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[[Image:Stripes-SP1a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|''"All I know is, finally I get to kill somebody."'' Private Francis "Psycho" Soyer ([[Conrad Dunn]]) loads a 20 round magazine into an SP1 'slab side' rifle.]] | [[Image:Stripes-SP1a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|''"All I know is, finally I get to kill somebody."'' Private Francis "Psycho" Soyer ([[Conrad Dunn]]) loads a 20 round magazine into an SP1 'slab side' rifle.]] | ||
==M1 Garand | ==M1 Garand 'Training Rifles'== | ||
During the boot camp sequences of the film, the recruits don't actually use real [[M1 Garand]] rifles. They instead use plastic & metal training rifles patterned after the M1 Garand. | During the boot camp sequences of the film, the recruits don't actually use real [[M1 Garand]] rifles. They instead use plastic & metal training rifles patterned after the M1 Garand. | ||
[[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1 Garand semiautomatic Rifle with leather M1917 sling - .30-06]] | [[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1 Garand semiautomatic Rifle with leather M1917 sling - .30-06]] | ||
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[[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1 Garand semiautomatic Rifle with leather M1917 sling - .30-06]] | [[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1 Garand semiautomatic Rifle with leather M1917 sling - .30-06]] | ||
[[Image:Stripes 117.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M1 Garand rifle seen on the far right.]] | [[Image:Stripes 117.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M1 Garand rifle seen on the far right.]] | ||
=Handguns= | |||
==M1911A1== | |||
The Standard sidearm of all of the U.S. Military personnel (officers, NCOs, Military Police) is the [[M1911A1]] in the film. What is interesting is that the so called "Russian Soldiers" (i.e. the officers) at the end of the film also carry M1911A1 pistols. It is supposed that they couldn't get [[Tokarev TT-33]] pistols or [[Makarov PM]] pistols. However, they still could have gotten [[Walther PP]] pistols though, which greatly resemble the Makarov PM (Indeed, the Makarov PM is based on it). | |||
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|300px|none|World War II issued Colt M1911A1 Pistol - .45 ACP]] | |||
[[Image:Stripes-M1911A1a.jpg |thumb|none|600px|PVT John Winger ([[Bill Murray]]) threatens Czechoslovakian Border guard ([[Joe Flaherty]]) with his M1911A1 while PVT Russell Ziskey ([[Harold Ramis]]) thinks of the consequences. '''Note:''' This is a fictional uniform for the Czechoslovakian soldier, made up of obsolete American uniform parts - It looks nothing like the real uniform that a border guard would have worn.]] | |||
=Submachine Guns= | |||
==Fake Uzi Submachine gun aka 'The MAC-Uzi'== | |||
Seen in the film are the fake Uzi Submachine guns, fabricated out of [[MAC-10]]s (9x19mm versions) by Special Effects Unlimited, in the 1970s. There may have not been enough real blank adapted Uzis in the U.S. at the time so these faux Uzis were used in several movies. These fake Uzis were famously used in the Christopher Walken film ''[[The Dogs of War]]'' and also in the films ''High Risk'', ''[[The Killer Elite]]'' and ''[[Raw Deal]]''. | |||
The Fake Uzis in the film are equipped with fixed wooden stocks and are seen used mostly by "Russian" soldiers. The use of Uzis (represented by both the fake 'MAC-Uzis' and actual versions in the film) by Warsaw Pact forces during this period would have been quite unlikely. It is possible these weapons were standing in for the [[SA.23|Sa.23]] (9mm Parabellum) and [[SA.23|Sa.24]] (7.62x25mm Tokarev) Czech SMGs, which weren't available at the time of filming. | |||
[[Image:Stripes-MAC-Uzi 01aa.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Czechoslovakian Border guard ([[Joe Flaherty]]) with his mockup 'MAC-Uzi' with a full wooden stock.]] | |||
[[Image:Stripes-MAC-Uzi 01CUa.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Closeup of the 'MAC-Uzi' with a full wooden stock.]] | |||
[[Image:Stripes-MacUzi 02a.jpg |thumb|none|600px|The "Russian" Soldier in the tower reacts to the RV's rocket launcher while holding a 'MAC-Uzi'.]] | |||
==MAC-10== | |||
[[MAC-10]]s are used by John Winger ([[Bill Murray]]) and Stella Hansen ([[P.J. Soles]]) during the rescue and by Russell Ziskey ([[Harold Ramis]]) at the end of the film. | |||
[[Image:IngramMAC10.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Ingram MAC-10 open bolt submachine gun - 9x19mm]] | |||
[[Image:Stripes-MAC-10a.jpg |thumb|none|600px|John Winger ([[Bill Murray]]) and Stella Hansen ([[P.J. Soles]]) wield their MAC-10s during the rescue of their platoon.]] | |||
[[Image:Stripes 129.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Russell Ziskey ([[Harold Ramis]]) with the MAC-10.]] | |||
[[Image:Stripes-MAC10 04a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Russell fires his [[MAC-10]] at the charging Russians.]] | |||
==Uzi== | |||
