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::: The PPK looks to have the longer barrel of a PP. I'm not so sure about the Berettas', the hammers look a bit off on some of them. I agree they are probably some kind of replicas though. 'Zhmurki-Pistol' images all are definitely a S&W automatic (the markings are clear in 'Zhmurki-Pistol-5'), specifically a 5904 given the 3rd gen wraparound grips - All those images appear to be the same gun, including the one with suppressor. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 14:24, 29 November 2015 (EST) | ::: The PPK looks to have the longer barrel of a PP. I'm not so sure about the Berettas', the hammers look a bit off on some of them. I agree they are probably some kind of replicas though. 'Zhmurki-Pistol' images all are definitely a S&W automatic (the markings are clear in 'Zhmurki-Pistol-5'), specifically a 5904 given the 3rd gen wraparound grips - All those images appear to be the same gun, including the one with suppressor. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 14:24, 29 November 2015 (EST) | ||
::::Many thanks! I had the idea about S&W 5904 but was very unsure as I've never seen an S&W pistol in Russian movies. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 15:08, 29 November 2015 (EST) | ::::Many thanks! I had the idea about S&W 5904 but was very unsure as I've never seen an S&W pistol in Russian movies. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 15:08, 29 November 2015 (EST) | ||
:::::About Beretta pistol: it's may be [[Reck Miami 92F]] or [[Kimar Model 92]]. | |||
[[File:KimarM92FSBlankgun.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Kimar Model 92 black - 8mm Blank]] | |||
[[File:Reck miami 92F.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Reck Miami 92F, black finish - 9mm P.A.K. blanks]] | |||
[[File:Zhmurki-Beretta-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Executioner" ([[Kirill Pirogov]]) carries a Beretta-style pistol in the opening scene. It has stepped trigger guard.]] | |||
[[File:Zhmurki-Beretta-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the bodyguards of "Doctor" ([[Aleksey Serebryakov]]) is armed with a Beretta-style pistol.]] | |||
[[File:Zhmurki-Beretta-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another view of the same scene.]] | |||
[[File:Zhmurki-Beretta-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A petty criminal tries to rob Sergey and Simon, using a Beretta-style pistol.]] | |||
[[File:Zhmurki-Beretta-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|When "Brain" ([[Garik Sukachyov]]) and his henchmen appear, one of the henchmen (at the left) holds a Beretta-style pistol.]] | |||
[[File:Zhmurki-Beretta-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Brain" himself also is armed with a Beretta-style pistol.]] | |||
[[File:Zhmurki-Beretta-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Brain" aims his pistol. Note the rounded trigger guard and the lack of slide mounted safety.]] | |||
About Revolver: It's absolutely S&W style, and I think - it's a [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]]. Compare this: | |||
[[Image:S&W 36.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith & Wesson Model 36 - .38 Special - 5 shot. First pattern with flat latch cylinder release.]] | |||
[[File:Zhmurki-Revolver-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sergey hands the revolver to Koron. The wooden grip is seen.]] | |||
[[File:Zhmurki-Revolver-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Koron holds the revolver.]] | |||
[[File:Zhmurki-Revolver-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sergey takes back the revolver.]] | |||
[[File:Zhmurki-Revolver-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The revolver with open cylinder. Cartridges are seen on the table.]] | |||
[[File:Zhmurki-Revolver-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bala with the revolver.]] | |||
What do you think about that? [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 15:31, 29 November 2015 (EST) | |||
Revision as of 20:31, 29 November 2015
Maybe, I'm wrong, but the revolver looks similar to Smith & Wesson Model 36 Chief's Special or Smith & Wesson Model 37 Airweight. Pyramid Silent (talk) 11:07, 29 November 2015 (EST)
- Beretta style pistol maybe F/FS, but, also maybe some blank firing replica. Pyramid Silent (talk) 11:11, 29 November 2015 (EST)
- About Flintlock Pistol, it's Blunderbuss pistol - it's muzzle is (don't know, how it's translated to English, but it's muzzle is "rastrub" or "voronkoobraznyy"). Compare this: Pyramid Silent (talk) 11:14, 29 November 2015 (EST)
- Right, my guess is Umarex Smith & Wesson Chief's Special, a blank firing version of S&W 36. Blank firing handguns by Umarex are often seen in modern Russian movies. Concerning Beretta-style pistols, I think that those with stepped trigger guard and slide mounted safety can be Reck Miami 92F but I have no guess about another version (like the one, hold by "Brain"). Flintlock pistol is 99.9% a non-firing replica without a particular prototype. Greg-Z (talk) 11:18, 29 November 2015 (EST)
- The PPK looks to have the longer barrel of a PP. I'm not so sure about the Berettas', the hammers look a bit off on some of them. I agree they are probably some kind of replicas though. 'Zhmurki-Pistol' images all are definitely a S&W automatic (the markings are clear in 'Zhmurki-Pistol-5'), specifically a 5904 given the 3rd gen wraparound grips - All those images appear to be the same gun, including the one with suppressor. StanTheMan (talk) 14:24, 29 November 2015 (EST)
- Many thanks! I had the idea about S&W 5904 but was very unsure as I've never seen an S&W pistol in Russian movies. Greg-Z (talk) 15:08, 29 November 2015 (EST)
- About Beretta pistol: it's may be Reck Miami 92F or Kimar Model 92.
- Many thanks! I had the idea about S&W 5904 but was very unsure as I've never seen an S&W pistol in Russian movies. Greg-Z (talk) 15:08, 29 November 2015 (EST)
- The PPK looks to have the longer barrel of a PP. I'm not so sure about the Berettas', the hammers look a bit off on some of them. I agree they are probably some kind of replicas though. 'Zhmurki-Pistol' images all are definitely a S&W automatic (the markings are clear in 'Zhmurki-Pistol-5'), specifically a 5904 given the 3rd gen wraparound grips - All those images appear to be the same gun, including the one with suppressor. StanTheMan (talk) 14:24, 29 November 2015 (EST)
- Right, my guess is Umarex Smith & Wesson Chief's Special, a blank firing version of S&W 36. Blank firing handguns by Umarex are often seen in modern Russian movies. Concerning Beretta-style pistols, I think that those with stepped trigger guard and slide mounted safety can be Reck Miami 92F but I have no guess about another version (like the one, hold by "Brain"). Flintlock pistol is 99.9% a non-firing replica without a particular prototype. Greg-Z (talk) 11:18, 29 November 2015 (EST)
About Revolver: It's absolutely S&W style, and I think - it's a Smith & Wesson Model 36. Compare this:
What do you think about that? Pyramid Silent (talk) 15:31, 29 November 2015 (EST)