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I am curious on how they got that thing, does someone know? Or is this actually just a mock up? --[[User:DAN11|DAN11]] ([[User talk:DAN11|talk]]) 07:10, 1 March 2013 (EST) | I am curious on how they got that thing, does someone know? Or is this actually just a mock up? --[[User:DAN11|DAN11]] ([[User talk:DAN11|talk]]) 07:10, 1 March 2013 (EST) | ||
:Nope, it's a real one. I remember years ago, John Bowring, the Australian armorer who supplied the weapons for this film (and also ''[[The Matrix]]'' films), did an interview with MadOgre where he mentioned that he got two H&K PDW/MP7 prototypes directly from H&K that he intended to provide for ''[[The Matrix Reloaded]]'' (they were supposed to be Trinity's weapons). However, when Rock Galotti (an American armorer/gun coach) was brought on board, he and Bowring apparently had some creative differences, and as a result, Trinity wound up using Micro Uzis, and the PDWs weren't used in ''[[The Matrix Reloaded]]''. Apparently, Bowring was instead able to | :Nope, it's a real one. I remember years ago, John Bowring, the Australian armorer who supplied the weapons for this film (and also ''[[The Matrix]]'' films), did an interview with MadOgre where he mentioned that he got two H&K PDW/MP7 prototypes directly from H&K that he intended to provide for ''[[The Matrix Reloaded]]'' (they were supposed to be Trinity's weapons). However, when Rock Galotti (an American armorer/gun coach) was brought on board, he and Bowring apparently had some creative differences, and as a result, Trinity wound up using Micro Uzis, and the PDWs weren't used in ''[[The Matrix Reloaded]]''. Apparently, Bowring was instead able to re-purpose those PDWs for this film. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 18:06, 10 August 2017 (EDT) | ||
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Moved Discussions from the movie page
- This movie was filmed mostly in Australia, and weapons were supplied by Aussie armorers. John Bowring (who also worked on The Matrix) was lead armorer on Stealth. I have no idea if the Legend series were ever exported for civilian/cinema use to Australia.
- Yes they were. Though us lowly Americans only got a few before the iron curtain of the BATF shut down imports, Poly Technologies still exported these awesome rifles to other countries who (at the time) could own semi automatic rifles (which were then legally converted for the movie industries) or full auto rifles if their government approved the paperwork. But since America was the single largest customer of military style arms for the civilian or Police market, all of the Chinese companies started making the cheapest crappy thumbhole post ban rifles (like the MAK-90s or the NHM-91s) and didn't bother trying to match the craftsmanship of their earlier guns. I guess they anticipated (correctly) that the window for sales was closing and they tried to make as much $$ as they could.
- Regarding gun ownership in Australia, after April 28th, 1996 when a psycho path killed a bunch of Australians in the Port Arthur massacre, all semiautomatic rifles & Shotguns were banned and melted down. I assumed (like in equally draconian Great Britain) that the movie armorers avoided the fate of the regular gun owners of their own country, and managed to keep their guns.
- Come to think of it, the furniture and finish definitely resemble the PT Legend AKs I've seen with my own eyes. Of course, we have established already that my eyes can fool me!
- PT did classic Chinese Pig Sticker Milled Receiver Type 56s as well but their classic Soviet Style AK was the bomb! I would bet that Australian Armories had these babies in stock since original AK47s sadly to say would not be minty new....
- Oh, I've heard great things about the Legends, though I prefer stamped AKs myself (mine is stamped). The thing is...what do you make of the milled-receiver AKs in Lord of War and Blood Diamond? The one in Lord of War even has Cyrillic markings on the receiver near the selector, plus it looks brand-new. Custom-built, like the ones Mike Papac built for We Were Soldiers?
- PT did classic Chinese Pig Sticker Milled Receiver Type 56s as well but their classic Soviet Style AK was the bomb! I would bet that Australian Armories had these babies in stock since original AK47s sadly to say would not be minty new....
- Come to think of it, the furniture and finish definitely resemble the PT Legend AKs I've seen with my own eyes. Of course, we have established already that my eyes can fool me!
Looking for some IDs
We've got an AR15 with a weird stock that looks like it's standing in for an M16, and the pistol Sam Shepard pulls out of his washbag near the end.
Evil Tim 00:36, 9 July 2011 (CDT)
- It looks like a P99 or a SW99. It looks like the mag release is on the trigger guard. --Funkychinaman 01:08, 9 July 2011 (CDT)
- Yeah, I thought P99 as well. From the next frame, it looks like it doesn't have front cocking serrations:
Which I guess shows it's not an SW99. Base of the trigger guard looks parallel to the barrel, too. Evil Tim 01:25, 9 July 2011 (CDT)
- As an addition, that scene always cracked me up. "This is so you never confuse the difference between politicians and warriors." What, warriors shoot themselves dead in restrooms? Evil Tim 01:28, 9 July 2011 (CDT)
More IDs
Couple of thugs with pistols here, and I'm not great with those. Though I did manage to spot that the AUGs are actually Austeyrs :D
First:
- Not sure. :\ - Mr. Wolf 18:31, 11 July 2011 (CDT)
- Hmm, black with pearl grips, almost looks like 1911, but it seems double stacked. That's a pretty unique ejection port and rear sight, but I can't place it to anything.
Second:
- Too blurry, maybe a 92FS. - Mr. Wolf 18:31, 11 July 2011 (CDT)
And yes, these aren't the final captions. Evil Tim 09:57, 11 July 2011 (CDT)
HK PDW
I am curious on how they got that thing, does someone know? Or is this actually just a mock up? --DAN11 (talk) 07:10, 1 March 2013 (EST)
- Nope, it's a real one. I remember years ago, John Bowring, the Australian armorer who supplied the weapons for this film (and also The Matrix films), did an interview with MadOgre where he mentioned that he got two H&K PDW/MP7 prototypes directly from H&K that he intended to provide for The Matrix Reloaded (they were supposed to be Trinity's weapons). However, when Rock Galotti (an American armorer/gun coach) was brought on board, he and Bowring apparently had some creative differences, and as a result, Trinity wound up using Micro Uzis, and the PDWs weren't used in The Matrix Reloaded. Apparently, Bowring was instead able to re-purpose those PDWs for this film. -MT2008 (talk) 18:06, 10 August 2017 (EDT)