk) 14:40, 25 November 2017 (EST)
It sounds like the videogame version of one of those Italian B movies with all the stock footage. :D Evil Tim (talk) 15:45, 25 November 2017 (EST)
That RPG versus AC-130 thing also happened in the short film Find Makarov: Operation Kingfish lol (but don't worry, the pilot and gunner didn't survive in that one). --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 20:21, 28 January 2018 (EST)
"Bad Company 2 called, they want their tracer darts back"--AgentGumby (talk) 21:54, 28 January 2018 (EST)
This was a variant reskin for the MSR that was released fairly recently, during what I presume was a CODWWII promotional series called Classical Warfare (self-translated from 战争经典). This variant calls itself a Mosin-Nagant (莫辛纳甘-战争经典), but I am 100% sure it's not a Mosin-Nagant. A few other users in China said it looked like an M1A1 Carbine.
There are lots of other Classical Warfare weapons, but this is the only one currently purchasable with microtransactions in the store now so I can take a pic of it. (the others are available as website images, but I can't view them in-game like this one yet since I don't own them. You have to get them during this event thing where you roll for a chance for one of them. IIRC there was a fake FG42 for the MR23, a fake Grease Gun for the MP5, a classical Thompson, and an STG 44. There are also non-WWII Classical Warfare variants like one I saw for the FAL and one for the ACR, which basically just adds wood furniture) --Wuzh (talk) 06:55, 27 November 2017 (EST)
I can see the back of a Nagant bolt on it, it looks like they first based it on The End's custom Nagant from Metal Gear Solid 3, 4 and Peace Walker:
And then trimmed back the handguard and shoved an M14-ish magazine into the bottom of the Nagant's fixed mag. Evil Tim (talk) 08:00, 27 November 2017 (EST)
Hmm, OK. Thanks a lot! --Wuzh (talk) 08:21, 27 November 2017 (EST)
By the way, Wuzh, is the (new?) "Tavor-21 Tech" an entirely separate weapon from the Tavor-21? (A bit like the M4A1 Tech vs. M4A1) Or is it just a reskin/variant of it? --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 09:26, 27 November 2017 (EST)
Technically, it's a completely different weapon, just like the M4A1 Tech vs. M4A1 since they both have a pure gray "base" version. But it's practically a reskin, since the stats are exactly the same, with the primary difference being the appearance and the iron sights. --Wuzh (talk) 09:45, 27 November 2017 (EST)
The game just updated with a new assault rifle, X51. Does this look like anything? --Wuzh (talk) 05:29, 1 December 2017 (EST)
I don't now if it has parts of something real, but it's too sci-fi to belong to the page, just like the "Fate" and "Justice". By the way, I saw your edit to the GP-25 section. From what I've seen, it was referred to as both the GP-25 and GP-30 names in an older version of the game (that was in the HUD, whereas in the Create-a-Class they were called "MBGL-1" and "MBGL-2"); isn't it the case at all anymore? --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 05:39, 2 December 2017 (EST)
Nope. I don't know what version in the past had these names, but the GP-25 says "grenade launcher" in the Create-a-Class window, and it says the same on the HUD when you equip it in-game. --Wuzh (talk) 06:51, 2 December 2017 (EST)
About the AIM-looking variant for the AKM
@Ultimate94ninja: I can't find that variant (AK-47 特别版, translated as AK-47 special version) in this current build of the game, and I also can't find the variant with the AIMS-style folding stock and 75-round drum magazine. I'm not sure if they were removed from the game or just removed from the store. However, the AIM foregrip is currently present as an attachment for the AK, and so is the AIMS folding stock, but not the drum magazine. I'm not sure if I should dig a little deeper and keep on trying to find that specific variant or just replace them with my images of AK with attachments. Any thoughts? --Wuzh (talk) 10:31, 2 December 2017 (EST)
Ah, well, they're still going with a lot of changes in this game; it's possible that those were removed. If that's really the case, then sure, feel free to replace the current foregrip image with that of an AKM with attachments; you could combine both the grip and side-folding stock for this and we'll just mention the resemblance to the AIMS without having to include the wooden stock AIM. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 10:58, 2 December 2017 (EST)
Also, could you replace the older loadout menu screenshots for the Skorpion and the "Type 97" with full-res new ones? (without paint jobs, if possible) It would also be handy to have some screenshots of the MP5K and the Thompson with foregrips (if they're still available to them), to compare them with their real-life counterparts; some screencaps of the portable Minigun in Infected or Cyborg modes would be great as well! --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 12:03, 11 December 2017 (EST)
I can get some images of MP5K and Thompson with foregrips, but I don't think I can get loadout images for the Skorpion or the 97 as of now. These two weapons are only available from black market credits/tokens (which is a relatively common drop in supply drops), and I need 50 to get one. The problem is, you don't get them from an in-game menu. You get them from a website accessed in-game ([this actual webpage]), and for that reason they don't show up in the in-game store and you can't preview them. The only way to get loadout images for them is to get them, which I highly doubt I will be able to.
