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I don't mind as saying that it is a GAU-5A/A with an imaginary flat top, but the thing I would object to is actually titling the section "GAU-5A/A" rather than "Commando". When a section is titled after a real gun that is us saying that the gun in question '''is''' that gun. That is not the case here, as the Commando is essentially a fictional gun that may (or in fact may not) be based on a GAU-5A/A. In these cases it is our convention to title the section whatever the gun is called in game with quoatation marks, so in this case "Commando". Also, on the topic of this edit what specifically made you say that the AK is an AK-74 prototype? To me, one of the things that we can tell for sure is that it is definitely not that, as it has the hardware for a folding stock on the receiver (button at the back, catch at the front to hold the folded stock) so it is either based on an AKS-74, AK-74M, or a 100 series AK. The problem is that all of those have 90 degree gas blocks whilst this gun has a 45 degree one, and all of those guns have AK-74 front sights and muzzle brakes and this gun doesn't (I can't tell what front sight it has, in the 3rd person image it looks like a wide AK-47 type one but i think this is just weird scaling and it is actually a narrow AKM type one). When you add on to this the fact that it has smooth wood handguard without a palm swell, a type 2 AK fixed stock, and a type 3 AK receiver mounted rear sling loop, I think it is pretty fair to call this thing a composite. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 07:44, 28 March 2018 (EDT) | I don't mind as saying that it is a GAU-5A/A with an imaginary flat top, but the thing I would object to is actually titling the section "GAU-5A/A" rather than "Commando". When a section is titled after a real gun that is us saying that the gun in question '''is''' that gun. That is not the case here, as the Commando is essentially a fictional gun that may (or in fact may not) be based on a GAU-5A/A. In these cases it is our convention to title the section whatever the gun is called in game with quoatation marks, so in this case "Commando". Also, on the topic of this edit what specifically made you say that the AK is an AK-74 prototype? To me, one of the things that we can tell for sure is that it is definitely not that, as it has the hardware for a folding stock on the receiver (button at the back, catch at the front to hold the folded stock) so it is either based on an AKS-74, AK-74M, or a 100 series AK. The problem is that all of those have 90 degree gas blocks whilst this gun has a 45 degree one, and all of those guns have AK-74 front sights and muzzle brakes and this gun doesn't (I can't tell what front sight it has, in the 3rd person image it looks like a wide AK-47 type one but i think this is just weird scaling and it is actually a narrow AKM type one). When you add on to this the fact that it has smooth wood handguard without a palm swell, a type 2 AK fixed stock, and a type 3 AK receiver mounted rear sling loop, I think it is pretty fair to call this thing a composite. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 07:44, 28 March 2018 (EDT) | ||
:The main obvious difference between an AKM and AK-74 FSB is that the latter has a bayonet lug, but it isn't just stuck on there, it is on an extension coming out the back of it. There are other differences like how the cleaning rod is retained, but the most obvious is the bayonet lug. [http://cdn3.volusion.com/vawhb.dxcnr/v/vspfiles/photos/Sight-block-AKM-2.jpg Here is an AKM one], and [http://www.dinzagarms.com/saiga_762x39/large/74-fsb.jpg here is an AK-74 one] for comparison. In these image you can also see that there is a big difference with how the muzzle threads are, as on the AKM the barrel is threaded but with the 74 the front sight block holds the threading which is larger diameter. There is another front sight block which is the Romanian one which looks a bit more like an AKM one with just the bayonet lug stuck underneath ([http://oi62.tinypic.com/o6mqo5.jpg here]) which doesn't have the lug coming off of the back due top how the Romanian brake is narrow so is slightly longer. I'll have a go at fixing the entries in the page later when I'm home from work to try and clear things up a bit. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:49, 28 March 2018 (EDT) | |||
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re: BO edit
I don't mind as saying that it is a GAU-5A/A with an imaginary flat top, but the thing I would object to is actually titling the section "GAU-5A/A" rather than "Commando". When a section is titled after a real gun that is us saying that the gun in question is that gun. That is not the case here, as the Commando is essentially a fictional gun that may (or in fact may not) be based on a GAU-5A/A. In these cases it is our convention to title the section whatever the gun is called in game with quoatation marks, so in this case "Commando". Also, on the topic of this edit what specifically made you say that the AK is an AK-74 prototype? To me, one of the things that we can tell for sure is that it is definitely not that, as it has the hardware for a folding stock on the receiver (button at the back, catch at the front to hold the folded stock) so it is either based on an AKS-74, AK-74M, or a 100 series AK. The problem is that all of those have 90 degree gas blocks whilst this gun has a 45 degree one, and all of those guns have AK-74 front sights and muzzle brakes and this gun doesn't (I can't tell what front sight it has, in the 3rd person image it looks like a wide AK-47 type one but i think this is just weird scaling and it is actually a narrow AKM type one). When you add on to this the fact that it has smooth wood handguard without a palm swell, a type 2 AK fixed stock, and a type 3 AK receiver mounted rear sling loop, I think it is pretty fair to call this thing a composite. --commando552 (talk) 07:44, 28 March 2018 (EDT)
- The main obvious difference between an AKM and AK-74 FSB is that the latter has a bayonet lug, but it isn't just stuck on there, it is on an extension coming out the back of it. There are other differences like how the cleaning rod is retained, but the most obvious is the bayonet lug. Here is an AKM one, and here is an AK-74 one for comparison. In these image you can also see that there is a big difference with how the muzzle threads are, as on the AKM the barrel is threaded but with the 74 the front sight block holds the threading which is larger diameter. There is another front sight block which is the Romanian one which looks a bit more like an AKM one with just the bayonet lug stuck underneath (here) which doesn't have the lug coming off of the back due top how the Romanian brake is narrow so is slightly longer. I'll have a go at fixing the entries in the page later when I'm home from work to try and clear things up a bit. --commando552 (talk) 13:49, 28 March 2018 (EDT)
