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Many of the Delta Force operators are equipped with the [[Colt Model 727]] fitted with various accessories such as Aimpoint scopes and Surefire flashlights, with some of the carbines also having camouflage paint schemes. Delta Staff Sergeant Daniel Busch ([[Richard Tyson]]), Sergeant First Class "Hoot" Gibson ([[Eric Bana]]), Master Sergeant Tim "Grizz" Martin ([[Kim Coates]]), and SFC Sanderson ([[William Fichtner]]) all carry the Model 727. In actuality, the [[Colt Model 653]] and [[Colt Model 723]] would've been the carbines used by Delta during Operation Gothic Serpent. The [[Colt Model 727]] would've been more common amongst the Rangers and not Delta.
Many of the Delta Force operators are equipped with the [[Colt Model 727]] fitted with various accessories such as Aimpoint scopes and Surefire flashlights, with some of the carbines also having camouflage paint schemes. Delta Staff Sergeant Daniel Busch ([[Richard Tyson]]), Sergeant First Class "Hoot" Gibson ([[Eric Bana]]), Master Sergeant Chris Wex ([[Kim Coates]]), and SFC Sanderson ([[William Fichtner]]) all carry the Model 727. In actuality, the [[Colt Model 653]] and [[Colt Model 723]] would've been the carbines used by Delta during Operation Gothic Serpent. The [[Colt Model 727]] would've been more common amongst the Rangers and not Delta.
In the film, most of the Model 727 carbines are anachronistically equipped with Aimpoint M68 CCO reflex sights (which was not standardized until 17 March 1995). During Operation Gothic Serpent, some Delta operators and Rangers utilized the Aimpoint 5000 reflex sight.
In the film, most of the Model 727 carbines are anachronistically equipped with Aimpoint M68 CCO reflex sights (which was not standardized until 17 March 1995). During Operation Gothic Serpent, some Delta operators and Rangers utilized the Aimpoint 5000 reflex sight.
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[[Image:BHD-M733.jpg|thumb|none|601px|SSG Daniel Busch ([[Richard Tyson]]) with a [[Colt Model 727]] carbine equipped with a M68 reflex sight. A Surefire flashlight pressure switch is taped to the carbine's handguard.]]
[[Image:BHD-M733.jpg|thumb|none|601px|SSG Daniel Busch ([[Richard Tyson]]) with a [[Colt Model 727]] carbine equipped with a M68 reflex sight. A Surefire flashlight pressure switch is taped to the carbine's handguard.]]
[[Image:BHDM4-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|''"Hey, who's hungry?!"'' <BR> SFC "Hoot" Gibson ([[Eric Bana]]) with a camouflage painted Model 727 carbine equipped with a SureFire flashlight (with pressure switch taped to the carbine's handguard) during the "aerial target shooting" scene. ]]
[[Image:BHDM4-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|''"Hey, who's hungry?!"'' <BR> SFC "Hoot" Gibson ([[Eric Bana]]) with a camouflage painted Model 727 carbine equipped with a SureFire flashlight (with pressure switch taped to the carbine's handguard) during the "aerial target shooting" scene. ]]
[[Image:BHD003.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Grizz" Martin ([[Kim Coates]]) with a Model 727 from a deleted scene later included in the '''''Black Hawk Down Extended Cut'''''.]]
[[Image:BHD003.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Wex ([[Kim Coates]]) with a Model 727 from a deleted scene later included in the '''''Black Hawk Down Extended Cut'''''.]]
[[Image:BHD-M733-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|SFC Sanderson ([[William Fichtner]]) with a Model 727.]]
[[Image:BHD-M733-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|SFC Sanderson ([[William Fichtner]]) with a Model 727.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|SFC "Hoot" Gibson with the same camouflaged Model 727 carbine as above.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|SFC "Hoot" Gibson with the same camouflaged Model 727 carbine as above.]]
Black Hawk Down is the 2001 feature film adaptation of the non-fiction Mark Bowden book that recounted the events surrounding the ill-fated US mission to capture a Somali warlord in 1993. Directed by Ridley Scott, the film was notable for its depiction of modern US warfare. The film received support from US Department of Defense, who provided extensive training for the actors with members of the US Army Rangers and other Special Forces soldiers to ensure authenticity in addition to allowing access to actual Black Hawk and "Little Bird" helicopters for filming. During the film's production, many of the soldiers and pilots seen were active duty, some of whom were veterans of the actual battle. The film's cast included Josh Hartnett, Eric Bana, William Fichtner, and Ewan McGregor.
