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[[Image:Uncommon valor dvd.jpg|thumb|right|300px|DVD cover for ''Uncommon Valor'']] | [[Image:Uncommon valor dvd.jpg|thumb|right|300px|DVD cover for ''Uncommon Valor'']] | ||
'''''Uncommon Valor''''' is a 1983 action film directed by Ted Kotcheff (''[[First Blood]]'') and stars [[Gene Hackman]] as Jason Rhodes, a retired US Marine Colonel who leads a group of Vietnam veterans and a young former Marine ([[Patrick Swayze]]) back into the country on a mission to rescue American POW's left behind, one of whom may be his son. | '''''Uncommon Valor''''' is a 1983 military action film directed by Ted Kotcheff (''[[First Blood]]'') and stars [[Gene Hackman]] as Jason Rhodes, a retired US Marine Colonel who leads a group of Vietnam veterans and a young former Marine ([[Patrick Swayze]]) back into the country on a mission to rescue American POW's left behind, one of whom may be his son. | ||
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=Rifles/Carbines= | =Rifles/Carbines= | ||
==Colt Sporter 1 Carbine (Mocked up as XM177E2)== | ==Colt Sporter 1 Carbine (Mocked up as XM177E2)== | ||
Several members of the Long Range Reconnaissance Patrol (LRRP) are also seen armed with what appear to be [[CAR-15]] rifles in the 1972 Vietnam prologue. The rifles also are used when the men train in Galveston for the mission. | Several members of the Long Range Reconnaissance Patrol (LRRP) are also seen armed with what appear to be [[CAR-15]] rifles in the 1972 Vietnam prologue. The rifles also are used when the men train in Galveston for the mission. The majority of these rifles appear to be converted [[Colt Sporter I Carbine]]s with 16" barrels to resemble the XM177 series of short rifles with an aftermarket flash hider. These conversions were in popular use in productions of the 1980s, including ''[[The Dogs of War]]''. | ||
[[Image:FakeXM177.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Late 1970s model AR15 Sporter 1 Carbine - converted into an XM177 Lookalike for the film ''Dogs of War'' - 5.56x45mm]] | [[Image:FakeXM177.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Late 1970s model AR15 Sporter 1 Carbine - converted into an XM177 Lookalike for the film ''Dogs of War'' - 5.56x45mm]] | ||
[[Image:UncommonV220.JPG|thumb|none|601px|The LRRP member on the left is seen with the carbine during the 1972 Vietnam prologue.]] | [[Image:UncommonV220.JPG|thumb|none|601px|The LRRP member on the left is seen with the carbine during the 1972 Vietnam prologue.]] | ||
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==MGC CAR-15== | ==MGC CAR-15== | ||
In the | In the 1972 Vietnam prologue, LRRP (Long Range Reconnaissance Patrol) members are seen running back to the helicopters, some (including Frank Rhodes) were carrying the MGC CAR-15 replica rifle, but were never seen firing. The CAR-15s by MGC were always sold with the replica 30 round magazines. In order to make the weapons more period accurate, some of the CAR-15s in the film took 20 round magazines off of the MGC M16 replica rifles and used those. Others retained the stock 30 round magazine. | ||
[[Image:MGC CAR-15w20RdMag.jpg|thumb|450px|none|MGC CAR-15 replica assault rifle with 20 round MGC magazine.]] | [[Image:MGC CAR-15w20RdMag.jpg|thumb|450px|none|MGC CAR-15 replica assault rifle with 20 round MGC magazine.]] | ||
[[Image:MGC CAR15.jpg|thumb|none|450px|The MGC CAR-15 Assault rifle with stock 30 round magazine.]] | [[Image:MGC CAR15.jpg|thumb|none|450px|The MGC CAR-15 Assault rifle with stock 30 round magazine.]] | ||
[[Image:UncommonV211..JPG|thumb|none|601px|Frank Rhodes ([[Todd Allen]]) carries his friend MacGregor on his back during the Vietnam sequence. Note the carbine is loaded with a 20 round magazine.]] | [[Image:UncommonV211..JPG|thumb|none|601px|Frank Rhodes ([[Todd Allen]]) carries his friend MacGregor on his back during the Vietnam sequence. Note the carbine is loaded with a 20 round magazine.]] | ||
[[Image:UncommonV221.JPG|thumb|none|601px|Frank and MacGregor are left behind. Note | [[Image:UncommonV221.JPG|thumb|none|601px|Frank and MacGregor are left behind in the 1972 Vietnam prologue. Note that this carbine is loaded with a 30-round magazine as the replicas were always sold with the curved 30 rounders.]] | ||
==M16A1== | ==M16A1== | ||
