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==M60E3==
==M60E3==
When Rambo flies the POWs out of the prison camp in a Bell UH-1 Huey (possibly a Vietnamese one (due to the VPA making use of former ARVN weapons and vehicles after the Fall of Saigon in 1975) on loan to the Soviets), he lands the chopper and picks up an [[M60|M60E3]] machine gun from the chopper door. He later empties it in the the command center to destroy all the high tech equipment and scare Marshall Murdock ([[Charles Napier]]) for betraying him.
When Rambo flies the POWs out of the prison camp in a Bell UH-1 Huey (possibly a Vietnamese one (due to the VPA making use of former ARVN weapons and vehicles after the Fall of Saigon in 1975) on loan to the Soviets), he lands the chopper and picks up an [[M60|M60E3]] machine gun from the chopper door. He later empties it in the the command center to destroy all the high tech equipment and scare Marshall Murdock ([[Charles Napier]]) for betraying him.
While the gun mounted in the helicopter is an M60-E3, it miraculously becomes an M60-E4 when Rambo takes it off its mount and fires it by hand and remains so for the rest of the film. Note the shorter barrel when Rambo is holding it in relation to the gas tube beneath. The E4 was a shorter version of the E3 designed primary for Navy SEALS.
[[Image:USOM60E3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60E3 - 7.62x51mm NATO‎]]
[[Image:USOM60E3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60E3 - 7.62x51mm NATO‎]]
[[Image:RamboIIM60E3-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The big russian henchman fires an M60E3 at Rambo in the water.]]
[[Image:RamboIIM60E3-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The big russian henchman fires an M60E3 at Rambo in the water.]]

Revision as of 00:18, 17 March 2009

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The following guns are used in the film:







Heckler & Koch MP5A3 (fake)

Issued to John Rambo (Sylvester Stallone) by his CIA controllers is a Heckler & Koch MP5A3. He loses the weapon when he is forced to cut away his equipment when his parachute rigging gets caught up during insertion. When he is first seen loading it up, it is fitted with a 3x scope, but when he prepares for the drop, it appears to have been removed. Like many other "MP5A3s" at the time, this gun is actually a chopped and converted HK94.

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Heckler & Koch MP5A3 with older style friction grip forend - 9mm.
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Rambo loads 9mm round into his MP5A3 magazine, which are clearly fired dummy rounds.
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Rambo loads the MP5A3, which is fitted with a 3x scope.
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Rambo looks through the scope of the MP5A3 but is cleary too close for proper eye relief, and would likely see nothing but a blur through it.
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Rambo prepares for the drop with his MP5A3 in hand.
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Rambo tightly grasps his MP5A3.

Heckler & Koch HK93

A Vietnamese soldier is seen armed with an H&K HK93 rifle while watching from a tree. It is far more likely to be an HK93 over an HK33 because Stembridge gun rentals had many in stock at the time and they were easier to acquire over the selective fire HK33 variant.

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Heckler & Koch HK93 - 5.56x45mm.
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A Vietnamese soldier on guard with an HK93.

Valmet M78

A Vietnamese soldier is seen armed with an Valmet M78 rifle in a tree. It appears to be dressed up like an SVD Dragunov by adding the infamous thumb-hole stock and being fitted with a scope.

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Valmet M78 with full stock and bipod - 7.62x39mm.
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A Vietnamese lookout guard armed with a dressed up Valmet M78.

AKM

When Rambo first lands in Vietnam, he meets up with Co Bao (Julia Nickson-Soul) who is armed with an AKM. Rambo later picks up a few AKMs throughout he film to dispatch several enemy Vietnamese and Russian soldiers. Vietnamese and Russian troops are widely seen armed with AKMs as well. As in most Hollywood movies, the AKMs in the film are all Egyptian Maadi ARM copies of the original Soviet AKM(Much like in Red Dawn).