The following weapons were used in the film Black Hawk Down:
Many of the Delta Force operators are equipped with the Colt Model 727 fitted with various accessories such as Aimpoint scopes and Surefire flashlights, with some of the carbines also having camouflage paint schemes. Delta Staff Sergeant Daniel Busch (Richard Tyson), Sergeant First Class "Hoot" Gibson (Eric Bana), Master Sergeant Chris Wex (Kim Coates), and SFC Sanderson (William Fichtner) all carry the Model 727. In actuality, the Colt Model 653 and Colt Model 723 would've been the carbines used by Delta during Operation Gothic Serpent. The Colt Model 727 would've been more common amongst the Rangers and not Delta.
In the film, most of the Model 727 carbines are anachronistically equipped with Aimpoint M68 CCO reflex sights (which was not standardized until 17 March 1995). During Operation Gothic Serpent, some Delta operators and Rangers utilized the Aimpoint 5000 reflex sight.
Various Delta Force operators and Army Rangers are equipped with the short-barreled Colt Model 733. Some are standard 733's, while others are customized with camo paint schemes and Aimpoint scopes (similar to the aforementioned Model 727s). Some of the weapons have a XM177-style flash moderator instead of the standard barrel with A2 flash-hider. One particular Model 733 used by Delta MSG Gary Gordon (Nikolaj Coster-Waldau) and later Chief Warrant Officer 3 Mike Durant (Ron Eldard) is heavily modified with a camouflage paint scheme, M68 Aimpoint red dot scope, weaponlight, and a sound suppressor.
For several of the sequences that involved stuntwork, a number of non-firing rubber prop M4 Carbines are seen in the hands of the operators.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingColt M4 Carbine - 5.56x45mm NATOError creating thumbnail: File missingCaptain Mike Steele (Jason Isaacs) points out the fact that the selector switch on the carbine carried by SFC "Hoot" Gibson (Eric Bana) isn't set to "SAFE" when on base, who then replies, "This is my safety", and bends his trigger finger. The selector switch appears to be molded into the receiver, making it likely this is actually a rubber stunt prop. (The book states Hoot had just cleared the chamber and pulled the trigger before inserting the magazine, making it unable to engage the safety due to the hammer being down.)Error creating thumbnail: File missingA Delta operator with a rubber stunt M4 Carbine.
Special
Error creating thumbnail: File missingA trio of actors portraying Delta operators the set of Black Hawk Down. The operator on the right has one of the rubber stunt M4 Carbines. The one in the middle holds a camouflage Model 733 with XM177-style moderator. While not obvious, the operator on the left has a Model 733 (the 11.5-inch barrel is visible in other images taken during the same series of photographs).
M16A2
Most of the Rangers, including SSG Matt Eversmann (Josh Hartnett) are armed with M16A2 Rifles. While defending the second Black Hawk crash site, SFC Randy Shughart (Johnny Strong) can be seen briefly using an M16A2, alongside his M14. Also, when CPT Steele tells SSG Eversmann that they have to secure the perimeter for the SAR chopper the Ranger lying prone in the background appears to be working the forward assist on his M16A2.
It should be noted that Rangers weren't just issued the M16A2 during Operation Gothic Serpent - The Colt Model 727 also would've been used by them. Despite the movie's portrayal of Delta Force using the M727, it is inaccurate as in reality they used Colt Model 653 and Colt Model 723 carbines; the Rangers would've used the M727 in selected roles such as NCOs, COs, or in the case of the film, radiomen and possibly medics.
The M14 Rifle is seen being used by Delta Force Sergeant First Class Randy Shughart (Johnny Strong), most notably when he and MSG Gary Gordon (Nikolaj Coster-Waldau) are covering the second crash site. His M14 sports a camouflage paint scheme and an Aimpoint CompM2/M68 reflex sight.
Several M16A1 rifles are seen in the Somali arms dealer's shop and one militia member is seen loading up one. At one point, Rangers can be seen watching a portion of the film The Jerk where a madman is trying to shoot the protagonist using a scoped M16A1.