Several LRRP members are seen running with [[M16A1]]s during the | Several LRRP members are seen running with [[M16A1]]s during the 1972 Vietnam prologue. Several M16s are among the weapons confiscated while in Thailand. Some M16A1's also are seen in the underground arms cache. [[Image:M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16A1 with 20 round magazine - 5.56x45mm. What distinguishes it from the original M16 was the addition of a raised rib around the magazine release button, changing of the forward Receiver pins, and the addition of the forward assist button on the upper receiver.]] | ||
[[Image:M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16A1 with 20 round magazine - 5.56x45mm. What distinguishes it from the original M16 was the addition of a raised rib around the magazine release button, changing of the forward Receiver pins, and the addition of the forward assist button on the upper receiver.]] | [[Image:Uncommon Valor 007.JPG|thumb|none|600px|The young MacGregor is hit in the leg carrying his M16A1 during the 1972 Vietnam prologue.]] | ||
[[Image:Uncommon Valor 007.JPG|thumb|none|600px|The young MacGregor is hit in the leg carrying his M16A1 during the Vietnam | |||
[[Image:UncommonV220.JPG|thumb|none|601px|The LRRP member on the right is seen with a M16A1.]] | [[Image:UncommonV220.JPG|thumb|none|601px|The LRRP member on the right is seen with a M16A1.]] | ||
[[Image:Uncommon Valor 1 m16.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Rhodes holds an M16A1 before being told that the bargain basement weapons are in another area.]] | [[Image:Uncommon Valor 1 m16.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Rhodes holds an M16A1 before being told that the bargain basement weapons are in another area.]] | ||
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During the opening Vietnam sequence, Blaster is seen firing an [[M16]] rifle with slab side receiver. | During the opening Vietnam sequence, Blaster is seen firing an [[M16]] rifle with slab side receiver. | ||
[[Image:M16SP1Birdcage.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16 aka SP1 (flat "slab side receiver") with an A1 "birdcage" Flash hider, used to imitate the M16A1 in many Vietnam era movies. This version has a 20 round magazine - 5.56x45mm]] | [[Image:M16SP1Birdcage.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16 aka SP1 (flat "slab side receiver") with an A1 "birdcage" Flash hider, used to imitate the M16A1 in many Vietnam era movies. This version has a 20 round magazine - 5.56x45mm]] | ||
[[Image:UncommonV224.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Blaster (at right) is seen firing an M16SP1.]] | [[Image:UncommonV224.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Blaster (at right) is seen firing an M16SP1 during the 1972 Vietnam prologue.]] | ||
==Norinco Type 56== | ==Norinco Type 56== | ||
The [[Norinco Type 56]] is a common assault rifle used in movies and television to stand-in for the [[AK-47]]. Seen carried by Laotian border patrol guards as well as Jiang ([[Kwai Hi Lim]]) and Lai Fun ([[Lau Nga Lai]]). | The [[Norinco Type 56]] is a common assault rifle used in movies and television to stand-in for the [[AK-47]]. Seen carried by Laotian border patrol guards as well as Jiang ([[Kwai Hi Lim]]) and Lai Fun ([[Lau Nga Lai]]). | ||
[[Image:Type 56 export model.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Type 56 assault rifle aka M22, early milled receiver model without under-folding ("pig sticker") bayonet - 7.62x39mm]] | [[Image:Type 56 export model.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Type 56 assault rifle aka M22, early milled receiver model without under-folding ("pig sticker") bayonet - 7.62x39mm]] | ||
[[Image:UncommonV204.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Jiang carries a Norinco Type 56 as his primary weapon.]] | [[Image:UncommonV204.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Jiang carries a Norinco Type 56 as his primary weapon.]] | ||
Revision as of 20:47, 20 July 2017
Uncommon Valor is a 1983 military action film directed by Ted Kotcheff (First Blood) and stars Gene Hackman as Jason Rhodes, a retired US Marine Colonel who leads a group of Vietnam veterans and a young former Marine (Patrick Swayze) back into the country on a mission to rescue American POW's left behind, one of whom may be his son.