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Maadi AKM - 7.62x39mm similar to those seen in the movie.
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Co Bao armed with her AKM as she guides Rambo.
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A corrupt Vietnamese sailer steals Co Bao's AKM and holds it like any low paid extra would.
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Co Bao fires her AKM through the boat roof.
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Rambo drops his extremely muddy AKM when the Vietnamese close in on him.
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Russian troops lined up armed with several AK variants, mainly AKMS.
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Rambo fires an AKM when he escapes the Vietnamese camp. Note how the muzzle break is clearly doing what it is supposed to do.
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Capt. Vihn (George Cheung) fires his AKM at Co Bao while still keeping his sinister "bad guy" face.
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Rambo returns fire with his AKM.
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A Russian soldier armed with an AKM searched for Rambo.
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Another Russian with an AKM.
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A close up on the muzzle of a Vietnamese soldier's AKM while they search for Rambo in a field.
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Capt. Vihn fires his AKM at Rambo.

Poly Tech Legend AK-47

One of the Russian soldiers is seen with a genuine AK-47, likely a Poly Tech Legend AK-47 rifle, although this may have to be confirmed due to sketchy time era.

We seriously need a good picture of a PT Legend. Don't use that picture of an original Type I Soviet AK-47 because the PT Legend looks nothing like that.
Yeah, I know. I was just using what I had to work with. Lets ask MPM2008 and add a thousand and ONEth gun to his to-do list. I wish I had his high tech goodies so I could help him out. I just screencapped the entire Rambo II film and still I feel useless. Ugh.
Haha, no worries. I seriously wish I could be more helpful as well.
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A Russian soldier searches for Rambo armed with a possible Poly Tech Legend AK-47.

M60 machine gun

The door gunner of the chopper sent to pick up Rambo is seen firing an M60 machine gun and killing several Vietnamese soldiers with it.

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M60 machine gun - 7.62x51mm NATO.
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The door gunner mans an M60.
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The door gunner fires the M60.

DShK(mock up)

When Rambo and the POWs are escaping in the fake Hind D(Which in reality is a French Aerospatiale Puma), another chopper flies up and begins firing at them with an M60D which looks to be dressed up to look like a aircraft model DShK heavy machine gun by being fitted with a semi-similair muzzle break and spade grips.

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M60D machine gun - 7.62x51mm NATO.
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DShK - 12.7x109mm.
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The Russian door-gunner fires a mocked up M60D.
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Note spade grips and M60D body when the door gunner is killed.

M60E3

When Rambo flies the POWs out of the prison camp in a Bell UH-1 Huey (possibly a Vietnamese one (due to the VPA making use of former ARVN weapons and vehicles after the Fall of Saigon in 1975) on loan to the Soviets), he lands the chopper and picks up an M60E3 machine gun from the chopper door. He later empties it in the the command center to destroy all the high tech equipment and scare Marshall Murdock (Charles Napier) for betraying him.

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M60E3 - 7.62x51mm NATO‎
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The big russian henchman fires an M60E3 at Rambo in the water.
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Rambo pulls the M60E3 off the chopper door.
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Rambo fires the M60E3 like a real action hero, one handed!
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Note the obvious blank adapter in the muzzle of the M60E3.
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Rambo with the M60E3.
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Rambo wraps the belt of 7.62x51mm NATO rounds around his arm.
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Rambo fires the M60E3 at the equipment in the command center.
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Close up on the action of the M60E3. Note bottle necked blank shell in mid-flight.
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The floor of the base becomes littered with belt links and bottle neck blank shells. (you'd think they'd toss some real brass on the floor for realism).
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Another close up of the M60E3 reveals the serial number is "1259233" if someone ever wanted to find it in an armory.

Ingram MAC-10

When Co Bao disguises herself as a prostitute to save Rambo, she uses a MAC-10 with a mock-suppressor to fend off the Vietnamese troops. Somehow this film was nominated for a sound oscar despite how Rambo's AK spits out rounds at ~650RPM while her MAC-10 fires at ~1200RPM and both guns have the same report in the film.

