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Maybe, I'm wrong, but the revolver looks similar to Smith & Wesson Model 36 Chief's Special or Smith & Wesson Model 37 Airweight. Pyramid Silent (talk) 11:07, 29 November 2015 (EST)

Beretta style pistol maybe F/FS, but, also maybe some blank firing replica. Pyramid Silent (talk) 11:11, 29 November 2015 (EST)

About Flintlock Pistol, it's Blunderbuss pistol - it's muzzle is (don't know, how it's translated to English, but it's muzzle is "rastrub" or "voronkoobraznyy"). Compare this: Pyramid Silent (talk) 11:14, 29 November 2015 (EST)

Right, my guess is Umarex Smith & Wesson Chief's Special, a blank firing version of S&W 36. Blank firing handguns by Umarex are often seen in modern Russian movies. Concerning Beretta-style pistols, I think that those with stepped trigger guard and slide mounted safety can be Reck Miami 92F but I have no guess about another version (like the one, hold by "Brain"). Flintlock pistol is 99.9% a non-firing replica without a particular prototype. Greg-Z (talk) 11:18, 29 November 2015 (EST)

The PPK looks to have the longer barrel of a PP. I'm not so sure about the Berettas', the hammers look a bit off on some of them. I agree they are probably some kind of replicas though. 'Zhmurki-Pistol' images all are definitely a S&W automatic (the markings are clear in 'Zhmurki-Pistol-5'), specifically a 5904 given the 3rd gen wraparound grips - All those images appear to be the same gun, including the one with suppressor. StanTheMan (talk) 14:24, 29 November 2015 (EST)

Many thanks! I had the idea about S&W 5904 but was very unsure as I've never seen an S&W pistol in Russian movies. Greg-Z (talk) 15:08, 29 November 2015 (EST)

About Beretta pistol: it's may be Reck Miami 92F or Kimar Model 92.

About Revolver: It's absolutely S&W style, and I think - it's a Smith & Wesson Model 36. Compare this:

What do you think about that? Pyramid Silent (talk) 15:31, 29 November 2015 (EST)

Please read my previous entries: I've already told that Beretta with stepped trigger guard is most likely a Reck Miami 92F and the revolver is Umarex Smith & Wesson Chief's Special. Greg-Z (talk) 15:37, 29 November 2015 (EST)

I'm sorry, I did not notice it. But, Umarex revolver doesn't contain wooden grip, but rubber grip. Pyramid Silent (talk) 15:45, 29 November 2015 (EST)

Here is an Umarex Chief Special with blue finish and wooden grips. But I still need some more work to be sure as there are other blank firing versions of Model 36. Greg-Z (talk) 15:54, 29 November 2015 (EST)

And, about unknown pistol in "gangsta-style". I think, that's some model from M1911 pistol series. The shape is generaly the same. It's maybe also another, more unkmmon pistol, but it's hardly appears in Russian movie. So, the some version of M1911 are my guess. Pyramid Silent (talk) 16:02, 29 November 2015 (EST)

And, Doctor's bodyguards were played by Pavel Ivanov III and Aleksei Sheludyakov, but second in only one movie and I can't found his photos in other movies or realy live. The first also plays in "Doroga bez kontsa", but his only photo is unclear. Pyramid Silent (talk) 16:19, 29 November 2015 (EST)

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 :Beretta style pistol maybe F/FS, but, also maybe some blank firing replica. [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 11:11, 29 November 2015 (EST)
 ::About Flintlock Pistol, it's [[Blunderbuss]] pistol - it's muzzle is (don't know, how it's translated to English, but it's muzzle is "rastrub" or "voronkoobraznyy"). Compare this: [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 11:14, 29 November 2015 (EST)
-[[File:Pistol Blunderbuss.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mid 17th century blunderbuss pistol signed Mariano on barrel of Italian origin.]]
 ::Right, my guess is Umarex Smith & Wesson Chief's Special, a blank firing version of S&W 36. Blank firing handguns by Umarex are often seen in modern Russian movies. Concerning Beretta-style pistols, I think that those with stepped trigger guard and slide mounted safety can be [[Reck Miami 92F]] but I have no guess about another version (like the one, hold by "Brain"). Flintlock pistol is 99.9% a non-firing replica without a particular prototype. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 11:18, 29 November 2015 (EST)
 ::: The PPK looks to have the longer barrel of a PP. I'm not so sure about the Berettas', the hammers look a bit off on some of them. I agree they are probably some kind of replicas though. 'Zhmurki-Pistol' images all are definitely a S&W automatic (the markings are clear in 'Zhmurki-Pistol-5'), specifically a 5904 given the 3rd gen wraparound grips - All those images appear to be the same gun, including the one with suppressor. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 14:24, 29 November 2015 (EST)
 ::::Many thanks! I had the idea about S&W 5904 but was very unsure as I've never seen an S&W pistol in Russian movies. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 15:08, 29 November 2015 (EST)
 :::::About Beretta pistol: it's may be [[Reck Miami 92F]] or [[Kimar Model 92]].
-[[File:KimarM92FSBlankgun.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Kimar Model 92 black - 8mm Blank]]
+About Revolver: It's absolutely S&W style, and I think - it's a [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]]. Compare this:
-[[File:Reck miami 92F.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Reck Miami 92F, black finish - 9mm P.A.K. blanks]]
-[[File:Zhmurki-Beretta-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Executioner" ([[Kirill Pirogov]]) carries a Beretta-style pistol in the opening scene. It has stepped trigger guard.]]
-[[File:Zhmurki-Beretta-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the bodyguards of "Doctor" ([[Aleksey Serebryakov]]) is armed with a Beretta-style pistol.]]
-[[File:Zhmurki-Beretta-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another view of the same scene.]]
-[[File:Zhmurki-Beretta-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A petty criminal tries to rob Sergey and Simon, using a Beretta-style pistol.]]
-[[File:Zhmurki-Beretta-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|When "Brain" ([[Garik Sukachyov]]) and his henchmen appear, one of the henchmen (at the left) holds a Beretta-style pistol.]]
-[[File:Zhmurki-Beretta-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Brain" himself also is armed with a Beretta-style pistol.]]
-[[File:Zhmurki-Beretta-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Brain" aims his pistol. Note the rounded trigger guard and the lack of slide mounted safety.]]
-About Revolver: It's absolutely S&W style, and I think - it's a [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]]. Compare this:
-[[Image:S&W 36.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith & Wesson Model 36 - .38 Special - 5 shot.  First pattern with flat latch cylinder release.]]
-[[File:Zhmurki-Revolver-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sergey hands the revolver to Koron. The wooden grip is seen.]]
-[[File:Zhmurki-Revolver-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Koron holds the revolver.]]
-[[File:Zhmurki-Revolver-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sergey takes back the revolver.]]
-[[File:Zhmurki-Revolver-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The revolver with open cylinder. Cartridges are seen on the table.]]
-[[File:Zhmurki-Revolver-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bala with the revolver.]]
 What do you think about that? [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 15:31, 29 November 2015 (EST)
 :Please read my previous entries: I've already told that Beretta with stepped trigger guard is most likely a Reck Miami 92F and the revolver is Umarex Smith & Wesson Chief's Special. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 15:37, 29 November 2015 (EST)

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