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Also weren't some of these guys Navy SEALs? I know guys in the services will always distinguish being called a Soldier, a Marine, a Sailor and an Airman. They don't like or want the one term for all guys who serve to be thrown around and consider misidentification a bit insulting. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 21:31, 4 November 2015 (EST) | Also weren't some of these guys Navy SEALs? I know guys in the services will always distinguish being called a Soldier, a Marine, a Sailor and an Airman. They don't like or want the one term for all guys who serve to be thrown around and consider misidentification a bit insulting. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 21:31, 4 November 2015 (EST) | ||
:Two of the Annex Security team members were former SEALs, three were former Marines and one was a former Ranger. One member of the 'relief' force was also a former SEAL and the others were active duty SOF. But these guys, strictly speaking, were not CIA. They were members of the Global Response Staff which, while made up of some CIA staffers, is usually comprised of former SOF operators who act as security for intelligence outposts and diplomats. My guess is the creation of that group was due to the fall from grace of Blackwater and other PMCs. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 20:15, 5 November 2015 (EST) | :Two of the Annex Security team members were former SEALs, three were former Marines and one was a former Ranger. One member of the 'relief' force was also a former SEAL and the others were active duty SOF. But these guys, strictly speaking, were not CIA. They were members of the Global Response Staff which, while made up of some CIA staffers, is usually comprised of former SOF operators who act as security for intelligence outposts and diplomats. My guess is the creation of that group was due to the fall from grace of Blackwater and other PMCs. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 20:15, 5 November 2015 (EST) | ||
== Saw it tonight == | |||
Pretty intense movie. A few things that stood out were that the M4s appeared to have correct A2 flash hiders judging by their muzzle flashes, there were two Deltas with suppressed HK416 D10RS, during one scene in a market a merchant is briefly seen holding up an AKMSU with the original thumbhole forestock, and in the same scene was shown a Beretta PM12S. The Daesh militants also used mortars I couldn't ID to bombard the annex. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 04:11, 15 January 2016 (EST) | |||
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Please help ID
Please help ID. --Ben41 (talk) 01:09, 29 July 2015 (EDT)
M110 SASS maybe? --Charon68 (talk) 06:46, 29 July 2015 (EDT) This is an HK417--CFS01 (talk) 15:05, 3 September 2015 (EDT)
PKM? --Charon68 (talk) 06:46, 29 July 2015 (EDT)
I'm pretty sure that's a 3rd gen Glock, an intermediate variant, a Glock 19 or quite possibly a Glock 23, though the slide looks a bit off (could be some kind of custom slide). The other pistol looks like the SIG P226R mentioned on the page. StanTheMan (talk) 23:50, 13 August 2015 (EDT)
- That would be in keeping with these guys being former SEALs. --Charon68 (talk) 04:54, 14 August 2015 (EDT)
AR looks like a Salient Arms AR15 with their Jailbreak muzzle attachment
The Book
Just finished the book this movie is based on. The only weapons mentioned (clearly) are M4s, AKs, PKMs and a belt fed machine gun, carried by the GRS operators, that is only described as being 22lbs. with a 200 round belt so I am guessing it is/was an M249 variant. Oh and not that it's germain to the topic of this site but 'Jack Silva' is actually a pseudonym...the real guy chose anonymity when the book was being written in collaboration with the Annex Security Team. --Charon68 (talk) 19:49, 13 August 2015 (EDT)
Also weren't some of these guys Navy SEALs? I know guys in the services will always distinguish being called a Soldier, a Marine, a Sailor and an Airman. They don't like or want the one term for all guys who serve to be thrown around and consider misidentification a bit insulting. Excalibur01 (talk) 21:31, 4 November 2015 (EST)
- Two of the Annex Security team members were former SEALs, three were former Marines and one was a former Ranger. One member of the 'relief' force was also a former SEAL and the others were active duty SOF. But these guys, strictly speaking, were not CIA. They were members of the Global Response Staff which, while made up of some CIA staffers, is usually comprised of former SOF operators who act as security for intelligence outposts and diplomats. My guess is the creation of that group was due to the fall from grace of Blackwater and other PMCs. --Charon68 (talk) 20:15, 5 November 2015 (EST)
Saw it tonight
Pretty intense movie. A few things that stood out were that the M4s appeared to have correct A2 flash hiders judging by their muzzle flashes, there were two Deltas with suppressed HK416 D10RS, during one scene in a market a merchant is briefly seen holding up an AKMSU with the original thumbhole forestock, and in the same scene was shown a Beretta PM12S. The Daesh militants also used mortars I couldn't ID to bombard the annex. Spartan198 (talk) 04:11, 15 January 2016 (EST)