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::BTW, there's also one in ''[[Undercover_Brother#XM177E1|Undercover Brother]]'', also from 2002. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 20:53, 20 February 2016 (EST) | ::BTW, there's also one in ''[[Undercover_Brother#XM177E1|Undercover Brother]]'', also from 2002. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 20:53, 20 February 2016 (EST) | ||
::: I understand that the RO635's particular blast deflector is easily installed/removed, but in the event this is not a Colt SMG since it has an A1 upper with the forward assist, which the blowback-operated SMG guns don't need and subsequently don't have (instead having slickside uppers). In ''Undercover Brother'' its listed as an XM177E1, of which it possibility could indeed be that with A1 flash hider fitted instead of the moderator. Otherwise another, more likely and simpler explanation is that these are just A1-receiver Carbines/Commandos with the barrels cut down, akin to the shorty Canadian-receiver ARs in the first few seasons of ''[[X-Files]]''. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 03:00, 21 February 2016 (EST) | ::: I understand that the RO635's particular blast deflector is easily installed/removed, but in the event this is not a Colt SMG since it has an A1 upper with the forward assist, which the blowback-operated SMG guns don't need and subsequently don't have (instead having slickside uppers). In ''Undercover Brother'' its listed as an XM177E1, of which it possibility could indeed be that with A1 flash hider fitted instead of the moderator. Otherwise another, more likely and simpler explanation is that these are just A1-receiver Carbines/Commandos with the barrels cut down, akin to the shorty Canadian-receiver ARs in the first few seasons of ''[[X-Files]]''. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 03:00, 21 February 2016 (EST) | ||
::::Thanks, I got it. What is the most possible base model of Commando carbine for such cut down version? Hardly Mdel 609/610 but maybe Model 629? [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 10:35, 21 February 2016 (EST) | |||
==Other IDs== | ==Other IDs== | ||
The SIG doesn't seem to be a SIG to me, it clearly has a slanted magwell, not flat. Doesn't appear to have an external hammer either, tough to tell. I won't swear to this but a possible guess for me might be a [[Smith & Wesson Sigma]]. The first AK I recall seeing before, can't place it right now though. Second AK is a Norinco Type 56-1 since it appears to have the hooded front sight and non-ribbed receiver. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 03:01, 21 February 2016 (EST) | The SIG doesn't seem to be a SIG to me, it clearly has a slanted magwell, not flat. Doesn't appear to have an external hammer either, tough to tell. I won't swear to this but a possible guess for me might be a [[Smith & Wesson Sigma]]. The first AK I recall seeing before, can't place it right now though. Second AK is a Norinco Type 56-1 since it appears to have the hooded front sight and non-ribbed receiver. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 03:01, 21 February 2016 (EST) | ||
:I think the first AK could be Arsenal AR-M1F, though it seems to have a slightly different muzzle. --[[User:CnC Fin|CnC Fin]] ([[User talk:CnC Fin|talk]]) 05:42, 21 February 2016 (EST) | :I think the first AK could be Arsenal AR-M1F, though it seems to have a slightly different muzzle. --[[User:CnC Fin|CnC Fin]] ([[User talk:CnC Fin|talk]]) 05:42, 21 February 2016 (EST) | ||
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M16 Carbine
This short carbine makes me think about 9mm Colt R0635. Everything except for the caliber looks very like the screen gun. Can it be that 9mm Colt carbine is visually modified by covering 9mm magazine with a large fake 5.56mm one, and so used for firing cheap blank 9mm ammo while looking more impressive? Greg-Z (talk) 16:07, 20 February 2016 (EST)
I would say it to be a CQB-R if not 2002 year that it's a bit too early for CQB-R M16 on screen. Greg-Z (talk) 16:21, 20 February 2016 (EST)
- The RO635 has that distinctive brass deflector. And I don't know why anyone would bother vismodding a 9mm AR to a 5.56mm AR. I just don't think filmmakers care that much. --Funkychinaman (talk) 20:47, 20 February 2016 (EST)
- BTW, there's also one in Undercover Brother, also from 2002. --Funkychinaman (talk) 20:53, 20 February 2016 (EST)
- I understand that the RO635's particular blast deflector is easily installed/removed, but in the event this is not a Colt SMG since it has an A1 upper with the forward assist, which the blowback-operated SMG guns don't need and subsequently don't have (instead having slickside uppers). In Undercover Brother its listed as an XM177E1, of which it possibility could indeed be that with A1 flash hider fitted instead of the moderator. Otherwise another, more likely and simpler explanation is that these are just A1-receiver Carbines/Commandos with the barrels cut down, akin to the shorty Canadian-receiver ARs in the first few seasons of X-Files. StanTheMan (talk) 03:00, 21 February 2016 (EST)
- BTW, there's also one in Undercover Brother, also from 2002. --Funkychinaman (talk) 20:53, 20 February 2016 (EST)
Other IDs
The SIG doesn't seem to be a SIG to me, it clearly has a slanted magwell, not flat. Doesn't appear to have an external hammer either, tough to tell. I won't swear to this but a possible guess for me might be a Smith & Wesson Sigma. The first AK I recall seeing before, can't place it right now though. Second AK is a Norinco Type 56-1 since it appears to have the hooded front sight and non-ribbed receiver. StanTheMan (talk) 03:01, 21 February 2016 (EST)