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[[File:Dauria-Mosin38-22.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Village Cossacks carry carbines.]]
= Discussion =
== My guess about the second shotgun ==
== My guess about the second shotgun ==
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[[Image:Yellow Fangs 8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|For comprassion]]
[[Image:Yellow Fangs 8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|For comprassion]]
: See several additional images of this gun:
[[File:Dauria-Shotgun-Add1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A safety can be seen: it matches the one of Berdan (and of Mosin too)]]
[[File:Dauria-Shotgun-Add2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The buttstock]]
[[File:Dauria-Shotgun-Add3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The bolt handle]]
None of these features match Murata, as I think. Also note different receiver shape. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 14:22, 19 December 2018 (EST)
Revision as of 19:22, 19 December 2018
Special Thanks The idea and screenshots are provided by AVSniff, forum.guns.ru. Greg-Z (talk ) 07:18, 19 December 2018 (EST)
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The barrel leight
Error creating thumbnail: File missing Error creating thumbnail: File missing For comprassion. Error creating thumbnail: File missing The widing part of the barrel.
Error creating thumbnail: File missing Error creating thumbnail: File missing For comprassion. Error creating thumbnail: File missing The shape of the stock:
Error creating thumbnail: File missing Error creating thumbnail: File missing For comprassion See several additional images of this gun: Error creating thumbnail: File missing A safety can be seen: it matches the one of Berdan (and of Mosin too) Error creating thumbnail: File missing The buttstock Error creating thumbnail: File missing The bolt handle None of these features match Murata, as I think. Also note different receiver shape. Greg-Z (talk ) 14:22, 19 December 2018 (EST)