The local militia arm themselves with, among many other weapons, Heckler & Koch G3 rifles. Both older variants and newer G3A3 variants are seen in the film. The older variants were previously ID'd as CETME Rifles, which is incorrect - The furniture, magazines, trigger housings and receivers are incorrect for CETMEs. The fixed rear sights, while generally associated with CETMEs, were also used on older-spec G3 rifles; The distinctive (and more commonly seen) H&K adjustable spindle/drum rear sight was only first introduced with the G3A3.
The vast majority of the Somali gunmen are armed with the Norinco Type 56-1 assault rifle, which is a Chinese derivative of the AKS-47/AKMS. They are identified by the hooded front sights, which only Chinese Kalashnikov rifles have. At one point in the film, one of the soldiers can be seen removing the magazine from a discarded Type 56-1 and stuffing it in an empty pouch. Whether this was done to take back a souvenir or for some other reason is not known.
Mo'alim (Razaaq Adoti), the Somali militia leader, carries an AKS-74U as his weapon of choice, first seen picking it up and inspecting it before heading into battle, then firing a burst into the air to break up the mob attacking CWO3 Mike Durant before announcing that he was to be taken alive as a prisoner.
Ranger Specialist Shawn Nelson (Ewen Bremner) can be seen carrying an M60 machine gun as his standard weapon. A mounted M60 is also seen and fired from at least one of the Humvees in the extraction convoy. Some of the Somalis can be seen using them as well.
Several Rangers can be seen carrying FN Minimis throughout the film, standing in for the M249-E1 SAW. It is also the weapon used by Specialist Lance Twombly (Tom Hardy) to accidentally deafen Nelson when he fires it too close to his head. The Minimis are also fitted with circular 200-round cloth ammo bags instead of hard plastic drums. At one point a Somali shoots at Twombly and hits one of his ammo drums causing the ammo to cook off and burn him, though he's able to get rid of it before he's seriously harmed.
The Browning M2HB heavy machine gun is fielded by the US Army on their HMMWVs, the U.N. forces on their APCs, and the Somali militia on their technicals in the film. The opening shots of the film feature Somali militiamen slaughtering a gathered crowd at a food distribution center with the powerful .50 cal.
The MH-60 Black Hawks in the film are armed with GE M134D Miniguns mounted as doorguns. Pylon-mounted miniguns, mounted alongside 2.75" rockets, are seen as the armament of the AH-6 Little Birds. The Black Hawk and Little Bird helicopters were provided for the film by the US Army's 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment, and the weapons mounted are the actual armaments. One of the pilots seen in the film (Keith Jones) was a veteran of the actual battle.
One of the Somalis fires on Mike Durant's Black Hawk armed with an Zastava M72, a copy of the RPK light machine gun, identifiable by the stock and handguard design. Another Somali is seen providing suppressing fire on the Rangers and Delta operatives with one when the Delta operators and Rangers try to reach the first Black Hawk crash site.
Chief Warrant Officer 3 Michael Durant (Ron Eldard), the MH-60 Black Hawk pilot of Super Six-Four, is armed with a Heckler & Koch MP5A3 with a slim handgrip and uses it to defend himself after he's shot down. The MP5 was briefly issued to helicopter crews as a personal defense weapon (PDW), but was discontinued in this role when it was determined its 9x19mm ammo lacked sufficient stopping power against armor-wearing or drug-crazed enemies, as was the case in Somalia. The guns is also briefly used by SFC Randy Shughart before being killed by the overwhelming militia. In the book and real life, the weapons were actually MP5Ks. They were referred to as "Skinny Popper", a reference to the men's nickname for the Somalis.
