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During Anthony's tour in Vietnam, he carries a [[Mossberg 590]] shotgun, which is an anachronism.  The Mossberg 590 wasn't introduced until 1987.  Anthony's Mossberg also swapped out the original wood with sporting wood taken off of a 500C model.
During Anthony's tour in Vietnam, he carries a [[Mossberg 590]] shotgun, which is an anachronism.  The Mossberg 590 wasn't introduced until 1987.  Anthony's Mossberg also swapped out the original wood with sporting wood taken off of a 500C model.
[[Image:Mossberg 590.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 590 12 gauge.]]
[[Image:Mossberg590Modified.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 590 Combat model (Parkerized) with 500AT wood forearm and stock - 12 gauge.]]
[[Image:Mossberg.png|thumb|none|600px|Anthony fires his [[Mossberg 590]] in the jungle. Note bayonet lug, heat shield, and Mossberg Sporting wood furniture.  Historically, this gun would not be introduced until 1987.]]
[[Image:Mossberg.png|thumb|none|600px|Anthony fires his [[Mossberg 590]] in the jungle. Note bayonet lug, heat shield, and Mossberg Sporting wood furniture.  Historically, this gun would not be introduced until 1987.]]
[[Image:MossbergChamber.png|thumb|none|600px|Anthony realizes his shotgun is out of ammo. Note the Mossberg style chamber and trigger guard.]]
[[Image:MossbergChamber.png|thumb|none|600px|Anthony realizes his shotgun is out of ammo. Note the Mossberg style chamber and trigger guard.]]

Revision as of 03:38, 15 May 2009

Dead Presidents (1995)

The following guns were used in the movie Dead Presidents.

Smith & Wesson Model 36

After Kirby goes to collect some debts with Anthony as his unknowing getaway driver, a woman threatens him with a small silver revolver. He easily wrestles it from her, and is attacked by another man from the shop, who accidentally takes Kirby's prosthetic leg off. Kirby falls to the floor and aims at him, claiming the entire time everyone in town knows he has one leg, and he pulled the wrong one. As they get away in Kirby's car, Anthony notices Kirby set down the revolver, which is quite obviously a nickel plated Smith and Wesson Model 36. Another blued Model 36 "Flat Latch" is seen on the table in the planning room, and is used as Anthony's sidearm during the robbery, from which he fires 3 rounds before running out of ammunition on the second police officer he attempts to kill with it.

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Smith & Wesson Model 36 - .38 special - 5 shot. Early Model with the flat cylinder release latch.
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Kirby points the obtained Smith & Wesson Model 36 at the man.
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Kirby sets the Smith & Wesson Model 36 down on the seat of his car.
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Anthony looks at the Smith & Wesson Model 36 on the seat. Note the S&W Emblem.
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A Smith & Wesson Model 36 "Flat Latch" sits on the table in the planning room.
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Anthony aims his Smith & Wesson Model 36 at the police officer only to hear the click of an empty gun. Should have put the extra two rounds in.

Mossberg 590

During Anthony's tour in Vietnam, he carries a Mossberg 590 shotgun, which is an anachronism. The Mossberg 590 wasn't introduced until 1987. Anthony's Mossberg also swapped out the original wood with sporting wood taken off of a 500C model.

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Mossberg 590 Combat model (Parkerized) with 500AT wood forearm and stock - 12 gauge.
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Anthony fires his Mossberg 590 in the jungle. Note bayonet lug, heat shield, and Mossberg Sporting wood furniture. Historically, this gun would not be introduced until 1987.
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Anthony realizes his shotgun is out of ammo. Note the Mossberg style chamber and trigger guard.

M16A1/XM16E1

Many of the men in the Marine Recon unit use the M16A1 rifle. Lieutenant Dugan's is noteworthy in that it is configured like an M16A1, but it has the original M16 three prong flash hider.

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M16A1 with 20 round magazine - 5.56x45mm
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D'Ambrosio, and another member of the Marine Recon unit firing on the enemy with M16A1 rifles.
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Dugan aims his XM16E1 (poorly, his stance is not firm and he's closing his right eye). Note the three prong flash hider, distinguishing it as an XM16E1.

M3A1 "Grease Gun"

As Anthony is the designated shotgunner, the platoon Staff Sergeant, Cleon, is the designated autogunner. He carries an M3A1 "Grease Gun", which in the movie has a very memorable muzzle report and slow fire rate.

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M3A1 "Grease Gun" .45 ACP
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Cleon reloads his M3A1 "Grease Gun".
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Cleon cocks his M3A1 "Grease Gun", the way he charges it distinguishes it as an M3A1.
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Cleon aims his M3A1 "Grease Gun" next to Dugan. Boy, these Marines have terrible stance.

PPSh-41 Submachine Gun

When searching for intel the jungle after calling in an airstrike, D'Ambrosio finds a PPSh-41 Submachine Gun and moves it from one of the bodies.

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PPSH-41 submachine gun 7.62x25mm Tokarev
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D'Ambrosio moves the PPSh-41 Submachine Gun searching for intel.