A few real [[Uzi#Uzi|Uzi Submachine Guns]] with full wooden stocks are briefly seen mixed in with the other weapons at the "Russian" base. Like their fake counterparts, the real Uzis in the film are equipped with fixed wooden stocks and are seen used mostly by "Russian" soldiers. The use of Uzis (represented by both the real versions and the aforementioned fake 'MAC-Uzis' in the film) by Warsaw Pact forces during this period would have been quite unlikely. It is possible these weapons were standing in for the [[SA.23|Sa.23]] (9mm Parabellum) and [[SA.23|Sa.24]] (7.62x25mm Tokarev) Czech SMGs, which weren't available at the time of filming. | |||
[[Image:Uzi-3.jpg|thumb|none|450px|IMI Uzi with wooden buttstock - 9x19mm]] | |||
[[Image:Stripes-UziA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Seen at the lower left of frame, a Russian soldier holds a wooden stocked Uzi. '''Note:''' observe the "Russian Officers" uniform - No Soviet officer would wear their rank like that; the ranks were on the shoulder boards (which this uniform lacks) and they did not have service hash marks on their sleeves.]] | |||
=Machine Guns= | =Machine Guns= | ||
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==M67 Hand Grenade== | ==M67 Hand Grenade== | ||
Corporal Tyson ([[John Voldstad]]) must get rid of a supposedly | Corporal Tyson ([[John Voldstad]]) must get rid of a supposedly 'live' [[M67 hand grenade]] of which Captain Stillman accidentally pulls the pin. But it is clear that he holds the blue painted '''M69 Training hand grenade'''. A few notes - (a) An Army officer would not be allowed to have live ordnance sitting on his desk, (b) the Corporal would probably have the presence of mind to not run with the grenade (and possibly trip) and just hold down the spoon until he can dispose of it (hopefully he is near the grenade range) or just take the pin and re-insert it into the fuse body and (c) in the film, Tyson yells "Grenade!" seconds after he leaves the office and we hear an explosion... one wonders where he threw the grenade since it was so near to an Army Administration building full of people(?) | ||
[[Image:M67.jpg|thumb|none|150px|M69 training grenade - an inert version of the M67 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade.]] | [[Image:M67.jpg|thumb|none|150px|M69 training grenade - an inert version of the M67 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade.]] | ||
[[Image:Stripes-M67A.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CPL Tyson ([[John Voldstad]]) nervously holds an M67 hand grenade (actually an inert blue M69 training grenade).]] | [[Image:Stripes-M67A.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CPL Tyson ([[John Voldstad]]) nervously holds an M67 hand grenade (actually an inert blue M69 training grenade).]] | ||
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A yet unidentified American Field Gun (direct fire artillery versus a Howitzer which is a high angle of fire weapon) is used by a "Russian" gunner who is dispatched by Sergeant Hulka ([[Warren Oates]]). It tries to destroy the American "Urban Assault Vehicle" with direct fire, but fails. Its second shot goes wild and destroys the remains of the Czech Border Guard Station. | A yet unidentified American Field Gun (direct fire artillery versus a Howitzer which is a high angle of fire weapon) is used by a "Russian" gunner who is dispatched by Sergeant Hulka ([[Warren Oates]]). It tries to destroy the American "Urban Assault Vehicle" with direct fire, but fails. Its second shot goes wild and destroys the remains of the Czech Border Guard Station. | ||
[[Image:Stripes-Artillery-PieceA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Hulka ([[Warren Oates]]) knocks out the Russian gunner, causing the barrel to swing upwards and fire.]] | [[Image:Stripes-Artillery-PieceA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Hulka ([[Warren Oates]]) knocks out the Russian gunner, causing the barrel to swing upwards and fire.]] | ||
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Revision as of 03:43, 10 September 2015
Stripes is the 1981 hit comedy starring Bill Murray and Harold Ramis (both would later re-team with director Ivan Reitman for the 1984 comedy classic Ghostbusters) as two buddies that decide to join the US Army when their civilian lives begin to crumble around them. Despite being a broad farce with implausible situations, it is indicative of the mindset of the U.S. Military Volunteer Army in the mid-late 1970s (i.e. the immediate Post-Vietnam War Years). Morale was not high, and despite an active Cold War with the Soviets, the military's budget was slashed under then President Jimmy Carter. Stripes was filmed with the cooperation of the U.S. Army who provided a Command Sergeant Major as technical adviser, and many of the scenes were filmed at the active Army base in Fort Knox, Kentucky (but nowhere near the famous "gold reserve"). Despite being irreverent, the film still depicted American Soldiers as brave and dedicated, albeit a little weird and goofy. It was that positive portrayal of the U.S. Army in general (despite some comical and incompetent characters) which allowed the Defense Department to approve lending assistance for the production. In 2005, a special edition DVD was released that included an extended cut of the film.
The following weapons were used in the film Stripes (1981):
Rifles
M16A1
During basic training, the recruits are seen with M16A1 rifles.