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MAC-10
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Co Bao searchs for Rambo with her MAC-10 fitted with a mock suppressor in hand.
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Co Bao fires her MAC-10.

Fake RPG-7

Rambo disposes of an enemy boat by pulling a fake RPG-7 (which appears like the armorers of Red Dawn, who did this film, brought it with them from that film, albeit more convincingly dressed up) out from under a compartment in the gun boat.

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RPG-7 70mm
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The Gunboat captain (Dana Lee) shows Rambo an fake RPG-7 hidden in a compartment.
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The warhead is clearly Russian marked with a 1943 date and a 7.62 mark which is strange to be place on a 70mm rocket warhead. Marking on RPG warhead in translate: "Cartridges 7,62mm 1943 year". Apparently a props person just copied a label from a 7.62mm cartridge box (either 39 or 54R) and put it on the warhead figuring no one would notice.
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Rambo retrieves the fake RPG-7 as the boat is riddled with enemy fire.
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Rambo aims the fake RPG-7.
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Close-up on the trigger of the fake RPG-7 before Rambo fires it.

M72 LAW

When Rambo crashes his chopper, the enemy helo flies over to confirm the crash. Rambo plays dead until they fly over fires (with the safety on) an M72 LAW launcher through the windshield and blows them up. It should be noted that the back blast would have likely killed or wounded all the POWs in the back of the chopper.

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M72 LAW - 66mm

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Rambo readies the M72 LAW.
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The shot of Rambo pulling the trigger on the RPG is hilariously reused to show him fire the LAW, depsite the entirely different shape and mechanism.
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Rambo fires the LAW through the hole in the windshield and takes out the "Hind".

Rambo's Survival Knife

While not a gun, we let Rambo's knife stay because, well, he's Rambo and his knife completes him.

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Rambo II Survival Knife
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Rambo holds his knife to Co Bao when he first meets her.
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Rambo scrathes the boat floor with his knife.
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Rambo uses his knife's gnarled teeth to cut a barbed wire fence in the Vietnamese camp.
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Rambo with his knife in the camp.
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Lt. Col. Podovsky (Steven Berkoff) burns Rambo with his heated knife.
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Mission.....
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Accomplished.

Hoyt Archery Rambo compound

Another non-firearm Rambo gets away with, his Hoyt Archery compound bow which has been well know as the "Torque Bow" because of the high explosive arrow tips he fires from it.

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Rambo's Hoyt Archery "Torque Bow".
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Rambo examines his Torque tips before dropping into Vietnam.
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Rambo screws a razor tip onto his arrow.
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Rambo screws a Torque tip on his arrow.
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Rambo firing his Torque bow.
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Rambo firing his Torque bow.
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Rambo firing his Torque bow.

Remington 870

A Vietnamese pirate can be seen wielding a Remington 870 shotgun with a wooden forend, extended magazine tube, and folding stock. Rambo (Sylvester Stallone) fires a few rounds at the pirates with the shotgun.

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Remington 870 w/ folding stock and extended mag tube - 12 gauge.
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A Vietnamese pirate holds a folding stock 870 at Rambo.
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Rambo fires the 870 at the pirates.
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Close up on the ejection port of the 870.

Dual Browning M3 anti-aircraft

An opposing Vietnamese gunboat begins to blow apart the gunboat Rambo is on with dual mounted Browning M3 anti-aircraft .50 caliber guns noted by their perferated barrel shrouds.

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Single Browning M3 anti-aircraft gun with classic spade grips - .50 BMG.
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A Vietnamese boat gunner opens up with a dual Browning M3 .50 caliber.
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Another shot of the Dual M3s.

M16A1

Some Vietnamese troops guarding the boat and docks are seen armed with M16A1 rifles.

