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:I need to chime in on this. I've been getting this re-direct for the past few months on two different phones (Sony Xperia XZ and XZ2 Premium, both on Chrome). -- [[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] ([[User talk:HashiriyaR32|talk]]) 21:35, 20 January 2019 (EST) | :I need to chime in on this. I've been getting this re-direct for the past few months on two different phones (Sony Xperia XZ and XZ2 Premium, both on Chrome). -- [[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] ([[User talk:HashiriyaR32|talk]]) 21:35, 20 January 2019 (EST) | ||
::^ So I'm not the only one. I'm using Chrome too, on a Galaxy device. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 07:14, 21 January 2019 (EST) | ::^ So I'm not the only one. I'm using Chrome too, on a Galaxy device. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 07:14, 21 January 2019 (EST) | ||
Also checked some other browsers (namely, default Galaxy's browser, Opera and UC). I didn't get redirects on default browser (the only one on my phone without any kind of adblocker). Looks like it's Chrome's problem. [[User:Lunar Watcher|Lunar Watcher]] ([[User talk:Lunar Watcher|talk]]) 19:19, 27 January 2019 (EST) | |||
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See Talk:Main_Page/Archive_1, Talk:Main_Page/Archive_2, Talk:Main_Page/Archive_3 Talk:Main_Page/Archive_4 Talk:Main_Page/Archive_5, Talk:Main_Page/Archive_6, Talk:Main_Page/Archive_7 or Talk:Main_Page/Archive_8 for older discussions:
COMMON ISSUES, CHECK HERE FIRST:
The page thumbnail isn't updating when I upload a new version of an image
IMFDB uses a hosting service called Cloudflare. One side-effect of this is that there is a Cloudflare server between IMFDB's server and you, so uploading a new version of an image updates the image on the actual server, but it doesn't update the one stored in Cloudflare's cache for a while, and that's what people see. You can force an update to the thumbnail by changing the size of the displayed image by even a single pixel, but the image itself you just have to wait for. So just change it from, say 600px to 601px after uploading the new image and it should update on the page.
I got this weird message about failing to create an image and the mwstore?
For reasons that are unclear, the image uploader dislikes certain combinations of numbers being present in a filename. Try re-submitting but removing any strings of multiple numbers from the filename (eg change LordOfTheRings-1911-1.jpg to LordOfTheRings-ColtPistol-1.jpg).
2019
May you all have a great 2019! Happy New Year! --Ben41 (talk) 16:46, 31 December 2018 (EST)
- Damn, I was hoping to beat everyone else to it this year. Stupid timezones... well, regardless, best wishes to everybody here! Here's to hoping that 2019 turns out well. Cheers, Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 16:58, 31 December 2018 (EST)
- Happy New Year! Best wishes to everybody, in all corners of our Earth! Greg-Z (talk) 18:26, 31 December 2018 (EST)
- Guess what everyone? It's finally the Blade Runner year! Go get your spinners and PKD Blasters and hunt those skinjobs from the face of the Earth!--Mazryonh (talk) 20:56, 31 December 2018 (EST)
- ^ Stay away from my pleasure model, bud! And a kickass 2019 to all. ;) StanTheMan (talk) 20:59, 31 December 2018 (EST)
- Guess what everyone? It's finally the Blade Runner year! Go get your spinners and PKD Blasters and hunt those skinjobs from the face of the Earth!--Mazryonh (talk) 20:56, 31 December 2018 (EST)
- Happy New Year! Best wishes to everybody, in all corners of our Earth! Greg-Z (talk) 18:26, 31 December 2018 (EST)
Foreign language titles with translated titles that start with "The"
So the IMFDB policy on films with foreign titles only is to use a translated title and include the original title in brackets after the title. However, when "The" appears at the start of the translated title, our policy is apparently to move it to the end of the title too. This creates confusing titles like Gleiwitz Case (Der Fall Gleiwitz), The, White Guard (Belaya gvardiya), The, or the extremely confusing Star (Zvezda), The (1949), which adds a year at the end of the title. These titles are very confusing for several reasons: one is that the title is partially broken up due to the "The" policy, meaning that the translated title loses its "The", which can change its meaning. Two is that these translated titles are not actually official titles; sorting them with or without "the" is meaningless since we're sorting them by an unofficial title created solely for IMFDB. If anything, they should be sorted by their original language title. Thus, I propose that these titles should be exempt from the "The" rule, and they should use {{DEFAULTSORT}} to sort them based on their original language titles. --Wuzh (talk) 15:23, 12 January 2019 (EST)
- We add years to differentiate between same-named titles; remakes and series and so forth. It's a unilateral practice and one that I fail to see makes anything more confusing. That said, our rule on the matter seems to handle the rest of your so-called 'problem'. If there's no official title, we use a translated title except in certain instances, simple as that. This is how we do it, and have done it for all this time with - until now - no complaint whatsoever that I'm aware of. And if the translation includes a 'the' to it (and I'll grant that may be an optional linguistic liberty in some cases), well there it is. I don't think anybody's willing to get into a debate on the merits of translation and usage here. That aside this is just an extension of your previous complaint about the 'the' issue, and like that issue this is a 'problem' that again no one has raised as such other than you. StanTheMan (talk) 16:37, 12 January 2019 (EST)
- Fine. With no support, I'm not gonna pursue a policy change. But my opinion won't be changing in the slightest. The IMFDB policy is very flawed and is only maintained out of sheer laziness. --Wuzh (talk) 18:03, 12 January 2019 (EST)