EDIT: About the foregrips, they're the generic vertical/angled foregrips of nondescript/fictional design. The only different foregrip I know that exists in the game is the one on the Warfare Classic Thompson, which is an M1928 foregrip, but that one isn't added to the shop yet (unlike the Mosin Nagant) so I can't get a preview image of it yet. --Wuzh (talk) 04:38, 12 December 2017 (EST)
New thing. I think I found some information about the variant with the drum mag. For whatever reason, ONE AK variant (not even a fancy one with a remodeling, a green-quality one with just a skin) called AK-47 梅 (AK-47 Plum) has some special attachments, one of which is the drum mag. It does hold 45 in the drum mag that should be able to hold 70, and you can mod it to look like the AIMS with drum mag by adding the tactical stock and foregrip. It can also simultaneously use two tactical stocks for some reason, but this is a patched bug.
The problem is that this variant also doesn't show up in the store (for now). I've heard that it is formerly the AK-47 special version we talked about above that was present in an event and later removed from the store after the event ended, and then got a reskin and a rename. I have no way to get this thing now unless some other player blesses me with one in a random match.
Internet search provided us with a picture of it though, though we don't have the foregrip on this pic. Here it is. (there're also videos of it in action showing the drum) Does IMFDB allow pulling screenshots from the internet? (If I'm allowed I can get images for the other non-store Classical Warfare guns too.) --Wuzh (talk) 09:35, 12 December 2017 (EST)
Getting images from wikis or personal YouTube videos is sometimes frowned upon here, specifically if obtaining the particular screencaps on our own is easy. But in this case, I don't think there should be a problem with getting an image like this (as long as it's not watermarked and doesn't feature personal usernames, etc.), especially that it's hard to obtain screencaps for this game since we don't have many users from China other than you. If you want, you can put the link in the image description, for the sake of crediting. That said, I don't think this particular image is really needed, since it doesn't provide much relevant content to the page aside from the drum mag (if it were a different weapon, that's another story). --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 03:59, 18 December 2017 (EST)
Some Random Sources For Old Versions (Chinese)
Outside of general Baidu-ing (Chinese google), here's a list of some random sources for old versions of the game. Usefulness may vary.
This game changed a lot over the years. It was originally called Call of Duty Online: Modern Warfare, and most of the firearms have correct capacities and are more realistic looking. They looked pretty close to that trailer footage above back then.
I hadn't been playing the game as recently (I just plain don't like it), but they added an "M1 Garand" to the black market in the same update they added Battle Royale.
The hilarious thing is, despite not even looking remotely like an M1 Garand, it works just like one. It uses an en-bloc clip (visibly holding 8 rounds) that holds 16 rounds (and a ridiculous 24 with extended mag), uses the correct reload procedure with the ping, the extra button press for non-empty reloads, and non-sticky bolt unlike COD WW2. (it also uses an experimental cartridge for its final shot in the magazine allowing one-shot kills on torso but who cares)
I'm not even sure if we can call it an M1 Garand or "some weird crap recycled from Advanced Warfare". (Also they added new Lee Enfield skin for Intervention)
--Wuzh (talk) 03:03, 21 February 2018 (EST)
Looks to me like it's mostly based on the non-DLC sniper rifle from Deus Ex: Human Revolution.
