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: I'd imagine carbines are more akin to SMGs, not only the barrel lenght but things like the caliber, muzzle velocity, etc.. In any case my 40 years old father, who's got experience with CETME assault rifles says AR's are for CQB engagements (not saying they cant be used for longer ranges however).--[[User:Death Shadow20|Death Shadow20]] ([[User talk:Death Shadow20|talk]]) 16:29, 25 July 2016 (EDT) | : I'd imagine carbines are more akin to SMGs, not only the barrel lenght but things like the caliber, muzzle velocity, etc.. In any case my 40 years old father, who's got experience with CETME assault rifles says AR's are for CQB engagements (not saying they cant be used for longer ranges however).--[[User:Death Shadow20|Death Shadow20]] ([[User talk:Death Shadow20|talk]]) 16:29, 25 July 2016 (EDT) | ||
:: The traditional definition pertains to barrel length - A carbine is a shorter barreled version of a full length similar-caliber rifle, going from earlier weapons - 'Old West' pieces and so forth, to early 20th century 'Battle Rifles'. Granted assault rifles have usurped that somewhat as many are as short as that (or even shorter still), the term can still be used much in the same context today, and even is - M4 Carbine:M16 Rifle, and so forth. I myself sometimes refer to some shorter versions of assault rifles as 'assault carbines', again in the case of the M4 and other Colts, Galil SAR, etc. Again, caliber factors not so much into it. In the case of pistol-caliber SMG-carbines, it's more the opposite; their carbines are generally ''longer'' than the equivalent standard weapons, USC vs UMP, HK94 vs MP5, etc. But that doesn't apply to this here. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 16:35, 25 July 2016 (EDT) | :: The traditional definition pertains to barrel length - A carbine is a shorter barreled version of a full length similar-caliber rifle, going from earlier weapons - 'Old West' pieces and so forth, to early 20th century 'Battle Rifles'. Granted assault rifles have usurped that somewhat as many are as short as that (or even shorter still), the term can still be used much in the same context today, and even is - M4 Carbine:M16 Rifle, and so forth. I myself sometimes refer to some shorter versions of assault rifles as 'assault carbines', again in the case of the M4 and other Colts, Galil SAR, etc. Again, caliber factors not so much into it. In the case of pistol-caliber SMG-carbines, it's more the opposite; their carbines are generally ''longer'' than the equivalent standard weapons, USC vs UMP, HK94 vs MP5, etc. But that doesn't apply to this here. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 16:35, 25 July 2016 (EDT) | ||
:::Well I'd say it's an assault rifle rather than a carbine, since there's not | :::Well I'd say it's an assault rifle rather than a carbine, since there's not an original longer rifle version before it. Much like the 16.3" barreled AK-74 is an assault rifle and the 8.3" AKS-74U is the carbine of the AK-74. So the 14.5" version of the ACR is the standard assault rifle and the 10.5" version is the carbine. [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] ([[User talk:Mr. Wolf|talk]]) 18:10, 25 July 2016 (EDT) | ||
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ACR fragility
News about this gun folks. The ACR has been reported to have several problems with the gas system. The piston seems to be very prone to breakdowns. The quality is also really lousy and the plastic cracks easily. It looks like Remington's quality control no longer exists. Hughjefender
- Source? Acora 14:08, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
- Sounds more like a design flaw than bad QC.--FIVETWOSEVEN 20:58, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
That, and the fact that it's being recalled for randomly emptying the mag, leads me to believe that this is only the first of many problems. -SasquatchJim
Yeah, I'll try to ask my friend about the source of his info. He gets a lot of info from Highroad, Calguns, Arf-Com, and even K. I get skeptical about his stuff sometimes. Hughjefender.
Title
Shouldn't this page be called Magpul Masada since that is the base gun? Like with the lost of variants on the M1911 page. Now this is like calling M249 the FN Minimi page... - bozitojugg3rn4ut 04:55, 9 August 2011 (CDT)
- other way round, Minimi was the base LMG, but anyway, most of the time its the name that is most commonly used/known by thats given to a page, in this case its kinda iffy seeing theres been 3 producers scarecrow 09:17, 15 January 2012 (CST)
Splitting sections
Shouldn't we be putting the confirmed Remington ACRs in their own section? The Wierd It 14:45, 15 January 2012 (CST)
- YES!
- Always wanted to know what are the differences between the two because it seems like the same weapons with different company name... --RaNgeR 06:23, 26 June 2012 (CDT)
Really the only difference between the two is that Bushmaster is the civilian version - semi and safe only. Remington is the mil version with select fire. Unless you happen to catch a very high quality screencap that you can definitely ID the rifle with, you aren't going to tell the two apart. --DeltaOne 13:54, 26 June 2012 (CDT)
- Ah, okay, thanks. --RaNgeR 14:12, 26 June 2012 (CDT)
Carbine
In what context is the weapon considered as a carbine rather than a standard assault rifle? Does it depend on the barrel length, or variant (Bushmaster/Remington), or is it always a carbine? --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 14:58, 25 July 2016 (EDT)
- I'd imagine carbines are more akin to SMGs, not only the barrel lenght but things like the caliber, muzzle velocity, etc.. In any case my 40 years old father, who's got experience with CETME assault rifles says AR's are for CQB engagements (not saying they cant be used for longer ranges however).--Death Shadow20 (talk) 16:29, 25 July 2016 (EDT)
- The traditional definition pertains to barrel length - A carbine is a shorter barreled version of a full length similar-caliber rifle, going from earlier weapons - 'Old West' pieces and so forth, to early 20th century 'Battle Rifles'. Granted assault rifles have usurped that somewhat as many are as short as that (or even shorter still), the term can still be used much in the same context today, and even is - M4 Carbine:M16 Rifle, and so forth. I myself sometimes refer to some shorter versions of assault rifles as 'assault carbines', again in the case of the M4 and other Colts, Galil SAR, etc. Again, caliber factors not so much into it. In the case of pistol-caliber SMG-carbines, it's more the opposite; their carbines are generally longer than the equivalent standard weapons, USC vs UMP, HK94 vs MP5, etc. But that doesn't apply to this here. StanTheMan (talk) 16:35, 25 July 2016 (EDT)
- Well I'd say it's an assault rifle rather than a carbine, since there's not an original longer rifle version before it. Much like the 16.3" barreled AK-74 is an assault rifle and the 8.3" AKS-74U is the carbine of the AK-74. So the 14.5" version of the ACR is the standard assault rifle and the 10.5" version is the carbine. Mr. Wolf (talk) 18:10, 25 July 2016 (EDT)
- The traditional definition pertains to barrel length - A carbine is a shorter barreled version of a full length similar-caliber rifle, going from earlier weapons - 'Old West' pieces and so forth, to early 20th century 'Battle Rifles'. Granted assault rifles have usurped that somewhat as many are as short as that (or even shorter still), the term can still be used much in the same context today, and even is - M4 Carbine:M16 Rifle, and so forth. I myself sometimes refer to some shorter versions of assault rifles as 'assault carbines', again in the case of the M4 and other Colts, Galil SAR, etc. Again, caliber factors not so much into it. In the case of pistol-caliber SMG-carbines, it's more the opposite; their carbines are generally longer than the equivalent standard weapons, USC vs UMP, HK94 vs MP5, etc. But that doesn't apply to this here. StanTheMan (talk) 16:35, 25 July 2016 (EDT)