The following weapons were used in the film Uncommon Valor:
Rifles/Carbines
Colt Sporter 1 Carbine (Mocked up as XM177E2)
Several members of the Long Range Reconnaissance Patrol (LRRP) are also seen armed with what appear to be CAR-15 rifles in the 1972 Vietnam prologue. The rifles also are used when the men train in Galveston for the mission. The majority of these rifles appear to be converted Colt Sporter I Carbines with 16" barrels to resemble the XM177 series of short rifles with an aftermarket flash hider. These conversions were in popular use in productions of the 1980s, including The Dogs of War.
MGC CAR-15
In the 1972 Vietnam prologue, LRRP (Long Range Reconnaissance Patrol) members are seen running back to the helicopters, some (including Frank Rhodes) were carrying the MGC CAR-15 replica rifle, but were never seen firing. The CAR-15s by MGC were always sold with the replica 30 round magazines. In order to make the weapons more period accurate, some of the CAR-15s in the film took 20 round magazines off of the MGC M16 replica rifles and used those. Others retained the stock 30 round magazine.
M16A1
Several LRRP members are seen running with M16A1s during the 1972 Vietnam prologue. Several M16s are among the weapons confiscated while in Thailand. Some M16A1's also are seen in the underground arms cache.
M16
During the opening Vietnam sequence, Blaster is seen firing an M16 rifle with slab side receiver.
Norinco Type 56
The Norinco Type 56 is a common assault rifle used in movies and television to stand-in for the AK-47. Seen carried by Laotian border patrol guards as well as Jiang (Kwai Hi Lim) and Lai Fun (Lau Nga Lai).
Norinco Type 56 Carbine
Laotian Border Patrol and Prison Camp guards are seen firing the Norinco Type 56 carbine, the Chinese version of the SKS. At one point, Wilkes (Fred Ward) also uses the rifle.
M14-E2
Scott (Patrick Swayze) uses an M14-E2 outfitted with a night vision scope as a sniper rifle during the training exercise.
M1 Garand
When their weapons are confiscated before the rescue mission, the men are forced to use older WWII-era weapons including the M1 Garand, which is primarily used by Col. Rhodes (Gene Hackman).
M1 Carbine
Jiang's associate in the bar is seen holding an M1 Carbine.
Mosin Nagant rifle
A Mosin Nagant rifle is one of the weapons glimpsed in the arms dealer's cache.
Lee-Enfield No.5 Jungle Carbine
A Lee-Enfield No.5 Jungle Carbine appears to be one of the vintage rifles purchased by the team.
Mauser 1935 Peruvian
A few 1935 Peruvian Mauser rifles are also seen in the weapons purchase.
Mauser Karabiner 98k
Karabiner 98k rifles are also found in the weapons purchase.
Machine Guns
M60 machine gun
An authentic M60 is carried by Sailor (Randall "Tex" Cobb) during the Vietnam sequence and during the training and preparation and actual rescue mission.
M60D
M60Ds are seen used by the Huey doorgunners during the Vietnam sequence. Twin M60D guns are also mounted on a gunship near the end of the film.
MG42 (fake)
When the team raids the prison camp, several guard towers as well as captured US helicopters appear to have MG42 machine guns positioned within. Upon closer inspection, several of these MG42s are in fact M60 machine guns fitted with a fake barrel shroud. In several images, there is no opening to remove the barrel on the right hand side. Also there is an ammo bag hanger on the left side and the nut on the bottom of the gas cylinder is showing below the shroud. The stock was left off on the helicopter just like the M60C and a fake rubber stock was add for the ground scene.
