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::SO far it looks like they are going more for the aesthetic of the 1995 movie, where there were no Seburo guns. Closest thing in that is the CZN-M22, which has a much more realistic look than Seburo guns tend to have. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 03:59, 17 November 2016 (EST) | ::SO far it looks like they are going more for the aesthetic of the 1995 movie, where there were no Seburo guns. Closest thing in that is the CZN-M22, which has a much more realistic look than Seburo guns tend to have. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 03:59, 17 November 2016 (EST) | ||
::The problem is that they are taking elements from Stand Alone Complex like the teahouse scene from season 1 and Kuze from season 2 and the behind the scenes state they aren't using the 1995 movie story here but adapting a modified story from Kuze's Individual Eleven story arc...sorta. They could have modded F2000s and those would look more like Seburo C26A or kept the general frame of the X95 and jut put a carrying handle on top of it and it'd look more like the CZN-M22 since that was a very basic looking gun instead of this blocky thing we see in the new movie. A lot of the guns used in the 1995 movie and tv shows were almost unaltered real guns for the most part, even the fictional guns look like they can be real world guns with very simple practical designs and some flair. This movie tried to make the guns too stylized which wasn't what Ghost in the Shell is about when it came to weapons. I really didn't like the "Skinny Man's" Uzi in this movie since in the original 1995 movie, it was drawn as an unmodified Uzi. The attention to weapon details on any of the anime series were really good, even brass checking weapons. This adaptation doesn't seem to understand that concept like the opening scene that takes from the 1995 movie but under the original, the Major was brass checking her weapon. This one The Major was chambering her weapon and its implied she's left handed at some point. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 11:33, 17 November 2016 (EST) |
Revision as of 16:33, 17 November 2016
Name
I think for this movie, we should just call the Major just "The Major" since behind the scene and on IMDB, they've eliminated the Japanese name of the character. Excalibur01 (talk) 17:45, 15 November 2016 (EST)
- Mamoru Oshii does refer to her as "Motoko" in this video, but earlier they use a nameplate that just says "The Major", so I dunno. I just did what we usually do with superhero names.--Quarax (talk) 23:20, 15 November 2016 (EST)
That pistol that johansson racks in the trailer, is it some kinda glock mockup?--AnActualAK47 (talk) 13:52, 15 November 2016 (EST)
- Yep. There's a few more fictional guns based on real firearms too.--Quarax (talk) 15:43, 15 November 2016 (EST)
Please help ID
Please help ID these weapons. --Ben41 (talk) 16:56, 15 November 2016 (EST)
- Looks like a Glock 17 --Swordfish941 (talk) 17:34, 15 November 2016 (EST)
- This one's hard to ID. Maybe they're TDI Vectors, but the barrels look a little high (that could just be the angle, though).--Quarax (talk) 23:22, 15 November 2016 (EST)
- Batou's shotgun is a Crye Precision Six12, and the gun in the orange shell in the last cap is another Mini Uzi. I only know this as there are some photos of various props floating around from the press event in Tokyo:
It also looks like the pistol used by the guy in the mask is the "Hanka Pistol" listed above. I don't think this is a real gun though, if nothing else the way the stock is attached (which his a real stock for a Glock made by FAB Defence) means it couldn't accept a magazine. Or maybe it is soemthing real like a GLock that is totally hidden inside a shell. --commando552 (talk) 17:21, 15 November 2016 (EST)
Weapon Designs
Is anyone else sort of disappointed with the weapons shown so far? I know this is just a trailer, but the utter lack of anything resembling a Seburo firearm (like the M5) is just offputting for a GiTS movie. The weapon mockups we've seen so far just seem sort of lazy, like the extra blocky Tavor and the see through Glock. I do like the inclusion of the Crye Six12 though, I've always thought that was a pretty cyberpunk looking gun. --Aidoru (talk) 01:11, 17 November 2016 (EST)
- IMO, unless the armorers/weapon manufacturers can get to make a working one done, that's kinda moot. Ominae (talk) 01:59, 17 November 2016 (EST)
- SO far it looks like they are going more for the aesthetic of the 1995 movie, where there were no Seburo guns. Closest thing in that is the CZN-M22, which has a much more realistic look than Seburo guns tend to have. --commando552 (talk) 03:59, 17 November 2016 (EST)
- The problem is that they are taking elements from Stand Alone Complex like the teahouse scene from season 1 and Kuze from season 2 and the behind the scenes state they aren't using the 1995 movie story here but adapting a modified story from Kuze's Individual Eleven story arc...sorta. They could have modded F2000s and those would look more like Seburo C26A or kept the general frame of the X95 and jut put a carrying handle on top of it and it'd look more like the CZN-M22 since that was a very basic looking gun instead of this blocky thing we see in the new movie. A lot of the guns used in the 1995 movie and tv shows were almost unaltered real guns for the most part, even the fictional guns look like they can be real world guns with very simple practical designs and some flair. This movie tried to make the guns too stylized which wasn't what Ghost in the Shell is about when it came to weapons. I really didn't like the "Skinny Man's" Uzi in this movie since in the original 1995 movie, it was drawn as an unmodified Uzi. The attention to weapon details on any of the anime series were really good, even brass checking weapons. This adaptation doesn't seem to understand that concept like the opening scene that takes from the 1995 movie but under the original, the Major was brass checking her weapon. This one The Major was chambering her weapon and its implied she's left handed at some point. Excalibur01 (talk) 11:33, 17 November 2016 (EST)