1911A1/Government Model

In a few short clips, Dugan and Cleon can be seen using their 1911A1 sidearms, Dugan fires for cover, while Cleon executes a man with a shot to the back of the head. Later, during the robbery, a nickel plated model is used by both Kirby, who fires a whopping 11 rounds without locking, and Skip. A Government Model is used by Delilah, along with a blued Commander.


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Colt 1911A1 Pistol - .45 ACP.
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Colt 1911 Series 70 .45 ACP
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Dugan reloads his 1911A1 after firing for cover.
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"Now, you're good. Now, Jesus loves you."
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Kirby fires on the police officer attempting to intervene in the armored car robbery with a nickel plated 1911A1.
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Skip executes the police officer as he takes cover behind a mailbox, with a nickel plated 1911A1.
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Delilah armed with a blued Commander in her left hand, and a Colt Government Model in her right hand.
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Delilah lies dead with an empty Colt Government Model. Somehow it managed to get into her left hand.

RPD Light Machine Gun

When Dugan goes for cover after unloading his 1911A1, we see that a machine gun crew armed with an RPD Light Machine Gun is firing upon him. It is not the Chinese copy as the front sight has an open hood.

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RPD Light Machine Gun - 7.62x39mm
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The machine gun crew fires upon Dugan with their Russian RPD Light Machine Gun.

Norinco Type 56 (AK47 and SKS)

During the night Recon mission, the Recon unit is fired upon, most of their enemies being armed with Norinco Type 56s, both the AK47 and SKS clones.

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Norinco Type 56 (fixed stock variant) with under-folding bayonet - 7.62x39mm
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Chinese Type 56 Carbine aka the Chinese SKS rifle - 7.62x39mm.
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An enemy fires at the Recon squad with a Type 56 AK47 clone.
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Close up of an enemy soldier armed with a Type 56 SKS.

Colt Combat Commander 9mm

A little while after Anthony returns home, he learns of his girlfriends affair with a man named Cutty, as he frequently visits Anthony's girlfriend and child in their home with money to help them get by. Eventually Anthony snaps and tells Cutty to "stay the fuck away from his family" to which Cutty responds angrily by throwing Anthony down a flight of stairs. He then draws a well polished nickel plated Colt Combat Commander in 9mm (denoted as a 9 by it's smaller chamber and bore diameter) from his coat, and aims it at Anthony's head, telling him to "suck it." Another blued one is used by Delilah in the armored car robbery with her Government Model.

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Colt Combat Commander - .45 ACP.
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Close up of Cutty's Commander as he approaches Anthony at the bottom of the stairwell. Note the small chamber and bore.
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Cutty aims his Commander at Anthony, telling him to "suck it."
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Cutty takes his Commander off of Anthony's head. Note the Colt stamps on the bottom of the magazine.
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Delilah armed with a blued Commander in her left hand, and a Colt Government Model in her right hand.

Remington 870

Anthony's primary weapon during the armored truck robbery is a Remington 870 equipped with a pistol grip, and a short vent rib barrel with a blade front sight. As he falls to the floor to avoid Delilah's cover fire, the pump changes from that of a hunting one to a police style one, and the front sight disappears.

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Remington 870 12 gauge with sawed off barrel and stock
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Anthony brandishes his Remington 870.
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Anthony holds his Remington 870 on a police officer.
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Anthony cocks his Remington 870 on the floor. Note the pump change.

Ithaca 37

As the armored car driver notices the gang moving in on the car, he calls "ambush" and a police officer in the back seat racks an Ithaca 37 and points it through the slit in the van, firing on Joe.

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Ithaca 37 12 gauge.
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The police officer in the armored car with an Ithaca 37.

Smith & Wesson Model 10

The police officer who attempts to intervene in the armored truck robbery uses a Smith & Wesson Model 10. He is drawn by Kirby's 11 rounds fired from his Commander, and returns 9 of his own from his six shot revolver, making their gun battle highly fictitious. Another Smith & Wesson Model 10 is used by Joe in the planning room, and after the robbery as he fires 8 rounds without reloading at a pursuing police car.

Are you sure this is a Model 10? Looks like a .357 to me. MoviePropMaster2008 02:35, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
The only .357 it'd match would be the Model 13, and since the Model 10 and Model 13 are so incredibly similar, denoting the exact model is nigh impossible. Locically it has to be a Model 10 though, since Joe fires it so easily. A .357 would kick too much.
It wouldn't matter, it's a movie and he's shooting blanks, which don't kick. - Gunmaster45
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Smith & Wesson Model 10 HB (Heavy Barrel) Revolver - .38 Special
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Joe aims his Smith & Wesson Model 10 in the planning room.
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The intervening police officer fires on Kirby with his Smith & Wesson Model 10.
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Joe aims his Smith & Wesson Model 10 at an approaching police car.

Colt New Service

Most of the police officers carry a Colt New Service revolver.

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The Colt New Service.

This is not a Colt new service, it's clearly a .38/.357 caliber and not a .45. It also has a newer construction and a Trooper hammer.