Here. Since I don't understand Chinese, what is this, a variant of an existing weapon or a standalone one? --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 06:50, 21 March 2018 (EDT)
New assault rifle, currently in the test servers. Animations are recycled from the SPBC. --Wuzh (talk) 07:22, 21 March 2018 (EDT)
Thanks. I'll leave to you the task of adding it to the page if it's added to the game, since you know about it more than I do. Also another question, if you're in the mood: I've seen reports of new "hybrid" weapons added to the game: "Mandate", "Chaos" and "Judgment". Provided that the names are correct, what's the default class of each one and to what type of weapon can they turn into? --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 07:36, 21 March 2018 (EDT)
There are a few transforming guns in the game right now (all of them using Tencent's own out-of-game store I mentioned in the M1 Garand section). I'm not sure which are which, but I'll list them all.
There are six transforming weapons in the game. All of the transforming guns are two weapons merged together, having stats based on two different weapons as their different forms (with a few extra attributes here and there), and all have unique animations. I don't know their English names, so I'll put Chinese names and add literal translations. Categories are written in the bracket after the merged weapons:
天命 (literally: Mandate I think, since the meaning of the word is Destiny but has more divine connotations, literally roughly "Sky's Order" so Mandate)：M4A1 Tech+AA12 (AR)
Oh well, those Raven Software folks will never fail to amuse me. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 09:37, 21 March 2018 (EDT)
Well it's mostly Tencenttown over here. Tencent FPSs have a "distinct" art style (they learned it from Korean F2P FPS aesthetics). The transforming weapons are actually the better looking weapons in a better looking Tencent FPS. You do NOT want to know how bad things can get when you check out some of the other weapons in Tencent F2P FPS lineup. --Wuzh (talk) 22:18, 21 March 2018 (EDT)
Well, there's a new one, 天启 (which apparently translates to "Apocalypse"). If I'm not mistaken, it's an SMG in its base form (with the stats of the UMP), transforming then into a sniper rifle with the stats of the MSR, albeit with some kind of self-chambering bolt-action mechanism akin to the "SVG-100" from BO3. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 17:40, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
And another one, 死神 (translates to "Death"); from what I've seen, it's an AR (stats of the Honey Badger but without a suppressor), transforming into a pump-action shotgun ("CSG-12" stats). --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 13:02, 11 August 2018 (EDT)
Now there's one that apparently called "Hallucination", but I can't find info about it since I don't know exactly how it's called in-game, and the literal translation of "Hallucination" to Chinese doesn't lead to anything related to it. Also, I've seen gameplay of a spiked bat; how is it called exactly in the game? --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 15:51, 3 November 2018 (EDT)
The "Hallucination" is named 幻视 in Chinese. Apparently "Hallucination" is MR23 stats + SMG5 stats. The spiked bat is just one amongst the many melee weapons in the game and I know basically nothing about them, since basically all of them need money to use. --Wuzh (talk) 16:39, 3 November 2018 (EDT)
Thanks :D do you have any idea if those melee weapons have their own "melee" class? Or are they considered as some sorts of special weapons among with the crossbow, riot shield, ballistic knife, etc.? (maybe you don't know that, since you're not buying them, but just in case) --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 17:20, 3 November 2018 (EDT)
Melee Weapons are in their own category (近战武器 in Chinese), and don't replace the instant melee button, instead occupying the secondary weapon slot. The crossbow is categorized as a launcher in secondary, while a compound bow is in the primary slot in the sniper rifle category. The ballistic knife is a secondary in the Melee category. The riot shield "apparently" is in the same category in Melee weapons, but it is in the primary slot. Also the spiked bat is named "Lucille" (露希尔 in Chinese), a reference to TWD. --Wuzh (talk) 17:37, 3 November 2018 (EDT)
By that compound bow, you mean the "Sparrow" from BO3, eh? I saw that you mentioned the latter in your userpage (and saw actual footage of it in CODOL). --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 17:50, 3 November 2018 (EDT)
No. Not the sparrow. A different normal weapon, not a killstreak. --Wuzh (talk) 18:56, 3 November 2018 (EDT)
Isn't this thing more of a Mossberg given the tang safety on the rear of the receiver? I don't see much of the Benelli M3 in it other than the stock.--AgentGumby (talk) 11:51, 23 May 2018 (EDT)
Here's a right side view of the shotgun; it seems to be a hybrid. It does have a tang safety, and there's something at the bottom end of the receiver that looks similar to a Mossberg. However, the ejection port is different; the latter does in fact look like that of a Benelli M3 and some other semi-auto shotguns. Now, in addition to the stock, the pistol grip must have been inspired by the M3, but the weapon model lacks the fire selector that should normally be at the end of the M3's pumping handle. The trigger guard is unique, and the pumping handle seems to have been inspired by something like a Benelli Nova and received some tweaks. Opinions? --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 09:00, 2 July 2018 (EDT)
Anyway, I guess I'll modify the info about this weapon and just list is as a frankengun inspired by the Benelli and the Mossberg (with the title "CSG-12" in quotation marks, as with usual fictional guns). Is there any objection before I go for it? --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 11:49, 10 July 2018 (EDT)
Sorry for the late reply, yeah, that sounds about right. The pump does look really Nova-ish with added diagonal serrations, I think it's closest to the Supernova Tactical given the stock setup, with a Mossberg 930-like receiver given the cutout for the nonexistent bolt handle.--AgentGumby (talk) 12:27, 10 July 2018 (EDT)
Editing Hiatus
As is evident from my lack of major contributions to the page for more than half a year now, I am no longer playing CODOL. I find the core COD gameplay loop stress-inducing and CODOL itself a boring, poorly-made, and scammy derivative work from Tencent. I might still contribute some text info researched from Chinese websites, but it most unlikely for me to upload any new images for the game.
