Never Say Die: Difference between revisions
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Never Say Die: Difference between revisions
[[File:Never Say Die-M16-37.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A police officer hold the CM203-fitted M16 that appears to be the same prop, earlier used by Roper.]]
[[File:Never Say Die-M16-37.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A police officer hold the CM203-fitted M16 that appears to be the same prop, earlier used by Roper.]]
== AR-15 Carbine ==
== Colt AR-15 Sporter Carbine (Customized) ==
In the second half of the movie Mike Roper ([[Todd Jensen]]) is armed with an AR-15 carbine of unknown version. Same looking gun is seen in hands of a commando during the attack on "Garden of Eden".
In the second half of the movie Mike Roper ([[Todd Jensen]]) is armed with an AR-15 carbine. Same looking gun is seen in hands of a commando during the attack on "Garden of Eden". It appears to be [[Colt AR-15 Sporter Carbine]] with custom barrel, shortened from standard 16" to about 10.5-11".
[[Image:Colt-Sporter-I-Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Sporter I Carbine - 5.56x45mm. Colt's public offering of a lightweight carbine based on the AR-15 Platform. This rifle has been erroneously called "the M16 Shorty" for years by Law Enforcement and Firearms "authors". The "M16 Shorty" or "Shorty Carbine" have never been authorized or used names for the rifle by Colt or the Government.]]
[[File:Never Say Die-M16-11.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A commando fires M16 carbine.]]
[[File:Never Say Die-M16-11.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A commando fires M16 carbine.]]
[[File:Never Say Die-M16-18.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Roper aims his carbine at Blake.]]
[[File:Never Say Die-M16-18.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Roper aims his carbine at Blake.]]
Never Say Die is a 1994 action movie directed by Yossi Wein. Franklin James (Billy Drago), a former Sgt. of a special unit, turns a self-proclaimed prophet and gathers "Garden of Eden" cult. FBI Agent Mike Roper (Todd Jensen) investigates his suspicious activities but when the Congressman Le Roux disappears during the visit in James' estate, Roper has to act immediately. The direct action of FBI agents faces armed response. Now the only man who can deal with insane Reverend is his former comrade-in-arms Blake (Frank Zagarino) whom James considers dead.
Note: the movie was filmed in South Africa that affects the choice of screen guns.
The following weapons were used in the film Never Say Die:
Angel (Robin Smith), Reverend James' enforcer, uses a Llama Comanche revolver during the massacre of Congressman Le Roux and his accompanying. This is possibly the same gun that was hold by James Booth in American Ninja 4 as the revolvers have absolutely identical outlook, and both movies share the same armourer Stuart Wentzel.
FBI Agent Mike Roper (Todd Jensen) uses a snub nose revolver as his backup weapon, carried in leg holster. In the final scene same looking revolver is seen in hands of Reverend James (Billy Drago). It's hard to say even if this revolver is five- or six-shot that complicates the identification.
Beretta 92FS pistols are also used by some of abovementioned characters (as the movie was filmed in South Africa, the pistols could be local produced Vektor Z88 version).
During most of the movie Reverend James (Billy Drago) carries a Walther MPK. Possibly the same MPK, only with removed folding stock, is briefly seen in hands of an FBI commando.
During the shootout in "Garden of Eden" an FBI commando is armed with a pump action shotgun. It is fitted with folding stock of Vektor assault rifle. It bears resemblance with Remington 870 but still differs in the shape of the pump and other details.
During the attack on "Garden of Eden" Mike Roper (Todd Jensen) is armed with some version of M16, fitted with Cobray CM203 grenade launcher. This gun has slickside upper receiver and full fence lower receiver. In a continuty error it switches to another version of M16 with grenade launcher (see below) and then back again.
In a continuty error Roper's M16A1 switches to a different version of M16 that has A1 upper receiver and slabside lower receiver. A CM203 launcher is also mounted on this rifle but the exact item is different. The same UBGL-fitted gun is later used by a police officer. M16s of same version are used by FBI agents in several scenes.
In the second half of the movie Mike Roper (Todd Jensen) is armed with an AR-15 carbine. Same looking gun is seen in hands of a commando during the attack on "Garden of Eden". It appears to be Colt AR-15 Sporter Carbine with custom barrel, shortened from standard 16" to about 10.5-11".
Vektor R5 assault rifles, visually modified to look like AKS-47, are used by James' henchmen, including Amos (John Simon Jones) and Jacob (Phillip Ferreria). Such mockups are often seen in South African films.
Angel's (Robin Smith) main weapon is a different version of mocked up R5, fitted with Cobray CM203 underbarrel launcher. Angel's rifle is briefly used by Amos while Angel drives a boat during the chase on the lake.
Some genuine AKS-47s are also seen in several scenes. In flashback James (at that time Sgt. Franklin James) (Billy Drago) and Blake (at that time Corp. Blake) (Frank Zagarino) both use AKS-47s. An AKS is seen in hands of a cult member during the shootout in "Garden of Eden".
One of the FBI commandos is armed with an unidentified assault rifle. It is a relatively compact weapon with handguard and forend of the stock in IMI Romat style but with a short barrel, lacking any flash hider, and with a long stick magazine that looks too slender for 7.62x51.
During the attack on "Garden of Eden" one of FBI commandos is armed with an RPD light machine gun. When the machine gun is seen the first time, it is fitted with heat shield but when it is used in action, the heat shield disappears.
Cobray CM203 launchers are used by Mike Roper (Todd Jensen) and Angel (Robin Smith). The first has the launcher mounted on M16 while the latter has it mounted on visually modified Vektor R5.
Mk 2 hand grenades are seen in several scenes. In the flashback scene several members of Jones' unit carry Mk 2s. Mike Roper (Todd Jensen) and his subordinate use Mk 2s during the hunt for Blake in the swamp. In the final scene Reverend James (Billy Drago) uses a pair of Mk 2s.
During the boat chase Reverend James (Billy Drago) uses several M26 hand grenades against pursuing Blake's boat. This is possibly the South African M963 version.
During the attack on "Garden of Eden" one of FBI commandos uses a 6-Kh-4 bayonet (known outside USSR as AKM Type II bayonet) as wire-cutter. The black furniture of the bayonet is typical for East German version. In the climactic scene on the abandoned factory Angel (Robin Smith) uses a 6-Kh-4 bayonet for close combat with Blake.