While never used on screen, SFC Sanderson (William Fichtner) can be seen with a customized Remington 870 Express Magnum (standing in for an 870 Police Magnum) slung over his right shoulder. A pistol grip (minus the folding stock) is used in place of the full stock. This same setup is used on a short 870 by Charlie Sheen in the movie Navy SEALs. In a deleted scene, SFC Sanderson uses the shotgun to blow the hinges on a door inside the target building. The tail end of this shot is still in the finished movie, although if you haven't seen the deleted scene before it would be hard to spot. In the book, at least one of the Delta operators has an 870 Masterkey attached to his CAR-15.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingRemington 870 Police Magnum with folding stock - 12 Gauge (The one seen in the film lacked the folding stock)Error creating thumbnail: File missingSanderson with his Remington 870 Express Magnum slung over his back. Note the full length barrel.Error creating thumbnail: File missingA close up of Sanderson's 870. Also a good shot of an M733 barrel.Error creating thumbnail: File missingReceiver reads "Express Magnum" on Sanderson's 870. In real life it would have been a sturdier Police Magnum, not the cheaper, "economy priced" Express Magnum, though both are visually identical. The Police Magnum is the same shotgun, but built from stronger materials and has slightly different finish.
Handguns
M1911A1
The M1911A1 pistol is seen used by the Delta operators as their sidearm of choice. The weapon is most notably seen in the hands of Gordon and Shughart as the two Delta snipers attempt to secure the second crash site and are forced to draw their M1911A1 pistols as the overwhelming Somali forces close in on them. Delta Force MSG Wex (Kim Coates) can be seen at the firing range with an M1911A1 near the beginning of the film.
A Somali militiaman uses a Tokarev TT-33 to kill SFC Shughart (Johnny Strong) at the second crash site. It should be noted that the militiaman fires 11 shots, which is 3 more than the TT-33's 8-round magazine.
The Beretta 92FS pistol (standing in for the Beretta M9) is seen a few times in the film in the hands of Rangers, and members of Lieutenant Colonel McKnight's convoy. Mainly it is seen in the hands of Maddox in the Humvee. McKnight himself carries his 92FS sidearm around as a proper means to defend himself.
The Russian-manufactured RPG-7 launcher features prominently in the film as the weapon which brings down a pair of MH-60 Black Hawk helicopters. In one scene inspired by an actual event, a projectile from an RPG-7 strikes PVT Kowalewski (Brendan Sexton III), the driver of one of the M35 'deuce and a half' trucks in the convoy commanded by Lieutenant Colonel Danny McKnight (Tom Sizemore). The warhead fails to detonate, impaling the luckless soldier instead. At least one of the RPG-7s used in the film was a rare live and registered example owned by Movie Gun Services.
Along with the RPG-7s mentioned above, Chinese Norinco Type 69 RPG launchers are also used by the militia. The Type 69's also seem to be loaded with PG-7VL rockets instead of the more commonly-seen PG-7VM rockets, distinguished by the larger warhead.
An Army Ranger, Lieutenant Tom DiTomasso, can be seen taking out a "technical" with an M72A3 LAW. The M72A3 was a post-Vietnam improved model of the M72 Rocket, and the last variation used by the U.S. Army. Upgrade versions (up to M72A7) of the LAW are being fielded by the U.S. Navy and USMC as recently as 2007, as well a variant is used by the Canadian Forces and other NATO nations in Afghanistan.
At one point in the film, Aidid's militia begin to bombard the building the majority of the Rangers and Deltas have taken cover in with mortars and an SPG-9 recoilless rifle. A group of Deltas led by Hoot soon kill the gunners and then turn the weapon against the militia, killing several with one shot. It's later destroyed by Hoot's team before they join Eversmann's team. Interestingly, according to the audio commentary on the DVD, this incident never happened and was made up for dramatic effect by the writers.
While the Cobray CM203 37mm Flare Launchers are fitted on most of the Ranger's M16A2 Rifles, a couple of actual M203 grenade launchers attached to M16A2s are seen, the most notable of which is Specialist John Grimes (Ewan McGregor) who assists Delta in taking out a "technical" that has them pinned down, missing the first shot before destroying the vehicle with a second High-Explosive Dual-Purpose (HEDP) grenade from his M203.
While loading up for the assault, Hoot (Eric Bana) is seen taping up the pins and spoons on some M67 fragmentation hand grenades. SFC Sanderson is later seen throwing one into a window to take out a Somali who has him and the Deltas and Rangers pinned down.
There are several appearances in the film of AN/M14 incendiary grenades; used by Deltas to destroy sensitive equipment at both Black Hawk crash sites, as well as to destroy the SPG-9 recoilless rifle mentioned above once Hoot and his team are done with it. Another one can be seen sitting on a table when Hoot is loading up.