As a side note, researching on CODOL's original MW2-like Beta forms is basically impossible, so I gave up on that too. --Wuzh (talk) 16:47, 3 November 2018 (EDT)
Call of Duty: Legends of War
So there is this mobile COD again from Tencent which appears to recycle the stuff from COD Online + added BO2 things. Does this game deserve its own article? --Nanomat (talk) 14:15, 28 January 2019 (EST)
Nah, we don't make pages for games that are exclusive to mobile. Not that it makes a difference anyway, considering that almost all weapons in this one are recycled from those games (it also has the Winchester 1200 from Modern Warfare and the "Purifier" flamethrower from BO3), with the main alterations that I recall being the M4 model, the "LK24" (an uber-modified version of the Infiniti G37H from CoD Online, if I'm not mistaken), and the L86 model from Online turned into an A1 due to the charging handle (like in MW2 and 3) and given an X Products drum mag. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 14:45, 28 January 2019 (EST)
Well, yeah the game is essentially "COD Online the mobile" which leads me to another idea. Maybe we can put subsections of the guns with their Legends of War counterparts similar to the COD4/MWR treatment. --Nanomat (talk) 15:24, 29 January 2019 (EST)
M260B stock
So, I start this discussion because my dude Wuzh expressed some doubts in regards to my identification of the gun's stock. I'm on the opinion that the general shape is based on Ultimax 100 but he is opposing this. Now I put this image here for the IMFDB crowd to decide:
I personally believe that games like CODOL use weapon shapes as primary bases, and then modify them to fictional designs under one central art style, like "angular-sci-fi" with CODOL. I find it unlikely that they would deliberately find a stock from a completely unrelated machine gun and model a stock based on that; it is more likely a coincidence that the in-game stock resembled the real weapon. --Wuzh (talk) 20:54, 7 February 2019 (EST)
You are absolutely right about the angular sci fi style and so on but I would argue that they DO DELIBERATELY find stocks from completely unrelated guns and mix them and I have proof. The proof is Modern Warfare Remastered and other COD games that clearly have frankenguns. I can't comprehend where do you come up with the idea that they definitely don't mix guns considering that there is clear evidence that they do. But I suggest to wait somebody else to express his opinion on the matter. --Nanomat (talk) 21:14, 7 February 2019 (EST)
Maybe we could compromise - say, something like "...and its stock's shape has been altered, with the result resembling the stock of an Ultimax 100." I'd think that that'd work as an inclusive description; thoughts? Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 21:19, 7 February 2019 (EST)
Call of Duty: Mobile
I know that mobile games are not allowed on IMFDB, however, I have another idea. Considering that mobile is basically more or less COD Online... but on mobile, we could treat it the same way as MW Remastered. Most of the weapons are the same with some exceptions like the M4A1 and G36 getting new visuals so we could add subsections similarly to how we did with MW Remastered.
I think it is important we do something with COD Mobile as the game became quite big with around 100 million downloads and considering that there is no other place like IMFDB to identify the depicted guns, I believe it is up to us to deal with this issue. Even IGCD dedicated a page for COD Mobile yet there is no firearms database for it. What do you think? Should we make a small exception for COD Mobile? --Nanomat (talk) 09:03, 10 October 2019 (EDT)
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