- Hey I'm just one user who provided a counterargument, I don't decide things around here or anything so don't be defeated so quick - at least give it a bit and see how others respond. Not saying it will make a change happen per-say but who knows? That said you can have any opinion you like about the standards - I certainly don't agree with absolutely everything myself - but they're what we got and what we operate on; saying one way is poorer or better is mostly subjective. For the record, I'm pretty sure the RS&P were arrived at with some consideration and thought. Which brings me to my final 'for the record' remark: I doubt calling the rest of us lazy is going to gain you any support in anything. Just sayin'. StanTheMan (talk) 19:20, 12 January 2019 (EST)
- Sorry. My meanings came out wrong. I meant that the policy was "lazy" in the sense that it was never challenged despite having obvious flaws. --Wuzh (talk) 20:05, 12 January 2019 (EST)
- Clarification accepted, and kind of goes to my original point - Maybe it hasn't been challenged because it's just not that big an issue in the first place. Again just sayin'. StanTheMan (talk) 14:03, 13 January 2019 (EST)
- Sorry. My meanings came out wrong. I meant that the policy was "lazy" in the sense that it was never challenged despite having obvious flaws. --Wuzh (talk) 20:05, 12 January 2019 (EST)
- Hey I'm just one user who provided a counterargument, I don't decide things around here or anything so don't be defeated so quick - at least give it a bit and see how others respond. Not saying it will make a change happen per-say but who knows? That said you can have any opinion you like about the standards - I certainly don't agree with absolutely everything myself - but they're what we got and what we operate on; saying one way is poorer or better is mostly subjective. For the record, I'm pretty sure the RS&P were arrived at with some consideration and thought. Which brings me to my final 'for the record' remark: I doubt calling the rest of us lazy is going to gain you any support in anything. Just sayin'. StanTheMan (talk) 19:20, 12 January 2019 (EST)
- Fine. With no support, I'm not gonna pursue a policy change. But my opinion won't be changing in the slightest. The IMFDB policy is very flawed and is only maintained out of sheer laziness. --Wuzh (talk) 18:03, 12 January 2019 (EST)
Frankly I'm unsure as to why the "The" rule exists at all aside from noone wanting to put in the effort to switch everything over. It's ugly and absolutely nowhere else does it. --Tamarin88 (talk) 19:40, 12 January 2019 (EST)
- We had that discussion already. That being said Tamarin now you have made the insinuation I took issue with before - one that frankly peeves me quite a bit. That said, no I don't believe there is any dire need to go about such a massive wholesale change on the site that really will improve next-to-absolutely-nothing on here aside from satisfying some aesthetic ideal. Imply we're a bunch of lazy slobs for it if you want, but again that is one of the methods that is least likely to get us to consider changing anything. But perhaps no one has bothered putting forth the effort for this 'problem' because there is none and as such the effort is not nearly worth the bother. StanTheMan (talk) 14:03, 13 January 2019 (EST)
Weird redirects on mobile
When opening the site on mobile for... let's say, the first time in a day: am I the only one who automatically gets redirected to strange websites like tlgram.me and something like sls gateway? --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 07:57, 20 January 2019 (EST)
- I checked it just now (it's first time in a day) and found no problems. You are logged or not? Sometimes there are various pop-ups for unregistered users, maybe it's this case? Greg-Z (talk) 08:24, 20 January 2019 (EST)
- Eh, it's unrelated to those pop-ups. I'm indeed logged in, and it's almost always the Recent Changes link that I open for the first time. The issue started happening with me 2-3 months ago, and I thought it was temporary, but it's still occurring as of now. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 09:01, 20 January 2019 (EST)
- Have you eliminated the possibility that it's malware on your phone? Evil Tim (talk) 10:07, 20 January 2019 (EST)
- Well, not that it's impossible, but aside from the fact that I commonly clean it up for maintenance/optimization, this literally only happens with this website (which is why I asked). Maybe it depends on the browser used or something; but anyway I'll make some more thorough cleanup and see if this persists. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 17:59, 20 January 2019 (EST)
- Have you eliminated the possibility that it's malware on your phone? Evil Tim (talk) 10:07, 20 January 2019 (EST)
- Eh, it's unrelated to those pop-ups. I'm indeed logged in, and it's almost always the Recent Changes link that I open for the first time. The issue started happening with me 2-3 months ago, and I thought it was temporary, but it's still occurring as of now. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 09:01, 20 January 2019 (EST)
- Exactly the same problem. Using Chrome on Galaxy Note 4. Lunar Watcher (talk) 19:37, 20 January 2019 (EST)
- I need to chime in on this. I've been getting this re-direct for the past few months on two different phones (Sony Xperia XZ and XZ2 Premium, both on Chrome). -- HashiriyaR32 (talk) 21:35, 20 January 2019 (EST)
- ^ So I'm not the only one. I'm using Chrome too, on a Galaxy device. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 07:14, 21 January 2019 (EST)
Also checked some other browsers (namely, default Galaxy's browser, Opera and UC). I didn't get redirects on default browser (the only one on my phone without any kind of adblocker). Looks like it's Chrome's problem. Lunar Watcher (talk) 19:19, 27 January 2019 (EST)