Talk:Mauser Rifle Series: Difference between revisions
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Talk:Mauser Rifle Series: Difference between revisions
The [http://www.nramuseum.org/the-museum/the-galleries/ever-vigilant/case-68-presidential-pieces-royal-guns-of-royal-houses/spandau-m1888-sporter-rifle-attributed-to-kaiser-wilhelm.aspx National Firearms Museum] lists it as a custom Gew.88 sporting rifle made for Kaiser Wilhelm II. However, it is obviously not a Gew.88 action, but appears to be a one-off design heavily influenced by Mauser, based on the Mauser-style box magazine and provision for loading via stripper clips. The bolt also appears to be a combination of Mannlicher and Mauser features, with 2 forward lugs, a possibly separate Mannlicher-type bolt face, Mauser-style cocking-piece and combination dust-cover/bolt shroud and safety. It is marked "Gewehrfabrik Spandau 1898".--[[User:Stomper|Stomper]] ([[User talk:Stomper|talk]]) 17:15, 20 August 2013 (EDT)
The [http://www.nramuseum.org/the-museum/the-galleries/ever-vigilant/case-68-presidential-pieces-royal-guns-of-royal-houses/spandau-m1888-sporter-rifle-attributed-to-kaiser-wilhelm.aspx National Firearms Museum] lists it as a custom Gew.88 sporting rifle made for Kaiser Wilhelm II. However, it is obviously not a Gew.88 action, but appears to be a one-off design heavily influenced by Mauser, based on the Mauser-style box magazine and provision for loading via stripper clips. The bolt also appears to be a combination of Mannlicher and Mauser features, with 2 forward lugs, a possibly separate Mannlicher-type bolt face, Mauser-style cocking-piece and combination dust-cover/bolt shroud and safety. It is marked "Gewehrfabrik Spandau 1898".--[[User:Stomper|Stomper]] ([[User talk:Stomper|talk]]) 17:15, 20 August 2013 (EDT)
Update: This rifle was designed by August Louis Schlegelmilch; the head of the Imperial German arsenal at Spandau. He was the man chiefly responsible for the Gewehr 1888 bolt design.--[[User:Stomper|Stomper]] ([[User talk:Stomper|talk]]) 21:44, 2 January 2017 (EST)
Unless it appears in something, don't post it unless it fills an obvious gap in the model lines or the photo is a movie gun or your own photograph. Thanks. MoviePropMaster2008 (talk) 21:49, 24 March 2013 (EDT)
1903 Army Model C
From 1903 until 1930, this very simple hunting rifle was bought into military circles as the cheapest model. Most C-Models have military actions and chambers; there are also individual editions with civilian actions.
The Gewhr 88 pictured here isn't actually a typical Gewehr 88 with the straight stock and barrel jacket, it's a Turkish M88/05/35, which is fitted with a Mauser-style stock, handguard and barrel as part of their 1930s upgrade programme to convery the many weapons in their inventory to 8mm and fit them for the stock / bayonet of the Mauser 1903. I actually used to own one myself - surprisingly accurate rifle. Ended up trading it for an original WW1 configuration Turkish Geweht 88/05. - Nyles
I have 6 types of Gew 88, and photos of each. If I knew how to upload, I would. I will be happy to furnish imagesMichaelZWilliamson (talk) 19:45, 9 December 2012 (EST)
Zhongzheng image
A question for the Mauser experts out there, is the current image for the Type Zhongzheng wrong?
I thought one of the distinguishing features of the Zhongzheng was the fact that it had a straight bolt handle not a down-turned one like this. To me this looks like a Zhongzheng with a Kar98K bolt. Is this a mix and match or a variant? i ask because on the Woman Knight of Mirror Lake, The (Jian hu nu xia Qiu Jin) page you can see a mix of Zhongzhengs with both straight and down-turned bolt handles. --commando552 (talk) 19:38, 18 April 2013 (EDT)
According to Wikipedia, Type 1 had a straight bolt handle, and Type 2 was a bit shorter, with a bent bolt handle. --Funkychinaman (talk) 20:18, 18 April 2013 (EDT)
I can't tell if it's longer or not. --Funkychinaman (talk) 20:39, 18 April 2013 (EDT)
The link in the citation had this image. The two rifles above look to be the same length. I assume the bolts would be interchangeable. --Funkychinaman (talk) 20:41, 18 April 2013 (EDT)
I don't believe that source is right, the "classic" Zhongzheng is the one I posted above and that is the one that appears most commonly in films, yet it is neither of the ones pictured there. These look like a Kar98k and a post WWI Gewehr 98. I'm an expert in neither Mauser rifles nor Chinese though, so my interpretation could be way off. I can't actually find any source other than Wikipedia itself that talks about a Type 1/2 difference so I'm beginning to think it doesn't exist, and that the top rifle is just fitted with a turned down bolt (which I'm assuming would be more common these days, and being a screen used movie gun I can imagine it has been repaired over the years). --commando552 (talk) 21:00, 18 April 2013 (EDT)
The surplus rifle forum linked to this. No pictures though. --Funkychinaman (talk) 21:18, 18 April 2013 (EDT)
File name is "Mauser1888sporter" This is Gew 88 ??- KINKI'boy (talk) 19:29, 21 July 2013 (JST)
The National Firearms Museum lists it as a custom Gew.88 sporting rifle made for Kaiser Wilhelm II. However, it is obviously not a Gew.88 action, but appears to be a one-off design heavily influenced by Mauser, based on the Mauser-style box magazine and provision for loading via stripper clips. The bolt also appears to be a combination of Mannlicher and Mauser features, with 2 forward lugs, a possibly separate Mannlicher-type bolt face, Mauser-style cocking-piece and combination dust-cover/bolt shroud and safety. It is marked "Gewehrfabrik Spandau 1898".--Stomper (talk) 17:15, 20 August 2013 (EDT)
Update: This rifle was designed by August Louis Schlegelmilch; the head of the Imperial German arsenal at Spandau. He was the man chiefly responsible for the Gewehr 1888 bolt design.--Stomper (talk) 21:44, 2 January 2017 (EST)