MG42
An authentic MG42 machine gun is seen on the wall of the arms cave. Sailor later uses an actual MG42 when he is bursting through the prisoner huts, but it is never fired (the only firing scenes of the MG42 utilize the mocked up M60).
Browning M2 Heavy Barrel
What appears to be a Browning M2HB is seen mounted on a Laotian patrol boat.
Browning Automatic Rifle
When their weapons are confiscated before the rescue mission, the men are forced to use older WWII-era weapons including the Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR), which is used primarily by Scott (Patrick Swayze).
Handguns
Smith & Wesson Model 10 Revolver
Thai Police are armed with Smith & Wesson Model 10 revolvers when they apprehend Rhodes and the men.
Smith & Wesson Model 686 Revolver
One of the Thai Cops carries a Smith & Wesson Model 686 Revolver in the raid. Since the revolver was introduced in 1980 and as the scene takes place in 1983 Bangkok, this is possible.
M1911A1
M1911A1 pistols are carried by several characters including Col. Rhodes (Gene Hackman), Wilkes (Fred Ward), and Blaster (Reb Brown).
Submachine Guns
M1928A1 Thompson
When their weapons are confiscated before the rescue mission, the men are forced to use older WWII-era weapons including the M1928A1 Thompson. Wilkes, Blaster and Charts (Tim Thomerson) are armed with Thompsons that lack the compensator. These weapons are M1928A1s because of the location of the actuators, although it appears the rear sights have been removed.
Uzi Submachine gun
A bodyguard of the 'new' arms dealer who confronts Johnson and Rhodes is seen holding a standard Uzi.
Shotguns
Remington 870 Slug Gun
When Rhodes visits Sailor in prison, a guard is seen with a Remington 870 shotgun. Later, an arms dealer's guard in Bangkok is seen holding an 870.
Launchers
M79 Grenade Launcher
An M79 Grenade Launcher is seen briefly carried by a LRRP member during the opening Vietnam sequence.
RPG-7
Several RPG warheads are seen in the arm dealer's cache of weapons. An RPG-7 launcher and several warheads are later seen carried by Jiang (Kwan Hi Lim). Also, an RPG-7 is briefly seen being loaded near the end of the film, but not fired.
M18 57mm Recoilless Rifle
An M18 Recoilless Rifle is used by Scott during the training exercise as well as Jiang and Johnson (Harold Sylvester). One used by Jiang and Johnson is covered with improvised camouflage.
Grenades/Mines
M67 Hand Grenade
One of Sailor's unusual traits is carrying a live hand grenade around his neck. He is seen carrying an M67 fragmentation hand grenade while training in Texas.
M26 hand grenade
M26 hand grenades are among the weapons seized by Thai police.
Mk II Hand Grenade
Several Mk II Hand Grenades are seen among other WWII weapons purchased by the team. One Mk II is seen worn around the neck of Sailor. Also all members of the team during the rescue mission wear them on their web gear.
M18 Smoke Grenade
M18 smoke grenades are seen amongst the ordnance on the table.
M18A1 Claymore
When the team checks out their weapons purchase, M18A1 Claymore mines are seen amongst the ordnance being organized on the table. These have the obvious blue painted stripe on them, indicating that they are inert trainers and not the real thing.
M15 Anti-Tank Mine
M15 anti-tank mines also are seen amongst the ordnance being organized on the table when the team checks their weapons purchase.
Weapons Cache
Rhodes and his team are seen going to an arms dealer's weapons cache, which houses several modern weapons, a trunk full of World War II-era weapons, and the following:
M2 Mortar
An M2 Mortar is also found in the cache.
Oerlikon 20mm AA Cannon
Among the weapons in the cache is an Oerlikon 20mm Cannon.
Modern Weapons
A cache of modern weapons including M16A1 rifles are briefly seen before Rhodes goes to the "bargain basement".
"Bargain Basement" Cache
The "Bargain Basement" lot of weapons Rhodes purchases for $4000 consists mostly of World War II vintage weapons including M1 Garands, M1928A1 Thompsons, and M1911A1 pistols.