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M16A1 - 5.56x45mm.
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A Vietnamese soldier is seen armed with an M16A1 rifle while guarding the boat.
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Vietnamese soldiers on the gunboat bow with M16A1s.
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A Vietnames pirate tries to fire his M16A1 at Rambo but ends up like the man next to him.

M16A1 w/ A2 handguards

A Vietnamese soldier can be seen with an M16A1 fitted with A2 handguards on the boat docks.

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M16A1 w/ A2 handguards - 5.56x45mm.
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A Vietnamese soldier armed with an M16A1 w/ A2 handguards.

MGC M16 Replica

Next to the RPG-7 stored in the boat is an MGC M16 replica rifle.

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MGC M16 replia rifle.
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An MGC M16 replica seen next to the RPG-7 in the boat compartment.

GE M134 Mini-Gun

Seen mounted on the left side of the fake Hind D is a GE M134 Mini-Gun which is electrically fired by Rambo at the controls and is then manned by one of the POWs who managed to kill a Russian chopper door gunner with it.

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General Electrics M134 Mini-Gun - 7.62x51mm NATO.
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Rambo electronically fires the Mini-Gun over the Vietnamese camp.
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Another shot of the Mini-Gun.
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A POW fires the Mini-Gun at the Russian chopper.
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Another shot of the POW firing at the Russian chopper.

Yugoslavian M57

Seen as the sidearms of all the Vietnamese soldiers is the Yugoslavian M57, the Yugo copy of the Russian Tokarev TT-33, which was in short supply at the time. The Chinese Norinco Type 54 would be more accurate for them to use for the film, which would be noted by a frame mounted safety switch (which these all lack).

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Yugoslavian M57 - 7.62x25mm.
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A Vietnamese soldier points his Yugo M57 at Co Bao.
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Cpt. Vihn with his M57 drawn.
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A Vietnamese pirate fires his M57 at Rambo, eyes closed.
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A Vietnamese soldier fires his M57 at Co Bao with a terrible stance.
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Cpt. Vihn firing his M57 at Rambo.
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Cpt. Vihn firing his M57 at Rambo.

M67 "Baseball" grenade

When escaping the Vietnamese camp, Rambo grabs a bag of M67 "Baseball" Grenades and uses them against the soldiers.

M67 Baseball Grenade.
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M67 Grenades ready for Rambo to use. They are clearly inert and have their drilled bottoms plugged.

SIG-Sauer P226

The door gunner pulls out a SIG-Sauer P226 pistol and holds it to Colonel Trautman (Richard Crenna) when he tries to stop the chopper from leaving Rambo. It is noted a P226 by its double stack creases on the frame. The P226 was a brand-new pistol on the American firearms market in 1984-85, when the film was made, so it is likely that Rambo: First Blood Part 2 is the very first movie to feature this gun (it was previously stated on IMFDB's RoboCop page that RoboCop was likely the first movie to feature a P226).

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SIG-Sauer P226 - 9mm.
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The door gunner points his P226 at Trautman.
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The door gunner with his P226 fixed on Trautman.

M29 81mm Mortar

When Rambo, Co Bao, and the POW run throught the rice paddy field, Vietnamese soldiers drop M29 81mm Mortars across the field at them but don't score a hit.

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Vietnamese soldiers fire M29 81mm Mortars.

M1911A1

One of the Vietnamese pirates on the gun boat has an M1911A1 pistol in his holster and puts his hand on it when Rambo and Co Bao enter the boat.

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Colt M1911A1 - .45 ACP.
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A Vietnamese pirate with an M1911A1 in his holster.
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A Pirate sneaks onto the ship via the roof with his M1911A1 in hand before being gunned down by Co Bao's AKM.

Trivia Specials

  • The Soviet uniforms are US type 'Duck Hunter' fatigues dyed blue to look Russian.
  • The "Mil-24" is an Aerospatiale Puma from the movie Red Dawn, but modified again to look like a later variant.