M16 (SP1)
Mixed in the M16A1 rifles are M16 (AR-15 SP1) 'slab side' receiver rifles. Though there may have been some left over original M16s in Army inventory during the 1970s, when this movie was filmed, it would have been rare. These are 'movie' guns; SP1 rifles converted to full-auto by movie armorers.
M1 Garand 'Training Rifles'
During the boot camp sequences of the film, the recruits don't actually use real M1 Garand rifles. They instead use plastic & metal training rifles patterned after the M1 Garand.
Valmet M71S
Many of the so called "Russian Soldiers" at the base in Czechoslovakia are carrying Valmet M71S rifles, since real AKs or AK clones were near impossible to get in the 1970s. Only with the advent of imported rifles from China and Egypt did American movies get to see closer versions of the AK rifle series. The Valmet M71S rifles used in the film appear to be the 5.56mm versions.
M1 Garand
In the Extended Cut, several of the South American rebels that capture Winger and Ziskey carry M1 Garand rifles.
Handguns
M1911A1
The Standard sidearm of all of the U.S. Military personnel (officers, NCOs, Military Police) is the M1911A1 in the film. What is interesting is that the so called "Russian Soldiers" (i.e. the officers) at the end of the film also carry M1911A1 pistols. It is supposed that they couldn't get Tokarev TT-33 pistols or Makarov PM pistols. However, they still could have gotten Walther PP pistols though, which greatly resemble the Makarov PM (Indeed, the Makarov PM is based on it).
Submachine Guns
Fake Uzi Submachine gun aka 'The MAC-Uzi'
Seen in the film are the fake Uzi Submachine guns, fabricated out of MAC-10s (9x19mm versions) by Special Effects Unlimited, in the 1970s. There may have not been enough real blank adapted Uzis in the U.S. at the time so these faux Uzis were used in several movies. These fake Uzis were famously used in the Christopher Walken film The Dogs of War and also in the films High Risk, The Killer Elite and Raw Deal.
The Fake Uzis in the film are equipped with fixed wooden stocks and are seen used mostly by "Russian" soldiers. The use of Uzis (represented by both the fake 'MAC-Uzis' and actual versions in the film) by Warsaw Pact forces during this period would have been quite unlikely. It is possible these weapons were standing in for the Sa.23 (9mm Parabellum) and Sa.24 (7.62x25mm Tokarev) Czech SMGs, which weren't available at the time of filming.
MAC-10
MAC-10s are used by John Winger (Bill Murray) and Stella Hansen (P.J. Soles) during the rescue and by Russell Ziskey (Harold Ramis) at the end of the film.
Uzi
A few real Uzi Submachine Guns with full wooden stocks are briefly seen mixed in with the other weapons at the "Russian" base. Like their fake counterparts, the real Uzis in the film are equipped with fixed wooden stocks and are seen used mostly by "Russian" soldiers. The use of Uzis (represented by both the real versions and the aforementioned fake 'MAC-Uzis' in the film) by Warsaw Pact forces during this period would have been quite unlikely. It is possible these weapons were standing in for the Sa.23 (9mm Parabellum) and Sa.24 (7.62x25mm Tokarev) Czech SMGs, which weren't available at the time of filming.
Machine Guns
M60
In the "Extended Cut", an Army Special Forces soldier is seen getting onto the transport armed with an M60 machine gun with the bipod removed.
Browning M2HB
A Browning M2HB is briefly seen mounted atop an US Army M113 APC.
Other
M72A2 LAW
An M72 LAW is seen carried by Corporal Tyson (John Voldstad) when the platoon gets ready to go after Winger and Ziskey. The LAW rocket launchers are the M72A2 version, however, they have the large sticker on the side indicating that they are the Trainers, not the standard rockets.
M224 60mm Light Mortar
Recruits at Fort Knox are seen firing the M224 60mm Light Mortars at the range.
M67 Hand Grenade
Corporal Tyson (John Voldstad) must get rid of a supposedly 'live' M67 hand grenade of which Captain Stillman accidentally pulls the pin. But it is clear that he holds the blue painted M69 Training hand grenade. A few notes - (a) An Army officer would not be allowed to have live ordnance sitting on his desk, (b) the Corporal would probably have the presence of mind to not run with the grenade (and possibly trip) and just hold down the spoon until he can dispose of it (hopefully he is near the grenade range) or just take the pin and re-insert it into the fuse body and (c) in the film, Tyson yells "Grenade!" seconds after he leaves the office and we hear an explosion... one wonders where he threw the grenade since it was so near to an Army Administration building full of people(?)
Field Gun
A yet unidentified American Field Gun (direct fire artillery versus a Howitzer which is a high angle of fire weapon) is used by a "Russian" gunner who is dispatched by Sergeant Hulka (Warren Oates). It tries to destroy the American "Urban Assault Vehicle" with direct fire, but fails. Its second shot goes wild and destroys the remains of the Czech Border Guard Station.
